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Can Inafune make anything original anymore? I don't think so.
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Can Inafune make anything original anymore? I don't think so.
I have a feeling that this game will have great firs few hours for most and then it's all downhill after that.
ethomaz
Banned
That is the point.
You see the previews that looks like good impressions comparing it with popular games... you start to read them and see the most things didn't match and the game suffer from a lot of issues and negative points... you watch the videos.
You know it won't be good.
Of course sometimes you get surprised with the final game and that is a good thing to happen but you lower your expectation with the previews and videos from the game more and more and more at the point the lower scores is expected.
FFXV previews has the same things (and others games... I just used a near release game) when you read the them... the writer looks like a big fan wanted it to be good and praising some random parts of it feel is good and after that he says all the issues that makes a low score game in a superficial way thinking everything will be fixed in the final game lol
Odd that the last really positive review I read and I didn't find anything that makes me things it will bomb was Horizon from Game Informer... everything fits perfectly without down parts.
pixellated_man
Member
Honestly go for it. There are a few reviewers who liked the game and your opiniin on the game could end up aligning with them.
To be safe though wait for the first big pricecut and buy physical so you can sell it if the majority of the reviews are proven right.
Leafhopper
Banned
You too can be a hype man with a little work.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
The FFXV previews aren't doing the same thing though. None of them are being hyperbolic claiming it's the next Witcher or Elder Scrolls. They all say that, while it has issues it needs to iron out, it's surprisingly good. God knows how it will turn out, but to say that it's heading the same way as ReCore is nonsense.
Bloodporne
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These titles range from mild eye-roll-inducing to pure absurdity. I mean even if the game is looking/playing good int he preview stage, it would seem to do the game a great disservice in the long run to be so fucking hyperbolic.
The Metroid/Mega Man one is so obnoxious.
ethomaz
Banned
I didn't say nothing about headlines lol
I read previews from press and GAFers... I don't let the headline mistake me.
Honestly at this point, I'd be very very wary/cautious of anything associated with Keiji Inafune after these mediocre attempts. Dude is toxic as of right now as far as I'm concerned.
Hideki Kamiya said it best a while back:
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Would buy for $5 on Steam. Won't ever touch on W10 store.
Ricerocket
Member
All those great impressions from E3 and other show floors though! I knew something was wrong with this game when the only way to describe it was to call it another game like zelda, metroid, megaman, blahblah.
Possumowner
Member
Ouch at some of those reviews,guess I'll hold off on this one
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Inane is fun to shit on, but in fairness, I don't even know what he had to do with this game.
Probably next to nothing
Then you haven't read the previews. What is the biggest issue for you personally? From what I know of your posts in the last years it's probably the combat - which the previews described as feeling more snappy and fluid than in the demos before. The general outlook of basically all of them is clearly positive with concerns about the unpolished visuals mainly (well, SE realized themselves that it needed 2 more months of polish).
Every game has some weaker parts that you can overlook if you like some of the other parts well enough. Deadly Premonition is one of my faves even though it's technically one of the worst games I've played. What is your all-time Top 3? I'll bet I could find you glaring issues in those games that seemingly didn't distract you enough from the aspects you loved.
Regarding the previews:
- The visuals are already improving when looking at the recent footage from PAX or the Japanese 30min video compared to the build the press previewed.
- Not everyone will care about limited driving in FFXV, as nobody expected GTA or Need for Speed, but in fact it did get changed a bit after the feedback after the previews and is now a bit less restricted while on the road. In the end it's supposed to bring you from A to B while establishing a feeling of a long road-trip. We got Chocobos for fast off-road travel.
- Combat as I said above feels snappier than before from many of the impressions. Now they had the whole spectrum of combat to your disposal to make the combat more varied and dynamic than in either of the two demos before - party attacks, party commandos, magic, weapon switching, unique parries etc.
- A bit of jank here and there is totally acceptable for a game of this scale and volume. Name we one AAA, open-world RPG that doesn't have it. You can't expect Uncharted 4 level of polish for every inch of this huge a world with so many character, NPCs, towns, cities, dungeons etc.
EDIT: Okay, read your other post. I guess there's not much that could be done to change your opinion on FFXV. I just think it would be nice to at least give it a fair chance when it finally releases and might actually be good to great game - it doesn't have to be the new gold standard masterpiece of RPGs. See it more like a very important and needed foundation for SE for modern AAA RPG development for the future.
pixellated_man
Member
Nice post. Agree with pretty much everything you said.
The Strokes
Banned
Very polarizing reviews, I'll still pick it up, really want to try it out for myself.
Edit: Also, most of the critics are focusing on technical details like loading times or glitchy areas for what I can gather. I can live with that.
Edit: Also, most of the critics are focusing on technical details like loading times or glitchy areas for what I can gather. I can live with that.
Poor PS2.
Rand0m TAG
Member
happy i cancelled my preorder.
still want the game but refuse to take chances with how expensive gaming is getting.
sure it may only be cheaper than most games but games that i would prefer to get are hovering near $100
still want the game but refuse to take chances with how expensive gaming is getting.
sure it may only be cheaper than most games but games that i would prefer to get are hovering near $100
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Definitely still want to give the game a shot even with the scores. Glad I didn't plop down for that expensive special edition of the game though.
pixellated_man
Member
No they're not. Read again. Game has design issues as well.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Metroid Prime devs, it's a platformer given an almost AAA budget, and it's a platformer exclusive to Xbox, which rarely gets these kind of games outside of indies.
Evolve was received well from E3 too. The name of the game with impressions is context. Some games are great fun to play at first, but in broader context the design can show bigger weaknesses or fall apart altogether.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
This is the oddest batch of reviews ive ever had to deal with.
Namely because most of the negatives listed are things I actually would enjoy.
The only remaining ones are the technical complaints but when I think of the janky shit ive put up with before I still dont think ill care.
Ill bite the bullet for this one gaf.
Namely because most of the negatives listed are things I actually would enjoy.
The only remaining ones are the technical complaints but when I think of the janky shit ive put up with before I still dont think ill care.
Ill bite the bullet for this one gaf.
I loved the B tier. Tended to try out new things more than the bigger games.
I wasn't aware. How does that work?
You can give something 3 stars and still call it rotten?
Klepek used to talk about this all the time on the Bombcast... How much the gaming industry was shaping up to emulate the film industry- You'll have a lot of safer, high-budget titles with little risk, and indie games. I think he's been right on the mark.
The Strokes
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I've read some and watched some of the previews as well, it was clear that the game's jankiness was something to be expected but I don't think that'll bother me that much.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
He came up with the concept for the game. That's probably it. Armature did the rest.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Well, this is disappointing.
I was planning on getting this, but there's almost nothing I hate more in a game than padding.
Maybe when (if?) this game releases on Steam, someone will create a mod or cheat table that lets you skip the collectathon elements...? Meh, it's unlikely.
Sigh.
I was planning on getting this, but there's almost nothing I hate more in a game than padding.
Maybe when (if?) this game releases on Steam, someone will create a mod or cheat table that lets you skip the collectathon elements...? Meh, it's unlikely.
Sigh.
I think demos are just a dying thing in general sadly
Theyve been replaced by 'The Beta'
martino
Member
this is a really long list to prove that this tendancy is wrong.(and this game have others problems)
Already Torn
Banned
But average should be the average, right? Like sort of common? Companies won't be trying to make games that are half horrible, so the average game should be better than half horrible. So 5 shouldn't be average if that makes sense. Like I know this comparison is getting kind of old at this point, but the average score of an exam isn't automatically a 50% just because that's halfway between the maximum and minimum number of points.
Yeah, they're real terrible at telling us all this is one of those play anywhere games that can be bought and played on both.
Not.
This is one of the games known about that is play anywhere.
orthodoxy1095
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If you include Greelight trash and weirdo indie games, a 5 is probably average. It's mainstream developers where a 5 isn't really "average."
Cabbagehead
Member
Damn Hideki spitting that hot truth.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yeah, they're really cringeworthy.
I think he was in a producer role and didn't have any direct involvement. I'm pretty sure 95% of this was all Armature.
I've always thought it seemed a bit disingenuous in saying this was developed by the Metroid Prime devs. Wasn't it about three of the senior guys from Retro who formed Armature?
Because reviews really don't matter to me. If I see a game getting 2's and 3's that would make me wary. For example I loved The Order It did not reveiw well.
If a game interest me I buy It reviews don't play a role. Same thing if a game gets perfect 10's. If I had no interest perfect scores wouldn't make me interested.
Maybe I just come from a different time. A lot of my game purchases were based off the picture on the back of the box lol. There was no Internet, Magazines had reviews. That you likely saw after the game was out.
Nightengale
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It's important to read previews and looking at the footage of what they say they're playing to mentally align on whether or not you agree/disagree with the written preview. We can't always see the whole slate of what they play, but generally we'll get enough.
Eg. If you ask me what games's positive previews sound as great as their write-up compared to what is shown in gameplay footages shown at E3 this year, it's only Horizon and Sea of Thieves. Every other hands-on impression preview + footage feels like there is a bit of disconnect.
Eg. If you ask me what games's positive previews sound as great as their write-up compared to what is shown in gameplay footages shown at E3 this year, it's only Horizon and Sea of Thieves. Every other hands-on impression preview + footage feels like there is a bit of disconnect.
Pathfinder
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After the mess that was Mighty No. 9, I knew I was right to wait on this one...