I wouldn't include Google there. I still assume the vast majority of their revenue comes from ads but that's really where the similarities end - putting them along the likes of Facebook is disingenuous. On the ads themselves - they've gone out of their way to make the ads unobtrusive and as "user friendly" as possible. They also have things like a "Futurist department" where people do nothing but work on ideas that aren't marketable but could become the future in a decade - they even have Ray Kurzweil working for them now. Speaking of working for them, they are now one of, if not the primary, destination for much of the top talent in modern computer science. The informal motto at Google is don't be evil. They've had some slip ups, but expecting complete homogeneity from a company of their size is now a bit silly. By and large they've shown themselves to live up to that and to put the consumer first.
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Zuckerburg's proposition as recalled by oculus CEO
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I wouldn't include Google there. I still assume the vast majority of their revenue comes from ads but that's really where the similarities end - putting them along the likes of Facebook is disingenuous. On the ads themselves - they've gone out of their way to make the ads unobtrusive and as "user friendly" as possible. They also have things like a "Futurist department" where people do nothing but work on ideas that aren't marketable but could become the future in a decade - they even have Ray Kurzweil working for them now. Speaking of working for them, they are now one of, if not the primary, destination for much of the top talent in modern computer science. The informal motto at Google is don't be evil. They've had some slip ups, but expecting complete homogeneity from a company of their size is now a bit silly. By and large they've shown themselves to live up to that and to put the consumer first.
Mushroomer25
Member
Facebook has been incredibly hands-off in their management of every past acquisition. There's no reason to assume they'll be different with Oculus. They are not EA. They aren't in the business of milking reputations.
Sickboy007
Member
Here's how it went down:
"You don't even know what the thing is yet. How big it can get, how far it can go. This is no time to take your chips down. A million dollars isn't cool, you know what's cool?
Two billion dollars."
"You don't even know what the thing is yet. How big it can get, how far it can go. This is no time to take your chips down. A million dollars isn't cool, you know what's cool?
Two billion dollars."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Facebook
Start researching some of Facebook's acquisitions. It's not pretty.
The exceptions are the cases they said would be exceptions. Clearly they haven't been shy about telling people when they plan to dissolve companies and take the people, but they aren't saying that now.
mugurumakensei
Member
You should be really looking into what those companies were doing. Almost all of those companies' products can be seen in the current version of Facebook. That is, they were talent acquisitions to improve Facebook. Those ideas didn't stop being developed. Those people also were not let go.
Instagram, WhatsApp, and OculusVR, on the other hand, are intended for branching into new markets.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
Google also has 9x the number of employees as Facebook. They're different type of companies. Facebook takes privacy very seriously. I think everyone should put this into perspective: outside of the web, marketing data is absolutely ridiculous in how far it goes. There really is like a data profile about you at lots of different big data marketing companies and they most certainly do sell it. But nobody is bitching about that; they're yelling about Facebook, of all things, where FB is like super careful about not giving any info away or tying it to anyone's identity. Meanwhile you just signed up for a credit card that straight up sells your name, address, and up-to-date purchasing history to literally anyone that wants to buy it. There was a brief bug years ago where FB accidentally was putting the user ID in some kind of ad callback ping and it was like a total disaster to everyone that worked at FB. It was barely even reported on but FB did like an all-out apology and was really embarrassed by it.
Ploid 3.0
Member
You should be paranoid to do that even without facebook. I imagine if such adult content is brought to those things, that many people will be caught doing crazy stuff while they're in their world. Lost sight, hearing usually, and you're too busy feeling other stuff to feel the footsteps and air of your wife as she packs your/her bags around you, and take a video of it for shaming. You'd have to have a vault, double check that there's no easy way for fire to start, and make sure windows are covered. Youtube vids of people in their VR drug state will probably be common. A new thing, VR voyeur category on porn sites.
That is changing the goal posts. In "acquihires" the people other than the handful targeted do end up fired by the way. In any case a lengthy history of "liquidating", to use a friendly euphemism, companies for any reason is quite far from "[Facebook being] incredibly hands-off in their management of every past acquisition" as stated in the post I was responding to. Facebook's history is certainly not something you want to appeal to for suggesting this isn't such a bad thing.
What companies did they "liquidate" that they said would remain pretty much as they were after the acquisition?
Again I think a simple link is the best response as there's not really any room for subjectivity here and it's pointless for me to source and cite a hundred issues when everything is already cleanly laid out and well sourced here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook
polyh3dron
Banned
Sure Zuccurburg, maybe for the first year or 2.
i challenge you all to try mangling the spelling of his name worse than I did while keeping it phonetically accurate. GO!
Well, I'm single so all I have to do is lock the door. A lesson I learned when I still lived with my parents
