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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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I've updated my roster with the new character reveals!
Totally didn't expect Greninja. I figured Mega Evolutions would be enough X and Y representation... I'm still kinda sour about Pokémon Trainer being cut, and Charizard and Greninja by themselves still feels odd to me (I view starter Pokémon as a set, as they were portrayed in Brawl under Pokémon Trainer), but I'm warming up to it.
With Sheik's reveal as a separate character, I removed Impa. Also, I added Chrom and a Rhythm Heaven character to be in line with the recent rumor. If it really is from the same source that leaked Villager, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man, then I think it's believable. Time will tell, I suppose. They got Greninja right, after all. Though Greninja wasn't specified, since they only said "Pokémon from Pokémon X and Y," and while that sounds fake, I can imagine someone with inside information who may not be very familiar with Pokémon saying that if he doesn't have access to the official character names (remember, the same source called Villager "Animal Crossing Guy" prior to E3).
Yo!
We have our fire and water starters as stand alone characters. I think we'll get our grass starter as well. Glorious Chesnaught is sadly out as Chespin is a Pokeball so I think we'll get Sceptile since he's the only other bipedal grass starter.
I had it as that on my site, but a load of people e-mailed me saying it's not confirmed. Which technically is true
Sure he is. The current Donkey Kong is the son of the Donkey Kong from Donkey Kong. They are different characters with different experiences.
The Ridley in Other M is the same Ridley from the previous games reconstituted from his remaining cells, which is an ability he has. He is the same (person).
That's why I said "in the sense you are using the word". Ridley can rebuild himself. The scientists just helped the process. He has genetic memory or some shit and thus is essentially the same character.
Lucario does maximum aura damage when in his Mega Evolution. It's not a final Smash.
theprodigy
Member
I await the meltdowns.
Wait, I thought the current Donkey Kong was the Donkey Kong from Donkey Kong's grandson, which would make him the son of Donkey Kong Jr. who rescued the Donkey Kong from Donkey Kong.
This was actually retconned by Nintendo, but most fans disregard said retcon because the original explanation is funnier and more consistent.
He did not regenerate. He was cloned using the same method as all the other monsters in that game. Do you think Metroids, Geemers, and Sidehoppers all regenerate like Ridley can?
It's also hilarious you're using the manga as evidence because A. Ridley wasn't near as badly damaged in the manga, and B. Other M contradicts the manga multiple times.
Save 'N Quit
Banned
Absolutely not.
You don't take out the most recognizable character and the one people usually associate Fire Emblem with, for a lord from the newest game.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I still think that we are getting Red in Charizard's Final Smash.
Smashboard and Gamefaqs wouldn't be pretty sights after Ridley got disconfirmed. I strongly believe that those two boards had a strong fanbases for Ridley.
Poltergust
Member
I'm almost positive that Donkey Kong Jr. is the Donkey Kong we all know and love today.
Come on, it was pretty damn obvious it was Greninja from the minute you saw him charging the shuriken. I recognized him immediately and I haven't even played Pokemon X/Y.
Mr. Smiley
Member
Scooter155
Member
Yeah, that's how it seemed to me too.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Interesting Mario character and interesting character must have 2 different meanings.
Well the handsigns came first. And the "beam" made water noises while it was formed.
Then in the second shot of Greninja you clearly see the Shuriken form of the attack being formed, as well as more visual indication of this actually being a water attack.
IMO pretty obvious from the beginning that this was NOT Mewtwo
We all know Alfonzo is going to replace him when he's fighting.
Scooter155
Member
I thought this too, but I don't know why.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Want to avatar bet?
Other M also relies on the manga to explain why Samus has PTSD. The manga isn't perfect but parts of it are intended to be canon. It's a mess but it is what it is.
It's clear that Ridley is not just a clone in Other M since he obviously remembers Samus and goes after her. I know they cloned the other monsters, but unlike the other monsters Ridley retained his self which is what's important in this discussion. If current Cranky had his mind implanted into current DK's body then DK DK and DKC DK would be the same character.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Which one?
I feel like there hasn't been a lot of discussion on the customizeable movesets. Seems like a huge deal to me. Remember stuff like everyone hating link's charge spin attack nerf? What if you had various options for how it works andhoew much damage it does? Sounds like a game changer.
Beelzebufo
Banned
... doing maximum aura damage is exactly what you'd expect a transformation final smash for Lucario to do.
They also show the two mega evos alongside Greninja's final smash.
It's going to be very cool, for sure. Just need more details to really delve into it, I think.
And it very well could be, but until we have more of a solid idea on it we're just left to rampant speculation.
...Not like that would be unusual for SmashGAF, but eh.
Scooter155
Member
But you can get the same effect by just taking a lot of damage, right? So what if Lucario's already taken enough damage to be dealing maximum aura damage, and then he gets a Smash Ball, you're saying his Final Smash in that case would just be... to continue doing maximum damage?
Sounds wrong to me.
Can we talk about how good ZSS looks in this game? God damn.
I'm still wondering about Ridley. I feel as if the part of me thinking he may still be a playable character is constructed out of pure denial.
Hubba hubba.
This is fan-fiction. There is nothing in the games or manga that indicate Ridley has genetic memory.
Except he doesn't; he attacks the squad first as a juvenile and he attacks both Samus and Anthony as an adult. In both encounters he runs away at the first sign of injury like any scared animal. Do you think every enemy in the game has a personal vendetta for Samus because they all attack her?
theprodigy
Member
no, Lucario's Final Smash is the mega evolution, that way regardless of your actual % you have max aura
Save 'N Quit
Banned
Do you seriously want to argue about lightning? Jesus it was a joke.
SuperAngelo64
Banned
I can't wait until Nintendo comes out and crushes this one into the ground like the "Mario and Luigi's last names are 'Mario'" conjecture.
The current Donkey Kong is is the grandson of the original Donkey Kong from the 1981 game.
Cranky Kong is the original 1981 Donkey Kong.
DK Jr. is the current Donkey Kong's father.
Diddy has no relation to current DKC, he is his sidekick and "wannabe nephew." Dixie is Diddy's girlfriend.
From Wikipedia (which is so reliable):
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Cranky Kong is the original 1981 Donkey Kong.
DK Jr. is the current Donkey Kong's father.
Diddy has no relation to current DKC, he is his sidekick and "wannabe nephew." Dixie is Diddy's girlfriend.
From Wikipedia (which is so reliable):
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PadWarrior
Member
Well I caved, got Pokemon Y, Now to get me a Greninja.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
*removes glasses*
Actually, DK Jr is modern day DK's father, and Original (Cranky) DK's son.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Red appearing in the final smash
Isaac may still appear, and when he does, he'll be a playable character
Scooter155
Member
You done goofed.
Let's talk about Pikmin & Olimar.
3 Pikmin is a welcome change and it allows for easier management. And making the Pikmin come in a certain order is a cherry on top. They haven't shown if you can get more of the same type Pikmin right? I wonder if you can. None of the POTDs have that.
The Flying Pikmin replacing Olimar's old recovery is a very good idea, but with the fact that if you have Pikmin with you and it makes you heavier means you are going to probably throw all Pikmin you have on yourself before you use the Up Special. That would mean once you get back on the platform, you're kinda helpless, so I wonder if they improved Olimar's Pikmin-less game.
And it seems like there are no tether recoveries as the main recovery method. I wonder if it is removed all together.
And Olimar got some new jabs:
Unrelated, but hilarious:
I wonder if the footage for the direct is what was used for the POTDs. Some of it matches with the POTDs.
3 Pikmin is a welcome change and it allows for easier management. And making the Pikmin come in a certain order is a cherry on top. They haven't shown if you can get more of the same type Pikmin right? I wonder if you can. None of the POTDs have that.
The Flying Pikmin replacing Olimar's old recovery is a very good idea, but with the fact that if you have Pikmin with you and it makes you heavier means you are going to probably throw all Pikmin you have on yourself before you use the Up Special. That would mean once you get back on the platform, you're kinda helpless, so I wonder if they improved Olimar's Pikmin-less game.
And it seems like there are no tether recoveries as the main recovery method. I wonder if it is removed all together.
And Olimar got some new jabs:
Unrelated, but hilarious:
I wonder if the footage for the direct is what was used for the POTDs. Some of it matches with the POTDs.
Just saw this response. I have since done that. You know where to look
Great work and everything is in the right place.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Besides, he clearly outlined what were final smashes
Only exception could be Greninja's and Charizard's MEvo, as it was supposed to be a "before you leave" moment
What I'm gonna figure is that the Smash Ball will heal Lucario fully (or something) and give him max aura damage.
Beelzebufo
Banned
But then you have to take a lot of damage. The advantage to the final smash is that you get a maximum aura boost without getting to ridiculous percentages. There's presumably other advantages as well, but there doesn't have to be.
If the mega form activates when Lucario takes a lot of damage, it's purely a visual upgrade, which is kinda pointless, and is obviously activated differently from Charizard.
If the mega form activates in some other way, there's no reason not to just do that from the start, making the aura pointless.
Final Smash is the only way that works without making the aura mechanic completely pointless, has the same form of activation for both Lucario and Charizard, and matches up with the reveal at the end of the trailer with Greninja's final smash. It also matches up with X and Y where you need to use an item.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Eh, I'm not sure but it's my gut telling me that it will happens. They have no problem to do 4 other megaman models for final smash; and three Nook for Villager's final smash.