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mclem

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RubxQub said:
PoliGAF is full of Polling Porn™ today. I've been fucking beating it so hard that my cock turned republican.

Fragamemnon said:
hooooooly shit

SurveyUSA NC:

Obama 50
McCain 41

(unconfirmed from a post on 538, will get a link when I can)
= TrannySurprise?
 
lawblob said:
Anyone who thinks Palin would be a viable Presidential candidate in 2012 has been smoking too much Repubnick crack. Any Republican who thinks that woman will ever be President is so far gone, there is no helping them. Once the election is over, she will fade away. :lol

Uh. Did that ever stop them before? Che--W Bush? Dole? Bush Sr? Reagan?

I guess if by "viable" you mean able to win, but they have a long distinguished history of running mental midgets.
 
StoOgE said:
1) Obamas plan is a tax decrease overall as well as for the middle and lower class. It isnt as much of a tax cut as McCains, but it is still an overall cut.

2) McCain is proposing massive budget increases as well as massive tax cuts, which means crazy debt spending.

3) Laissez-faire capitalism = libertarian utopia = completely unregulated market, we dont have one of those. Your friend needs to not throw buzzwords around he doesn't understand.

Frag said:
Tell him Obama just wants to restore the taxation levels to those under Reagan in 1986. Ask him if Reagan was a socialist for having those kind of tax rates.

Much appreciated. It's like having a rebuttal device on tap.
 
BobTheFork said:
The people I don't get (many of whom I work with), are the black people who are voting for McCain because they don't want people to think they are only voting for Obama just because he's black.

According to all poll data those people represent a miniscule number of people.
 

Haunted

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Just visited hillaryis44. So they've basically turned their backs on Hillary and support Palin/McCain now, going against everything Clinton said after she conceded?


Wow, just wow.
 

Cheebs

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CharlieDigital said:
Hillary in the SCOTUS...they'll shit their pants.
Noooo NO. Too old. Obama needs to follow Bush's lead in the age of the appointments and put some young active liberals on the court (Obama will likely have 3 openings, NONE of them should be older than 55). Pack the court. Put people on there who'll be there in 20 years still.
 

Captain Pants

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Haunted said:
Just visited hillaryis44. So they've basically turned their backs on Hillary and support Palin/McCain now, going against everything Clinton said after she conceded?


Wow, just wow.

Wasn't it confirmed to be a Republican stealth troll website?
 

GhaleonEB

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Hootie said:
Noice! Special comment by Olbermann tonight on Palin's attacks on Obama. Should be epic.
Should be bloated, indignant and sputtering. I kind of like Olberman, but he's better at the off-handed dig and with sarcasm than righteous indignation. I can't take a guy who has a daily segment called "worst person in the world", complete with spooky organ music, seriously at all.
 

Zeliard

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StoOgE said:
The republicans are so completely fucked and I'm pretty sure they know it.

They know it. That's why they're resorting to bringing up Obama's past associations, and they've also started to emphasize his middle name again. So hilariously pathetic. They have absolutely nothing left on the table.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Should be bloated, indignant and sputtering. I kind of like Olberman, but he's better at the off-handed dig and with sarcasm than righteous indignation. I can't take a guy who has a daily segment called "worst person in the world", complete with spooky organ music, seriously at all.

We are truly brothers.
 

Barrett2

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Cheebs said:
Noooo NO. Too old. Obama needs to follow Bush's lead in the age of the appointments and put some young active liberals on the court (Obama will likely have 3 openings, NONE of them should be older than 55). Pack the court. Put people on there who'll be there in 20 years still.

Not only is Hillary too old, but she would make the SCOTUS too political. It would be a disastrous nomination of epic proportions. Obama should just nominate some boring Fed Judges in their early fifties that are slightly left-of-center. That would be ideal, IMO.
 
Ground rules for tomorrow night's debate:

Under the deal, the moderator may not ask followups or make comments. The person who asks the question will not be allowed a follow-up either, and his or her microphone will be turned off after the question is read. A camera shot will only be shown of the person asking -- not reacting.

While there will be director's chairs (with backs and foot rests), McCain and Obama will be allowed to stand -- but they can't roam past their "designated area" to be marked on the stage. McCain and Obama are not supposed to ask each other direct questions.

Tuned so that there's no 1992 moment, obviously. As town halls go, should make for a pretty meh debate.
 

Hootie

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GhaleonEB said:
Should be bloated, indignant and sputtering. I kind of like Olberman, but he's better at the off-handed dig and with sarcasm than righteous indignation. I can't take a guy who has a daily segment called "worst person in the world", complete with spooky organ music, seriously at all.

Well if it's anything like this masterpiece (no sarcasm):

I'm standing outside the XCEL ENERGY CENTER in St. Paul Minnesota Sarah Palin has just finished her speech to the Republican National Convention, accepting the party's nomination for vice president. If I hadn't quit my two-packs-a-day habit earlier this year, I'd be chain-smoking now. So the only thing left is to stand mute against the fit-for-a-cheap-dog-kennel crowd-control fencing you see everywhere at these idiotic conventions and gnaw on weird new feelings of shock and anarchist rage as one would a rawhide chew toy.
All around me, a million cops in their absurd post-9/11 space-combat get-ups stand guard as assholes in papier-mache puppet heads scramble around for one last moment of network face time before the coverage goes dark. Four-chinned delegates from places like Arkansas and Georgia are pouring joyously out the gates in search of bars where they can load up on Zombies and Scorpion Bowls and other "wild" drinks and extramaritally grope their turkey-necked female companions in bathroom stalls as part of the "unbelievable time" they will inevitably report to their pals back home. Only 21st-century Americans can pass through a metal detector six times in an hour and still think they're at a party.

The defining moment for me came shortly after Palin and her family stepped down from the stage to uproarious applause, looking happy enough to throw a whole library full of books into a sewer. In the crush to exit the stadium, a middle-aged woman wearing a cowboy hat, a red-white-and-blue shirt and an obvious eye job gushed to a male colleague they were both wearing badges identifying them as members of the Colorado delegation at the Xcel gates.

"She totally reminds me of my cousin!" the delegate screeched. "She's a real woman! The real thing!"

I stared at her open-mouthed. In that moment, the rank cynicism of the whole sorry deal was laid bare. Here's the thing about Americans. You can send their kids off by the thousands to get their balls blown off in foreign lands for no reason at all, saddle them with billions in debt year after congressional year while they spend their winters cheerfully watching game shows and football, pull the rug out from under their mortgages, and leave them living off their credit cards and their Wal-Mart salaries while you move their jobs to China and Bangalore.

And none of it matters, so long as you remember a few months before Election Day to offer them a two-bit caricature culled from some cutting-room-floor episode of Roseanne as part of your presidential ticket. And if she's a good enough likeness of a loudmouthed middle-American archetype, as Sarah Palin is, John Q. Public will drop his giant-size bag of Doritos in gratitude, wipe the Sizzlin' Picante dust from his lips and rush to the booth to vote for her. Not because it makes sense, or because it has a chance of improving his life or anyone else's, but simply because it appeals to the low-humming narcissism that substitutes for his personality, because the image on TV reminds him of the mean, brainless slob he sees in the mirror every morning.

Sarah Palin is a symbol of everything that is wrong with the modern United States. As a representative of our political system, she's a new low in reptilian villainy, the ultimate cynical masterwork of puppeteers like Karl Rove. But more than that, she is a horrifying symbol of how little we ask for in return for the total surrender of our political power.

Not only is Sarah Palin a fraud, she's the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV -and this country is going to eat her up, cheering her every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.

The Palin speech was a political masterpiece, one of the most ingenious pieces of electoral theater this country has ever seen. Never before has a single televised image turned a party's fortunes around faster.

Until the Alaska governor actually ascended to the podium that night, I was convinced that John McCain had made one of the all-time campaign season blunders, that he had acted impulsively and out of utter desperation in choosing a cross-eyed political neophyte just two years removed from running a town smaller than the bleacher section at Fenway Park. It even crossed my mind that there was an element of weirdly self-destructive pique in McCain's decision to cave in to his party's right-wing base in this fashion, that perhaps he was responding to being ordered by party elders away from a tepid, ideologically promiscuous hack like Joe Lieberman -- reportedly his real preference -- by picking the most obviously unqualified, doomed-to-fail joke of a Bible-thumping buffoon. As in: You want me to rally the base? Fine, I'll rally the base. Here, I'll choose this rifle-toting, serially pregnant moose killer who thinks God lobbies for oil pipelines. Happy now?

But watching Palin's speech, I had no doubt that I was witnessing a historic, iconic performance. The candidate sauntered to the lectern with the assurance of a sleepwalker - and immediately launched into a symphony of snorting and sneering remarks, taking time out in between the superior invective to present herself as just a humble gal with a beefcake husband and a brood of healthy, combat-ready spawn who just happened to be the innocent targets of a communist and probably also homosexual media conspiracy. It was a virtuoso performance. She appeared to be completely without shame and utterly full of shit, awing a room full of hardened reporters with her sickly sweet line about the high-school-flame-turned-hubby who, "five children later" is "still my guy." It was like watching Gidget address the Reichstag.

Within minutes, Palin had given TV audiences a character infinitely recognizable to virtually every American: the small-town girl with just enough looks and a defiantly incurious mind who thinks the PTA minutes are Holy Writ, and injustice means the woman next door owning a slightly nicer set of drapes or flatware. Or the governorship, as it were.

Right-wingers of the Bush-Rove ilk have had a tough time finding a human face to put on their failed, inhuman, mean-as-hell policies. But it was hard not to recognize the genius of wedding that faltering brand of institutionalized greed to the image of the suburban American supermom. It's the perfect cover, for there is almost nothing in the world meaner than this species of provincial tyrant. Palin herself burned this political symbiosis into the pages of history with her seminal crack about the "difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull: lipstick," blurring once and for all the lines between meanness on the grand political scale as understood by the Roves and Bushes of the world, and meanness of the small-town variety as understood by pretty much anyone who has ever sat around in his ranch-house den dreaming of a fourth plasma-screen TV or an extra set of KC HiLites for his truck, while some ghetto family a few miles away shares a husk of government cheese.

In her speech, Palin presented herself as a raging baby-making furnace of middle-class ambition next to whom the yuppies of the Obama set -who never want anything all that badly except maybe a few afternoons with someone else's wife, or a few kind words in The New York Times Book Review -- seem like weak, self-doubting celibates, the kind of people who certainly cannot be trusted to believe in the right God or to defend a nation. We're used to seeing such blatant cultural caricaturing in our politicians. But Sarah Palin is something new. She's all caricature. As the candidate of a party whose positions on individual issues are poll losers almost across the board, her shtick is not even designed to sell a line of policies. It's just designed to sell her. The thing was as much as admitted in the on-air gaffe by former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan, who was inadvertently caught saying on MSNBC that Palin wasn't the most qualified candidate, that the party "went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives."

The great insight of the Palin VP choice is that huge chunks of American voters no longer even demand that their candidates actually have policy positions; they simply consume them as media entertainment, rooting for or against them according to the reflexive prejudices of their demographic, as they would for reality-show contestants or sitcom characters. Hicks root for hicks, moms for moms, born-agains for born-agains. Sure, there was politics in the Palin speech, but it was all either silly lies or merely incidental fluffery buttressing the theatrical performance. A classic example of what was at work here came when Palin proudly introduced her Down syndrome baby, Trig, then stared into the camera and somberly promised parents of special-needs kids that they would "have a friend and advocate in the White House." This was about a half-hour before she raised her hands in triumph with McCain, a man who voted against increasing funding for special-needs education.

Palin's charge that "government is too big" and that Obama "wants to grow it" was similarly preposterous. Not only did her party just preside over the largest government expansion since LBJ, but Palin herself has been a typical Bush-era Republican, borrowing and spending beyond her means. Her great legacy as mayor of Wasilla was the construction of a $14.7 million hockey arena in a city with an annual budget of $20 million; Palin OK'd a bond issue for the project before the land had been secured, leading to a protracted legal mess that ultimately forced taxpayers to pay more than six times the original market price for property the city ended up having to seize from a private citizen using eminent domain. Better yet, Palin ended up paying for the fucking thing with a 25 percent increase in the city sales tax. But in her speech, of course, Palin presented herself as the enemy of tax increases, righteously bemoaning that "taxes are too high," and Obama "wants to raise them."

Palin hasn't been too worried about federal taxes as governor of a state that ranks number one in the nation in federal spending per resident ($13,950), even as it sits just 18th in federal taxes paid per resident ($5,434). That means all us taxpaying non-Alaskans spend $8,500 a year on each and every resident of Palin's paradise of rugged self-sufficiency. Not that this sworn enemy of taxes doesn't collect from her own: Alaska currently collects the most taxes per resident of any state in the nation.

The rest of Palin's speech was the same dog-whistle crap Republicans have been running on for decades. Palin's crack about a mayor being "like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities" testified to the Republicans' apparent belief that they can win elections till the end of time running against the Sixties. (They're probably right.) The incessant grousing about the media was likewise par for the course, red meat for those tens of millions of patriotic flag-waving Americans whose first instinct when things get rough is to whine like bitches and blame other people -reporters, the French, those ungrateful blacks soaking up tax money eating big prison meals, whomever -for their failures.

Add to this the usual lies about Democrats wanting to "forfeit" to our enemies abroad and coddle terrorists, and you had a very run-of-the-mill, almost boring Republican speech from a substance standpoint. What made it exceptional was its utter hypocrisy, its total disregard for reality, its absolute unrelation to the facts of our current political situation. After eight years of unprecedented corruption, incompetence, waste and greed, the party of Karl Rove understood that 50 million Americans would not demand solutions to any of these problems so long as they were given a new, new thing to beat their meat over.

Sarah Palin is that new, new thing, and in the end it won't matter that she's got an unmarried teenage kid with a bun in the oven. Of course, if the daughter of a black candidate like Barack Obama showed up at his convention with a five-month bump and some sideways-capwearing, junior-grade Curtis Jackson holding her hand, the defenders of Traditional Morality would be up in arms. But the thing about being in the realitymaking business is that you don't need to worry much about vetting; there are no facts in your candidate's bio that cannot be ignored or overcome.

One of the most amusing things about the Palin nomination has been the reaction of horrified progressives. The Internet has been buzzing at full volume as would-be defenders of san-ity and reason pore over the governor's record in search of the Damning Facts.

My own telephone began ringing off the hook with calls from ex-Alaskans and friends of Alaskans determined to help get the "truth" about Sarah Palin into the major media. Pretty much anyone with an Internet connection knows by now that Palin was originally for the "Bridge to Nowhere" before she opposed it (she actually endorsed the plan in her 2006 gubernatorial campaign), that even after the project was defeated she kept the money, that she didn't actually sell the Alaska governor's state luxury jet on eBay but instead sold it at a $600,000 loss to a campaign contributor (who is now seeking $50,000 in taxpayer money to pay maintenance costs).

Then there are the salacious tales of Palin's swinging-meat-cleaver management style, many of which seem to have a common thread: In addition to being ensconced in a messy ethics investigation over her firing of the chief of the Alaska state troopers (dismissed after refusing to sack her sister's ex-husband), Palin also reportedly fired a key campaign aide for having an affair with a friend's wife. More ominously, as mayor of Wasilla, Palin tried to fire the town librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, after Emmons resisted pressure to censor books Palin found objectionable.

Then there's the God stuff: Palin belongs to a church whose pastor, Ed Kalnins, believes that all criticisms of George Bush "come from hell," and wondered aloud if people who voted for John Kerry could be saved. Kalnins, looming as the answer to Obama's Jeremiah Wright, claims that Alaska is going to be a "refuge state" for Christians in the last days, last days which he sometimes speaks of in the present tense. Palin herself has been captured on video mouthing the inevitable born-again idiocies, such as the idea that a recent oilpipeline deal was "God's will." She also described the Iraq War as a "task that is from God" and part of a heavenly "plan." She supports teaching creationism and "abstinence only" in public schools, opposes abortion even for victims of rape, denies the science behind global warming and attends a church that seeks to convert Jews and cure homosexuals.

All of which tells you about what you'd expect from a raise-the-base choice like Palin: She's a puffed-up dimwit with primitive religious beliefs who had to be educated as to the fact that the Constitution did not exactly envision government executives firing librarians. Judging from the importance progressive critics seem to attach to these revelations, you'd think that these were actually negatives in modern American politics. But Americans like politicians who hate books and see the face of Jesus in every tree stump. They like them stupid and mean and ignorant of the rules.
Which is why Palin has only seemed to grow in popularity as more and more of these revelations have come out. The same goes for the most damning aspect of her biography, her total lack of big-game experience. As governor of Alaska, Palin presides over a state whose entire population is barely the size of Memphis. This kind of thing might matter in a country that actually worried about whether its leader was prepared for his job -but not in America.

In America, it takes about two weeks in the limelight for the whole country to think you've been around for years. To a certain extent, this is why Obama is getting a pass on the same issue. He's been on TV every day for two years, and according to the standards of our instant-ramen culture, that's a lifetime of hands-on experience. It is worth noting that the same criticisms of Palin also hold true for two other candidates in this race, John McCain and Barack Obama.

As politicians, both men are more narrative than substance, with McCain rising to prominence on the back of his bio as a suffering war hero and Obama mostly playing the part of the long-lost, futureembracing liberal dreamboat not seen on the national stage since Bobby Kennedy died. If your stomach turns to read how Palin's Kawasaki 704 glasses are flying off the shelves in middle America, you have to accept that middle America probably feels the same way when it hears that Donatella Versace dedicated her collection to Obama during Milan Fashion Week. Or sees the throwing-panties-onstage-"I love you, Obama!" ritual at the Democratic nominee's town-hall appearances.

So, sure, Barack Obama might be every bit as much a slick piece of imageering as Sarah Palin. The difference is in what the image represents. The Obama image represents tolerance, intelligence, education, patience with the notion of compromise and negotiation, and a willingness to stare ugly facts right in the face, all qualities we're actually going to need in government if we're going to get out of this huge mess we're in.

Here's what Sarah Palin represents: being a fat fucking pig who pins "Country First" buttons on his man titties and chants "U-S-A! U-S-A!" at the top of his lungs while his kids live off credit cards and Saudis buy up all the mortgages in Kansas.

The truly disgusting thing about Sarah Palin isn't that she's totally unqualified, or a religious zealot, or married to a secessionist, or unable to educate her own daughter about sex, or a fake conservative who raised taxes and horked up earmark millions every chance she got. No, the most disgusting thing about her is what she says about us: that you can ram us in the ass for eight solid years, and we'll not only thank you for your trouble, we'll sign you up for eight more years, if only you promise to stroke us in the right spot for a few hours around election time.

Democracy doesn't require a whole lot of work of its citizens, but it requires some: It requires taking a good look outside once in a while, and considering the bad news and what it might mean, and making the occasional tough choice, and soberly taking stock of what your real interests are.

This is a very different thing from shopping, which involves passively letting sitcoms melt your brain all day long and then jumping straight into the TV screen to buy a Southern-Style Chicken Sandwich because the slob singing "I'm Lovin' It!" during the commercial break looks just like you. The joy of being a consumer is that it doesn't require thought, responsibility, self-awareness or shame: All you have to do is obey the first urge that gurgles up from your stomach. And then obey the next. And the next. And the next.

And when it comes time to vote, all you have to do is put your Country First -- just like that lady on TV who reminds you of your cousin. U-S-A, baby. U-S-A! U-S-A!

I'd be very happy.
 
Mishaps mark John McCain's record as naval aviator
Three crashes early in his career led Navy officials to question or fault his judgment.


By Ralph Vartabedian and Richard A. Serrano | Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

John McCain was training in his AD-6 Skyraider on an overcast Texas morning in 1960 when he slammed into Corpus Christi Bay and sheared the skin off his plane's wings.

McCain recounted the accident decades later in his autobiography. "The engine quit while I was practicing landings," he wrote. But an investigation board at the Naval Aviation Safety Center found no evidence of engine failure.

The 23-year-old junior lieutenant wasn't paying attention and erred in using "a power setting too low to maintain level flight in a turn," investigators concluded.

The crash was one of three early in McCain's aviation career in which his flying skills and judgment were faulted or questioned by Navy officials.

In his most serious lapse, McCain was "clowning" around in a Skyraider over southern Spain about December 1961 and flew into electrical wires, causing a blackout, according to McCain's own account as well as those of naval officers and enlistees aboard the carrier Intrepid. In another incident, in 1965, McCain crashed a T-2 trainer jet in Virginia.

After McCain was sent to Vietnam, his plane was destroyed in an explosion on the deck of an aircraft carrier in 1967. Three months later, he was shot down during a bombing mission over Hanoi and taken prisoner. He was not faulted in either of those cases and was later lauded for his heroism as a prisoner of war.

As a presidential candidate, McCain has cited his military service -- particularly his 5 1/2 years as a POW. But he has been less forthcoming about his mistakes in the cockpit.

More here...
 

Zeliard

Member
GhaleonEB said:
Should be bloated, indignant and sputtering. I kind of like Olberman, but he's better at the off-handed dig and with sarcasm than righteous indignation. I can't take a guy who has a daily segment called "worst person in the world", complete with spooky organ music, seriously at all.

To be fair, I don't really think that segment is meant to be taken seriously. Olbermann's had both himself and Obama as worst persons in the world.
 

greepoman

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Captain Pants said:
Maybe it will be a reverse Bradley Effect and they will vote Obama when no one is looking.

On a serious note...not only might there be a Bradley effect, but there's just the fact that this election is extremely unique with the first black candidate, a woman, and an economic crisis right before the election. If there were ever a year for the polls to be completely wrong, this would be it.
 
Hootie said:
Well if it's anything like this masterpiece (no sarcasm):



I'd be very happy.
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Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Every headline on Politico.com is about McCain being a douche. I'm glad Obama is fighting back, but I kind of like that people are ignoring his attacks and just focusing on how McCain is a worthless sack of shit recently.
 

devilhawk

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Tyrone Slothrop said:
i love watching fox news. nothing better than watching mental meltdowns on live TV.

11/4/08 is going to be their 9/11/01
This is just stupid.

If anything Fox News will welcome a democratic administration. Compare it to how MSNBC and Daily Show attack Bush and the republicans. People watch. Fox News will get huge ratings now that the democrats will be in power and no longer have to mindlessly defend republicans and can instead mindlessly attack. Don't think for a second that Fox News won't love it either.
 

tak

Member
I used to think that today's politics were extremely dirty, but then I started looking into how politicians behaved in the early days of the United States.

Did you guys know that in the early days of the United States presidential candidates would run their own news papers and sometimes declare the other candidate died just days before an election? This method tricked people into not voting for the dead candidate.
 

Barrett2

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tak said:
I used to think that today's politics were extremely dirty, but then I started looking into how politicians behaved in the early days of the United States.

Did you guys know that in the early days of the United States presidential candidates would run their own news papers and sometimes declare the other candidate died just days before an election? This method tricked people into not voting for the dead candidate.


They also burned witches and shot Irish people in the streets. Life was tough back then.
 
Per Politico...


Low numbers in Ohio

After all the buzz -- and litigation -- over an Ohio's law that allows voters to register and vote at the same time, the numbers are a bit underwhelming.

The AP reports that, in the end, only a relative handful of votes were cast in the last week, a rare bad sign for Democrats' turnout hopes:

A weeklong period in which Ohioans could register to vote and immediately cast a ballot ended Monday with turnout that didn't quite match the expectations of election officials — or the campaign predictions that preceded it.

Early returns showed about 3,000 voters in Ohio's four largest counties took advantage of the disputed policy, a surprisingly low turnout to some elections officials.

The window was expected to benefit Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama, as his campaign and advocacy groups pushed Democratic-leaning groups such as college students and low-income voters to the polls.

Ohio is as bad as we think it is.
 

Haunted

Member
tak said:
I used to think that today's politics were extremely dirty, but then I started looking into how politicians behaved in the early days of the United States.

Did you guys know that in the early days of the United States presidential candidates would run their own news papers and sometimes declare the other candidate died just days before an election? This method tricked people into not voting for the dead candidate.
:lol I hear McCain is planning to return to the tactics of yore. Watch Fox on November 1st.
 
devilhawk said:
This is just stupid.

If anything Fox News will welcome a democratic administration. Compare it to how MSNBC and Daily Show attack Bush and the republicans. People watch. Fox News will get huge ratings now that the democrats will be in power and no longer have to mindlessly defend republicans and can instead mindlessly attack. Don't think for a second that Fox News won't love it either.

o_O

well. i think the network will acclimate itself to the change. they need to adapt to survive. but, uh, to suggest that sean hannity and co. are going to be anything but flustered and downright melancholic this november is.... hard to swallow, to put it very nicely.
 

tak

Member
lawblob said:
They also burned witches and shot Irish people in the streets. Life was tough back then.
Another interesting one is a group of people from one party hired a prostitute to try to trick a member of the other party into committing adultery (it worked, but he didn't know she was a prostitute and thought she was actually in love with him).
 

greepoman

Member
Tyrone Slothrop said:
but, uh, to suggest that sean hannity and co. are going to be anything but flustered and downright melancholic this november is.... hard to swallow, to put it very nicely.

How about Obama goes to wherever Hannity is broadcasting live and as soon as he wins he comes up behind Hannity and yells, "Yeah baby, we did it" and then tries to high five Hannity. I could die a happy man after that.
 

Barrett2

Member
tak said:
Another interesting one is a group of people from one party hired a prostitute to try to trick a member of the other party into committing adultery (it worked).


Thats awesome.

Didn't a Congressman or Senator beat another legislator to death with his cane back in the 1700s, on the floor of the House / Senate? You don't get any more bad ass than that.
 
Just say it John . . . we all know what you are trying to say "Obama is a Muslim!"

John McCain . . . the man that burned up the good will of 5 years as a POW.

McCain calls Obama a liar, faults his Chicago ties

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
LBUQUERQUE, N.M. - Behind in the polls, Republican John McCain on Monday called Democratic rival Barack Obama a liar as he leveled his harshest criticism yet, and said the campaign boils down to one basic question: Who is Obama really?

Adopting an aggressive tone on the eve of their second debate of the season, the Republican presidential candidate criticized Obama's ties to Chicago, his legislative record and even his pair of best-selling memoirs.

McCain, speaking about the financial crisis, took offense at Obama's accusation that McCain opposed regulation that would have prevented the credit crunch. "I guess he believes if a lie is big enough and repeated often enough it will be believed," McCain said.

The Arizona senator, a veteran of more than two decades in Congress, told his audience that while he is a known quantity the same cannot be said about Obama, who is midway through his first term as a senator from Illinois.

"You need to know who you're putting in the White House — where the candidate came from and what he or she believes," McCain said. "And you need to know now, before it is time to choose."

Later, he added: "There are essential things that we don't know about Sen. Obama or the record he brings to this campaign."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_el_pr/mccain
 
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