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Miyamoto on story in Zelda BotW
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OricWindstar
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That sounds great, but I think it's also important to point out that in that article Miyamoto talks about making a hammock for his cat:
BigTnaples
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Interested to see how this turns out.
If they strike the right balance, this could be something special.
Have to say, this is the one game I can say Voice acting doesn't sit very well with me on.(over text)
If they strike the right balance, this could be something special.
Have to say, this is the one game I can say Voice acting doesn't sit very well with me on.(over text)
More games need to do this. I just cannot get into many of the more modern games that take one or more hours to finally get into the game. I play games to play them not watch a sometimes interactive movie.
Frostman
Member
I agree if they strike the balance it will be special, my worry is if it doesn't hit that balance.
That will make or break the story.
Skeletos311
Junior Member
The way he describes how the story can be experienced really makes me think of Zelda 1. You really only get story in the intro and at the end in Zelda 1 and the rest is your adventure.
Really hoped this would be shared and lo and behold, first post. My total approval, good gaffer.
On topic, seems like Miyamoto -personally- sees the cutscenes and such as more incidental to, say, personal anecdotes of what the players find cool in their adventure, like wacky physics' happenstance.
Thank you for this post lol
Jonneh3003
Banned
I love this man.
The Lamonster
Member
Sounds perfect. I don't want to be told a story. I want to live the story, by doing.
I wonder whose idea was it to include voiced cutscenes in BotW.
Personally, I hope Miyamoto wasn't as involved with the script and he stays far, far away from the story if it's presented to be "complex". He's got his reasons which I respect but I hope he's only helped out on the gameplay.
Personally, I hope Miyamoto wasn't as involved with the script and he stays far, far away from the story if it's presented to be "complex". He's got his reasons which I respect but I hope he's only helped out on the gameplay.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
This doesn't sway me at all. I never found the story in a Zelda game to be intriguing. I'm there for the gameplay.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
Nintendogs + Cat Hammocks
Astral Dog
Member
Uh,that would be very lame and i don't thats the intent at all,Breath of the Wild will have quite a developed story,if a bit simple to explore.
And thats ok,the best Zelda games are not the ones without a plot,they are the ones that find a balance and manage to introduce charming characters that stay with you.
wich is why OoT,MM and WW are my top three 😃
Astral Dog
Member
Good news,this will have plenty of great gameplay for you.
Lots and lots of dungeons,bosses and overworld with an improved combat system
The game gives you full reign to explore the world literally 5 minutes in. If you're worried about there being little gameplay in this you clearly haven't watched any videos on the game.
I'd like to hear all these terrible ideas Miyamoto had with Zelda in the past.
My thinking as well.
Astral Dog
Member
Miyamoto was in charge of Ocarina and ALTTP,(later suggested ALBW) Zelda fanboys adore those games
One of the reason why I've always enjoyed Nintendo's games. They always push for the gameplay to define the game and the story is only force upon on at certain times. I enjoy good stories, but sometimes the best part of the story in a game is for you to play the story and not have everything brought upon you during a cut scene.
You know, taking partners out of Paper Zelda and......... Wii Music.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
That seems wrong though. We know there a quite a few cutscenes and characters throughout.
Skeletos311
Junior Member
What it makes me think of is wrong? I didn't say BotW's story plays out just like in Zelda 1. That's just what his description makes me think of.
Inspectah_Deck
Member
I would love to see Miyamotos garden.
family_guy
Member
I liked that they are making more of an effort this time around to tell a story. All developers should allow you to skip cutscenes though for the people who just don't want that.
Inspectah_Deck
Member
Um, did you not see the latest trailer?
Labombadog
Member
I think having voice acting in a Zelda game is progress and not moving backwards. After BoTW, we will want voice acting in our Zelda games going forward.
Moff
Member
I did but I didn't get the feeling it was more story driven than Skyward Sword. To me it looks like the game will give the player too much freedom to have a lot of story.
Yoshimitsu126
Member
I expect to see myself building a hammock to shelter my Pikmin from feral creatures now.
Yeah it's not story driven inso far as the narrative is present every step of the way, but the set up of the game's narrative is heavily based on the events that happened 100 years ago, and this curiosity fuels a part of exploration.
Nintencats pls
Zelda games since ALttP, and especially OoT, have always had stories and pretty great ones too. The big difference is that Zelda has generally been very low on narrative. The games allow the player to experience and take in the story without a ton of explicit and direct story events or dialogue. One of the reasons I find SS to be the weakest Zelda is because of it's over reliance and extremely clunky dialogue and cutscenes.
OoT, MM and WW showed that you can have very satisfying and emotional stories in your game without relying on much dialogue and mostly through well choreographed and short cutscenes. They used the character's body language, facial expressions and a whole slew of cinematic techniques with framing, lighting and most importantly sound to help convey to players what was going on in a scene.
TP really pushed the limits for me on the amount of exposition and cutscenes you could or should have in a Zelda game. SS overstepped those bounds too much. There was an interesting story and really likable characters, but it was far too narrative heavy for a Zelda game.
I hope with VA they can balance things out in BotW. Not having a VA has been a strength for the stories in the series thus far as it limits just how much dialogue you can have before you bore the player, which SS often showed and did. Hopefully they've kept things short and have only what they need.
OoT, MM and WW showed that you can have very satisfying and emotional stories in your game without relying on much dialogue and mostly through well choreographed and short cutscenes. They used the character's body language, facial expressions and a whole slew of cinematic techniques with framing, lighting and most importantly sound to help convey to players what was going on in a scene.
TP really pushed the limits for me on the amount of exposition and cutscenes you could or should have in a Zelda game. SS overstepped those bounds too much. There was an interesting story and really likable characters, but it was far too narrative heavy for a Zelda game.
I hope with VA they can balance things out in BotW. Not having a VA has been a strength for the stories in the series thus far as it limits just how much dialogue you can have before you bore the player, which SS often showed and did. Hopefully they've kept things short and have only what they need.
Schopenhauerian
Member
The journalist at Time, Matt Peckham, asked a related question in this interview (in relation to the Switch), and also included a link for those reading online:
If you follow Peckham's tables flipped link, theres an extended comment from Aonuma:
See also:
Also: 3D Mario over the years
2Smashed4U
Banned
You say that like V isn't the best MGS game
Ok Bill.
Ooccoo
Member
Not sure if serious
Miyamoto's input as a game designer has been awful for the last decade+.
Except we have examples on this very page where Miyamoto's input quite had very positive impacts on some of the most beloved games they've recently put out.
Not sure if serious also