Giving the WiiU version legs over the 3DS will depend on a number of unanswered questions, such as "What modes and features will be WiiU exclusive," and "How will connecting the 3DS and WiiU versions benefit the player or enhance the experience." I'm sure the WiiU will have exclusive features, much like how the 3DS version has Smash Run. It's just a matter of what they are, and they probably won't delve into that until E3 at the earliest.
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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 6: Final Destination confirmed for not fun
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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I added Snake back to my roster, and I also included "Duck Hunt" (the dog and ducks). Duck Hunt is probably the most iconic retro game without any known representation, so why not?
I also arranged the series by original developer; the EAD characters are together, the R&D1/SPD characters are together, and so on. There's also a bad guy column with Bowser, Ganondorf, Wolf, Dedede, and Mewtwo.
Scooter155
Member
What does this mean?...
ShockingAlberto
Member
The setup right now is, if you want a version with better graphics, pay an extra $60. It's not just wait six months. It's not just remove all the mystery of who is in the game and ride those reveals to a hyped release. They took a hard sell and made it even harder.
I don't really see the logic in Smash Bros. not moving Wii U units in the event that it was the first, or temporarily only, version. It seems like you're just saying "No it won't" in response to my "It probably would," which I don't think will have much of a resolution.
LurkerPrime
Member
Megaman looks so happy in those heels. It's almost unsettling.
Hrm. Actually, they all look great - very expressive. Fantastic art.
Hrm. Actually, they all look great - very expressive. Fantastic art.
Princess_Eevee9
Neo Member
Lucario did I believe?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That's what I'm considering - Ghirahim (or maybe Demise) certainly is making more sense to me after Rosalina and Greninja's inclusion. It shows Sakurai is willing to add more recent and less major characters on the basis that they offer interesting gameplay - and I think Ghirahim would offer that pretty well. The "trophy theory" adds fuel to that possibility... lots of potential Zelda newcomers but no clear choice.
Vermillion
Banned
First point is true, but as for the second, it takes a lot away from the Wii U release for the non-hardcore crowd. I mean, granted, it did that when two versions were to be released in the first place, but this exacerbates that problem.
Do you think that as many people will go for the Wii U version as they would have if it came out with the 3DS version? Because I'm inclined to completely disagree, there.
Subtervotion
Member
I really hope Ike is back. Hes the only one left I need. (or his moveset on a different player)
Well, rather than questioning the wisdom of Nintendo's timing here (I have to admit I share Shocking's concern), I'm curious what you guys think Nintendo can do to make the WiiU version appealing six months after we know all of the characters, etc. I mean, what's done is done -- the 3DS version this summer, WiiU this winter. So what can Nintendo do to make the WiiU version a compelling value proposition?
TrAcEr_x90
Member
Wasn't there a comparison of all the new character models vs the wii version?
Scooter155
Member
I agree with him, I don't think releasing the 3DS first will result in fewer Wii U sales...
Delaying the 3DS version artificially just to make sure the Wii U version comes out first just seems bad for everyone.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
I'm not really suggesting that putting the Wii U first wouldn't move units. I'm just thinking about the 3DS version at the same time. I think if we're talking about which version would have its potential sales damaged more by coming out after the other one, it's clearly the 3DS one.
I don't really think the 3DS one being first will hurt the Wii U one's sales all that much for a couple reasons. One being that I expect a compelling yet currently indeterminate 3DS->Wii U transfer system that strongly encourages upgrades. Two being that I expect a lot of new modes/content beyond just "different stages." They know that these versions are going to compete, that there has to be a reason for someone to buy one after the other one, I think they're developing them with that in mind. Those are largely speculative reasons on my part, but based in plenty of things that have been said over the months. And three being that I really just don't see much of the core SSB fanbase buying a 3DS game and being satisfied. You'll have one-offs sure but it's really just the intro game, any way you look at it.
Exclusive game modes. 3DS has Smash Run, so Wii U needs something as well.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
A type of ability in jojo's bizarre adventure, look it up
(I finally also caught up with smashgaf)
The downside to Duck Hunt Dog is in this day and age of increased graphical fidelity, the ducks are a bit too identifiable to feel good about, well, killing them. I mean it's cute and innocuous enough when they're abstract pixel clusters flying across the screen. Now it'd just be off-putting. (Granted, I am a huge animal lover.)
I do like the idea of the duck being "zapped" by the Zapper, which the dog could incorporate as a weapon shooting pixels instead of bullets. Thus the duck is not killed -- more like KO'd -- and of course the duck could incorporate the (living, consenting) duck as a recovery move, a physical attack (swing the duck!), and so on.
But yeah, the "hunting ducks" part is the hurdle that's probably too high to clear for this character.
I do like the idea of the duck being "zapped" by the Zapper, which the dog could incorporate as a weapon shooting pixels instead of bullets. Thus the duck is not killed -- more like KO'd -- and of course the duck could incorporate the (living, consenting) duck as a recovery move, a physical attack (swing the duck!), and so on.
But yeah, the "hunting ducks" part is the hurdle that's probably too high to clear for this character.
Scooter155
Member
Release the Wii U version.
Haha, seriously, I'm already sold on both and I personally don't see either game negating the other.
Hyperactivity
Banned
you trying to chase Batty in avatar bet wins?
Nope. Trying to get as many wins as possible while maintaining a w/l ration of infinity
ShockingAlberto
Member
I think the 3DS version is coming out when it does out of short-term concerns. Iwata needs to save the 3DS in Japan (where the Wii U couldn't buoy, anyway, and has no competition from any other home console) and needs to get profitability numbers up before the end of the third quarter. That's when investors are going to be pissed about losses and he's going to need something to point to that's successful.
It's absolutely a move that prioritizes the 3DS over the Wii U because the Wii U producing decent numbers in the winter would be too late.
It's absolutely a move that prioritizes the 3DS over the Wii U because the Wii U producing decent numbers in the winter would be too late.
voltronbadA
Member
My baby girl - Mara Jade was born yesterday!
So many pages for me to catch up on! (LOL)
I am excited but also heart broken about those release dates. I don't own a 3DS but thinking about picking one up for smash on the summer (would a 2DS be a bad option?) but man that SUCKS that the Wii U won't be out Til winter!
All of the characters revealed look amazing! Greninja looks beast and Sheik as a stand alone makes me super happy! Hope she got re-buffed to melee or similar levels! I like ZSS revamp, she looks pretty awesome as well.
Man all those new screenshots and new items! Bees - hilarious! Tanooki Leaf - so sweet! Blue Shell - now that's just mean!
Anyway, just wants to pop my head in an comment on all the big news from yesterday! Probably won't see me around for a bit (gotta get used to this being a dad thing )
So many pages for me to catch up on! (LOL)
I am excited but also heart broken about those release dates. I don't own a 3DS but thinking about picking one up for smash on the summer (would a 2DS be a bad option?) but man that SUCKS that the Wii U won't be out Til winter!
All of the characters revealed look amazing! Greninja looks beast and Sheik as a stand alone makes me super happy! Hope she got re-buffed to melee or similar levels! I like ZSS revamp, she looks pretty awesome as well.
Man all those new screenshots and new items! Bees - hilarious! Tanooki Leaf - so sweet! Blue Shell - now that's just mean!
Anyway, just wants to pop my head in an comment on all the big news from yesterday! Probably won't see me around for a bit (gotta get used to this being a dad thing
)theprodigy
Member
LinkToTheFuture
Member
I know I am. I just got my Wii U last week to start getting used to the pro controller & game pad. Even though I'm using a gamecube controller adapter for smash bros. U. I will have mario kart 8 to help dampen the wait for 3ds smash which will dampen the wait for smash bros U.
REALLY like this theory honestly. I was thinking demise or him but since fi was shown as well as fake palutena... but then what would the opposite of the fire emblem girl or that metroid monster be?
You know how the 3DS game takes inspiration from that Kirbys Air Ride mode? I want the Wii U version to take inspiration from Light vs. Dark in Kid Icarus: Uprising. Huge maps. 4 vs 4 play.
Dude, you missed a Smash Direct for the birth of your daughter? smh dude
Congrats!!
*Gasp* CONGRATULATIONS!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What is your record?
Hyperactivity
Banned
My baby girl - Mara Jade was born yesterday!
So many pages for me to catch up on! (LOL)
I am excited but also heart broken about those release dates. I don't own a 3DS but thinking about picking one up for smash on the summer (would a 2DS be a bad option?) but man that SUCKS that the Wii U won't be out Til winter!
All of the characters revealed look amazing! Greninja looks beast and Sheik as a stand alone makes me super happy! Hope she got re-buffed to melee or similar levels! I like ZSS revamp, she looks pretty awesome as well.
Man all those new screenshots and new items! Bees - hilarious! Tanooki Leaf - so sweet! Blue Shell - now that's just mean!
Anyway, just wants to pop my head in an comment on all the big news from yesterday! Probably won't see me around for a bit (gotta get used to this being a dad thing
Congrats man
3-0
Zeer0id
WiiRevolution1
Batty
ShockingAlberto
Member
You're making a lot of suppositonal arguments for why the Wii U one might be better, but at the end of the day, Nintendo is asking people to pay more for an experience that's more or less equal to what they've had for six months. It's not like the two are equally priced or Nintendo has some sort of cross-buy thing going here. People will spent $40 on Smash Bros. and then Nintendo is going to act totally baffled why they're not paying another $60.
Will there be people who do it? Sure. Will there be 12 million people who do it? Certainly not. So we might be looking at the worst-selling Smash game since 64 that's also cross-platform. That's surely something to brag about.
Scooter155
Member
My baby girl - Mara Jade was born yesterday!
So many pages for me to catch up on! (LOL)
I am excited but also heart broken about those release dates. I don't own a 3DS but thinking about picking one up for smash on the summer (would a 2DS be a bad option?) but man that SUCKS that the Wii U won't be out Til winter!
All of the characters revealed look amazing! Greninja looks beast and Sheik as a stand alone makes me super happy! Hope she got re-buffed to melee or similar levels! I like ZSS revamp, she looks pretty awesome as well.
Man all those new screenshots and new items! Bees - hilarious! Tanooki Leaf - so sweet! Blue Shell - now that's just mean!
Anyway, just wants to pop my head in an comment on all the big news from yesterday! Probably won't see me around for a bit (gotta get used to this being a dad thing
You named your daughter Mara Jade? You have a very understanding wife. Just kidding, congratulations! Is this your first? "Changes everything" is the biggest understatement in history... Just fyi.
Shadow Hog
Member
Gonna miss the Monado. :<
I hope for my sake that you're right.
No, not your sake. Betting your avatar is none of my business. I just want a Xenoblade rep.
One of the directions should say "Reyn" :V
Why would Sonic need an anti- character when he's already only mid-tier at best?Little Mac seems like "Anti-Sonic". There was a clip where he even punched Sonic out of his Rolling attacks.
And I just skimmed through all of them. Took me several hours. Wasn't really worth it.
My baby girl - Mara Jade was born yesterday!
So many pages for me to catch up on! (LOL)
I am excited but also heart broken about those release dates. I don't own a 3DS but thinking about picking one up for smash on the summer (would a 2DS be a bad option?) but man that SUCKS that the Wii U won't be out Til winter!
All of the characters revealed look amazing! Greninja looks beast and Sheik as a stand alone makes me super happy! Hope she got re-buffed to melee or similar levels! I like ZSS revamp, she looks pretty awesome as well.
Man all those new screenshots and new items! Bees - hilarious! Tanooki Leaf - so sweet! Blue Shell - now that's just mean!
Anyway, just wants to pop my head in an comment on all the big news from yesterday! Probably won't see me around for a bit (gotta get used to this being a dad thing
Congratulations!
Lord Azrael
Member
Um, yes? The 3DS version is going to sell a shit ton regardless of when it releases. They should do everything in their ability to make sure the Wii U version sells as much as possible. As is, the 3DS version will cannibalize Wii U version sales.
Congrats man
The Wii U version is compelling in presentation/graphics, Controls, more unified local multiplayer. (Possibly better online?), Different(arguably better) Stages,More music, No smash run but id be shocked if it didn't have a melee style adventure and classic mode along with events/bosses.
Honestly I think people getting their hands on the 3ds version will only increase interest in the Wii U version which should essential end up being the definitive version of the game.
Plus we still don't know about the WiiU/3ds connectivity.
Honestly I think people getting their hands on the 3ds version will only increase interest in the Wii U version which should essential end up being the definitive version of the game.
Plus we still don't know about the WiiU/3ds connectivity.
Scooter155
Member
Obviously with the posts that have come in the last few minutes, you're not the only one who thinks so. I still don't get it :\ I'd really like to see a poll : "Are you going to skip the Wii U version of Smash Bros and only get the 3DS one instead?"
I'm getting both. I bet I'm not alone.
Delaying the 3DS copy when it's ready right now is just bad business. They're different games. I don't think the 3DS version will cannibalize Wii U sales as bad as the Wii U version would cannibalize 3DS sales if they released in reverse order.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I admit my argument is moot if the Wii U version is at a budget price of $40 or below.
But I'll bet a copy of the game it's not going to be.
But I'll bet a copy of the game it's not going to be.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
congrats!My baby girl - Mara Jade was born yesterday!
So many pages for me to catch up on! (LOL)
I am excited but also heart broken about those release dates. I don't own a 3DS but thinking about picking one up for smash on the summer (would a 2DS be a bad option?) but man that SUCKS that the Wii U won't be out Til winter!
All of the characters revealed look amazing! Greninja looks beast and Sheik as a stand alone makes me super happy! Hope she got re-buffed to melee or similar levels! I like ZSS revamp, she looks pretty awesome as well.
Man all those new screenshots and new items! Bees - hilarious! Tanooki Leaf - so sweet! Blue Shell - now that's just mean!
Anyway, just wants to pop my head in an comment on all the big news from yesterday! Probably won't see me around for a bit (gotta get used to this being a dad thing
Megalosaro
Banned
An SNES Pilotwings level?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48280274@N02/13729446703/in/set-72157643678092364
Any chance of this being a stage theme?
http://youtu.be/mrC2OZ8EBco
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48280274@N02/13729446703/in/set-72157643678092364
Any chance of this being a stage theme?
http://youtu.be/mrC2OZ8EBco
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
My baby girl - Mara Jade was born yesterday!
So many pages for me to catch up on! (LOL)
I am excited but also heart broken about those release dates. I don't own a 3DS but thinking about picking one up for smash on the summer (would a 2DS be a bad option?) but man that SUCKS that the Wii U won't be out Til winter!
All of the characters revealed look amazing! Greninja looks beast and Sheik as a stand alone makes me super happy! Hope she got re-buffed to melee or similar levels! I like ZSS revamp, she looks pretty awesome as well.
Man all those new screenshots and new items! Bees - hilarious! Tanooki Leaf - so sweet! Blue Shell - now that's just mean!
Anyway, just wants to pop my head in an comment on all the big news from yesterday! Probably won't see me around for a bit (gotta get used to this being a dad thing
Congratulation! Good luck with first month since it's hardest month but after that it should be snap.
Your life when your kids growing up =
BUT just have a lot of patience with kids then you should be fine!
I really hope that you get what I meant with lobster.
Look like you are my rival now.
ShockingAlberto
Member
GAFers are not representatives of even regular gaming audiences. Most of the board thinks the 3DS is a terrible POS and the Vita is the best thing since sliced bread, but the market doesn't bear that out.
Everyone in this thread buying both versions would be about 0.008333333333333333% of Brawl or Melee's 12 million individual sales.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Look like you are my rival now.
What's your record?
Either way, one of us is going to lose given our avatar bet
TrAcEr_x90
Member
I made one with the characters revealed in the Direct.
Awesome! thanks!
Nintendo always pushes more for texturing/advanced shaders than polycounts it seems. This game and mk8 are showing they have this down!
There's a record for this stuff?
Wow, might as well go all in with this "Palutena will not be playable" bet.
PadWarrior
Member
Congrats Voltron, fatherhood is an awesome feeling.
My baby girl - Mara Jade was born yesterday!
So many pages for me to catch up on! (LOL)
I am excited but also heart broken about those release dates. I don't own a 3DS but thinking about picking one up for smash on the summer (would a 2DS be a bad option?) but man that SUCKS that the Wii U won't be out Til winter!
All of the characters revealed look amazing! Greninja looks beast and Sheik as a stand alone makes me super happy! Hope she got re-buffed to melee or similar levels! I like ZSS revamp, she looks pretty awesome as well.
Man all those new screenshots and new items! Bees - hilarious! Tanooki Leaf - so sweet! Blue Shell - now that's just mean!
Anyway, just wants to pop my head in an comment on all the big news from yesterday! Probably won't see me around for a bit (gotta get used to this being a dad thing
Congrats man!!