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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 8: Put mii in, coach
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A Link to the Past
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That'd be a great use of the custom movesets. I'd love it. FUCK FLUDD
SenorArdilla
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Dr. Mario Clocks In!
The Great Gonzales
Member
It's only for local and online-with-friends play, right? It won't take long to figure out what tweaks your friends have made to their moves, so you'll get used to it. It's not like every random person you fight will have altered movesets.
It's not very different from having a ton of items. It's just an additional chaos element. Easily disabled, only usable local/with friends. If you don't like them, turn them off.
The only difference between it and items/stage hazards is that I imagine you can make some characters absolutely broken if you have the right combination, and it's no longer an element of chance. You, too, can give yourself a broken moveset, i'm sure. If you ever played brawl minus, you'll know that having everyone be overpowered is actually kinda fun.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Dr. Mario does his rounds!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I dunno but I could imagine that they would do one when we get close to 3DS or Wii U version's release date.
I'm remaining to hope that we would get good amount of informations at E3.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Personally, I'm expecting something megaton about Smash 4 on Wii U. Maybe we'll get an extra character or two that will be added to Smash 4 on 3DS as DLC?
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Dr. Mario gives you a taste of your own medicine!
Depends wholly on implementation. Is it a bunch of preset moves that you pick as part of a loadout? Do you actually decide on the properties of the moves? Will there be an easy way to save and load profiles?
Until that's all answered it's up in the air.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I think Lip (Panel de Pon) should be represented in this game somehow.
Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack is a really fun puzzle game that a lot of Smash fans seem to enjoy. She already has an item (Lip's Stick), but a character would be even better.
Or maybe a stage (although I don't know how it'd be implemented) just so we can get some arrangements for that soundtrack.
Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack is a really fun puzzle game that a lot of Smash fans seem to enjoy. She already has an item (Lip's Stick), but a character would be even better.
Or maybe a stage (although I don't know how it'd be implemented) just so we can get some arrangements for that soundtrack.
I'm sure that most tournaments won't use them, just like they don't use custom stages. I'm sure some of the more casual ones might.
The thing I want to know is... what if a character sucks REALLY bad, and actually changing ONE special into a custom special makes them viable. If the FGC agrees to it, can they approve of 'modified donkey kong', for example, as 'legal tournament donkey kong'?
BassForever
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I think Lip (Panel de Pon) should be represented in this game somehow.
Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack is a really fun puzzle game that a lot of Smash fans seem to enjoy. She already has an item (Lip's Stick), but a character would be even better.
Or maybe a stage (although I don't know how it'd be implemented) just so we can get some arrangements for that soundtrack.
The lip stick being confirmed as an item doomed her
The Great Gonzales
Member
I'll take anything that makes Luigi's fireballs useful for more than just detonating Blast Boxes. Make them faster, make them travel farther, do something with them.
Baron von Loathsome
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I think Lip (Panel de Pon) should be represented in this game somehow.
Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack is a really fun puzzle game that a lot of Smash fans seem to enjoy. She already has an item (Lip's Stick), but a character would be even better.
Or maybe a stage (although I don't know how it'd be implemented) just so we can get some arrangements for that soundtrack.
Tetris Attack was a good game. I'd be up for a Panel de Pon character and/or stage.
Maybe the stage could be called Lip's Puzzle League?
Troubled Bat
Member
DaBoss pls ;_;
Kor of Memory
Member
Dr. Mario is scheduled for Surgery.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That would be great if that happened.
Princess_Eevee9
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BassForever
Member
I'm still guessing that the wiiu's bonus mode will be boss battle mode where the game pad player can play as ridley, master hand, yellow devil so in that sense the wiiu will have "more playable characters" but only for a bonus mode
Baron von Loathsome
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Lots of people getting their copies in that game's OT, but I don't think I'll be as lucky.
Princess_Eevee9
Neo Member
I called my store but they're not being helpful. TnT Suppose I should hope I can too.
Ivan A Nguyen
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Really? I thought there was like, a for fun mode and a for glory mode, and that the glory mode was ranked. What does the glory mode do then?
I think Lip (Panel de Pon) should be represented in this game somehow.
Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack is a really fun puzzle game that a lot of Smash fans seem to enjoy. She already has an item (Lip's Stick), but a character would be even better.
Or maybe a stage (although I don't know how it'd be implemented) just so we can get some arrangements for that soundtrack.
Agreed. Tetris Attack is fantastic.
DisconnectD
Member
I wish i were an artist because I would totally draw that right now.
Edit: NVM, turns out i'm an artist.
LOL, now do Ike
PreyingShark
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For Fun is basically FFAs with default settings and no Final Destination. Only wins are recorded.
For Glory has the option for 1v1s, no items, FD only. Both wins and losses are recorded.
For Glory isn't the actual competitive ruleset due to the FD only thing, but from my experience FD Whores far outnumber the people who play with the actual competitive ruleset so that move makes a lot of sense.
So it's basically a casual mode and an FD Whore mode. No true competitive mode, but the FD Whore mode should still be a lot of fun once people start getting sorted by skill level.
OmegaSmash
Member
This really just makes me question the reasoning behind not making a room/lobby system with multiple customization options. The easiest and best thing they could've done, really.
The best thing he announced was that multiplayer with friends lets you basically do everything you can do when playing locally. Almost everyone who is serious about the game will set up their own stuff anyway. For fun and for glory are both modes for having fun, and no one will take them TOOOOOOOOOOO seriously.
Yeah, it's somewhat unfortunate that a lobby system hasn't been announced. It would be nice to fight against totally random opponents using your own terms. I think the main problem is that smash bros has TOO MANY options, so a lobby would either be a nightmare to set up (item/stage toggle. Custom moves. Time/Stock/Coin, etc) or have limited options. Either of which isn't perfect.
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Did we play the same game here? Dunban could barely wield the Monado; he lost use of his right arm after using it for one battle, remember? Furthermore, he was incapable of drawing at many of the Monado skills. Shulk had access to to several Monado Arts. Such as:
Monado Buster (Giant Beam Sword Slash), Monado Enchant (weapon buffing technique), Monado Shield (Self explanatory), Monado Speed (Self explanatory), Monado Purge (ranged attack), Monado Armor (defense buffing technique), Monado Cyclone (AoE attack) and Monado Eater (Strips away buffs + bleed effect)
He has all of that, in addition to his natural skillset.
Your argument that he has the lowest moveset potential is disingenuous and lacks substance. Why don't you back up your claims instead of spouting inaccuracies?
Yes it does, you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
Your irrational Shulk hate is blinding you to the truth.
I'd love for Xenoblade to get some representation; but a stage, music and assist trophy would be much better than a playable Shulk; who, while certainly viable, isn't particularly interesting, memorable or unique. The main strength of Xenoblade was its world, and that's what should be translated to a Smash appearance.
Too many posts to quote about the Gematsu leak. I'm with you who's thinking that Chorus Men will make or break that leak. Chrom and Palutena are safe guesses. Shulk's middle of the road but we do have Ness and Lucas in Smash after all.
The thing is, that was the only guess (or one of very few) for Wii Fit Trainer. Before she was announced a vast majority of people would only expect a stage or item as Wii Fit representation.
The thing is, that was the only guess (or one of very few) for Wii Fit Trainer. Before she was announced a vast majority of people would only expect a stage or item as Wii Fit representation.
Or he could have won the 'guessing jackpot.' I really hope E3 disconfirms him.
Random strangers means lowest common denominator. You want options play with friends (or people you know on the internet).
Edit: The Gematsu leak could be perfectly valid, but why do you all assume that if it's right those are the only newcomers? Guy probably saw part of a screen for a minute and leaked what he remembered. There could be 50 other characters he just didn't see. After all, he apparently didn't see Rosalina at all, or if he did, saw her in a context that made her seem like something other than a playable fighter.
The other option is to limit it to people with similar win/loss records in for glory lobbies, or win count in for fun lobbies, but that feeds into the 'exclusionary' style of gameplay that sakurai doesn't like. That's why global smash power is furthest from the bottom, not furthest from the top.
I honestly think that what they are doing is pretty good, simply because w/ friends lets you do everything you can do locally. The only thing that would make 'for glory' better would be the option to 'vote' on stages as well as being able to play on stage-hazard-less versions of stages (or at least 'battlefield' versions, also).
Ivan A Nguyen
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Do you think it'll be possible to run a GAF tourny with an online mode?
Hopefully you can actually play tourney mode online, but I'm sorta doubtful. It'll probably have to be coordinated offline.
Now I wonder if we can have spectators. Probably not
Who will moderate? We'll just have to take people's word for whether they lost or won?I'm still hoping for a 'platforms' option on the next page, that lets you pick a number of platforms for the FDified stages (as well as Stick and Team options). The fourth tab would be to pick your character, then it throws you into queue (stages could be random, since they're all FD anyway).
Now I wonder if we can have spectators. Probably not
That's what we did with the Brawl tourney. I forget who kept up with the brackets, but you just reported in the thread the outcome of your match. It's not a problem as long as no one is an ass about it.
Baron von Loathsome
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I think there would be more, but not very many. If those leaks turn out to be true, I expect two more newcomers on top of them and Rosalina, tops.
Ivan A Nguyen
Member
Hopefully you can actually play tourney mode online, but I'm sorta doubtful. It'll probably have to be coordinated offline.
Now I wonder if we can have spectators. Probably not
Maybe they'll have a screen shot option like in Animal Crossing.
If we keep it inside of GAF then I don't see any major trust issues. It just would have been great if there was a system in the game. Don't games like Street Fighter have tourny modes?
I'm hoping we get Youtube uploading. If so, it'd be trivial to upload the match for others to verify.Now I wonder if we can have spectators. Probably not
Because people took the RosalinaX "leak" as truth, so they tought we'd get no more than 48 characters. Though that leak is probably a fake.
Why would someone lie? That'd be kinda sad.Now I wonder if we can have spectators. Probably not
Hopefully you can actually play tourney mode online, but I'm sorta doubtful. It'll probably have to be coordinated offline.
Now I wonder if we can have spectators. Probably not
You can probably trust people's word on GAF.
If there's youtube uploading, that will do fine.
This is what I'm curious about as well.
Changed it up a bit but mostly agreed with you.
I think Lip (Panel de Pon) should be represented in this game somehow.
Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack is a really fun puzzle game that a lot of Smash fans seem to enjoy. She already has an item (Lip's Stick), but a character would be even better.
Or maybe a stage (although I don't know how it'd be implemented) just so we can get some arrangements for that soundtrack.
I love all you Takamaru and Lip supporters that keep popping up every now and again.
That said, I am totally down for Lip and I've made that stance clear a long time ago.
Beelzebufo
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I don't necessarily, but I don't want to get my hopes up. That's a lot of newcomers.
Anyway, new Mario Kart stage tonight, Mario Kart as a playable character tonight, or just a shot on Rainbow Road 3DS?
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
Which character, new or returning, do you guys think is the most well-designed in Smash 4? I guess you can use how well their smash design compares to other iterations of their character as a basis.
My top 3 would be:
Mega Man
Toon Link
Bowser
My top 3 would be:
Mega Man
Toon Link
Bowser
Revisiting DK
Dash Attack
We knew since the Smash Direct he had a Dash Attack. It is reminiscent of his DKC rolling attack.
The attack seems to go naturally with DK's running animation, but it is hard to judge from that clip.
In a video made by a user on SmashBoards, he pointed this out:
The thing to notice is DK falling off the edge, but does a roll in mid-air. That shouldn't be happening in normal circumstances. What he thought was that DK is able to use the dash attack off stage. This is something that Project M does as well.
It should be noted that almost no character can fall off the edge by using a Dash Attack in Brawl/Melee/64. The only character that could was Kirby in Melee.
This would be an interesting change if it is DK using a Dash Attack to go off stage.
For all we know it could be something to do with Smash Run and not necessarily normal gameplay, but it does seem to be a Dash Attack.
Interesting stuff going on here
I posted this towards the end of Thread 6 and it just caused confusion as to what's going on. There were some theories as to what was happening. The move's properties may have been changed. This could be a clip of a Smash Run battle.
Before determining what it is, let's go through the order of events. The old GIF missed out on some interesting things.
Order of what happens:
1. Mario uses his Neutral B (fire ball)
2. DK starts his Up Special
3. Fire ball hits DK and causes him to flinch (Note: DK's super armor for this move did not activate yet, so this flinch is normal)
4. DK's up special animation continues and actually uses the move (Note: This is not normal lol)
5. DK goes to the left and hits Mega Man multiple times while Mega Man DIs to the left and doesn't flinch at all. (Fox also grabs the Green Shell while using his Dash Attack)
6. Fox throws the Green Shell. Mega Man seems to stop DK's Up Special by shooting a pellet.
7. The Green Shell hits Mega Man, then DK, and then Mega Man again. Mega Man barely gets launched and has little hitstun while DK gets sent pretty far with more hitstun.
So with all of that said, there are some shenanigans going on here and all signs point to it being something to do with Smash Run. Mega Man probably has a high amount of Defense. There may be some stat explaining why DK still continued his Up Special animation despite being hit by a fire ball.
What does everyone else thing?
EDIT: lol top of the page.
Dash Attack
We knew since the Smash Direct he had a Dash Attack. It is reminiscent of his DKC rolling attack.
The attack seems to go naturally with DK's running animation, but it is hard to judge from that clip.
In a video made by a user on SmashBoards, he pointed this out:
The thing to notice is DK falling off the edge, but does a roll in mid-air. That shouldn't be happening in normal circumstances. What he thought was that DK is able to use the dash attack off stage. This is something that Project M does as well.
It should be noted that almost no character can fall off the edge by using a Dash Attack in Brawl/Melee/64. The only character that could was Kirby in Melee.
This would be an interesting change if it is DK using a Dash Attack to go off stage.
For all we know it could be something to do with Smash Run and not necessarily normal gameplay, but it does seem to be a Dash Attack.
Interesting stuff going on here
I posted this towards the end of Thread 6 and it just caused confusion as to what's going on. There were some theories as to what was happening. The move's properties may have been changed. This could be a clip of a Smash Run battle.
Before determining what it is, let's go through the order of events. The old GIF missed out on some interesting things.
Order of what happens:
1. Mario uses his Neutral B (fire ball)
2. DK starts his Up Special
3. Fire ball hits DK and causes him to flinch (Note: DK's super armor for this move did not activate yet, so this flinch is normal)
4. DK's up special animation continues and actually uses the move (Note: This is not normal lol)
5. DK goes to the left and hits Mega Man multiple times while Mega Man DIs to the left and doesn't flinch at all. (Fox also grabs the Green Shell while using his Dash Attack)
6. Fox throws the Green Shell. Mega Man seems to stop DK's Up Special by shooting a pellet.
7. The Green Shell hits Mega Man, then DK, and then Mega Man again. Mega Man barely gets launched and has little hitstun while DK gets sent pretty far with more hitstun.
So with all of that said, there are some shenanigans going on here and all signs point to it being something to do with Smash Run. Mega Man probably has a high amount of Defense. There may be some stat explaining why DK still continued his Up Special animation despite being hit by a fire ball.
What does everyone else thing?
EDIT: lol top of the page.