Arnie said:

I've brought this point up multiple times in the Halo Community thread and Frank has confirmed that they're looking at a skill based ranking system, but that it's more than likely not the same 1-50 system as we're used to.

I fully agree with what you're saying; longevity in Halo 4 will be determined, not solely, by if it has a skill based ranking system. As I've reiterated countless times before, anecdotally I know tons of friends in real life who dropped Reach because it didn't have a ranking system. And if Halo 4 is the same then it'll be dropped quickly too.

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DeathIsTheEnd said:

Didn't Reach at least use invisible trueskill to match people up?

The game looks quite stunning and I'm sure it'll be great, but my current concern is that a few of the sound effects sound rather weak.

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The Sound:

Phenomenal. I know you think you heard Halo 4 over that stream, but trust me you didn’t. Sotaro Tojima made me jump out of the seat when a Promethean Knight teleport charged me. The plasma pistol made my ears bleed and the AR sounds more menacing than the CE AR. The game packs a punch in the sound department. I could spend hours talking about how intense and visceral everything sounded. Actually, I think I might do that at some point.

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Mister Negative said:

Arnie, I've had the same experience. Most of my friends dropped Reach for two reasons: Bloom, and the lack of a numbered ranking system. A lot of them have said numerous times that a return of the 50 would get them back into it. I think this is true for a very large portion of the community, or rather, the former community.

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Arnie said:

That's the most important thing to me; the push for a skill based system isn't confined to a section of super competitive players, it's a system that resonates with many types of players. It's a system that offers a more substantial reward than credits or experience, it's a marker of your ability as a player and where you can improve.

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TheOddOne said:

Here are a bunch of stuff I gif'd from the IGN video.

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op_ivy said:

what if it was something like waypoint's BPR but displayed in game?

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Arnie said:

Can't stop staring at this.

That's got potential. But I only found out about BPR a few weeks ago (when I first logged into Waypoints stats) so I'm not all clued up about it's intricacies. The most important thing to me is the ability for it to change on a game to game basis. The Arena system didn't work for many reasons, one of which was that it took too long to see instant changes to your current level.

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op_ivy said:

from my experience, it pretty flawed. says i'm a 99 when i'd say i'm only above average to good. i also dont think it changes game to game but is much more long term. but it could certainly be improved upon.

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Overdoz1z said:

lol BPR, mine has been a 100 ever since they started showing it.

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Arnie said:

It's broken then.

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Overdoz1z said:

So I'm not a perfect player? :/

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Arnie said:

Depends how many 50s you've got?

Spoiler

I only ever got a 48

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Overdoz1z said:

Highest I got to is 45 (in SWAT), most of my ranks were around 40-45. I exclusively played solo in ranked though and I didn't really start playing it very competitively until the end of its life-cycle. I'm a lot better at Reach though. Went from a 1.5 k/d in Halo 3 to a 2.05 in Reach, mostly because I play with teams 90% of the times now.

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Aguirre said:

A lot of sound changes like Plasma grenade. Why?

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rar said:

the guns look and sound pretty bad. also the game still looks really slow, movement speed needs a big bump. i don't like the ridiculous assassinations and all the silly stuff ripped from call of duty. the environments look nice but they're still too busy, and the fov is still too low. as a fan of halo 1 mp this doesn't look like it'll get me back into the series - the devs continue to rip out all the quake-esque aspects of the game and replace them with modern bs gimmicks

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Acheteedo said:

343 need to leave their own mark on the franchise, which I'm fully supportive of. I'm hoping it feels different and fresh, switching up sounds will help that.

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GhaleonEB said:

It's been confirmed that you can play single player Spartan Ops, and in the Infinity trailer, the XP screen shows a payout line for playing online (do so, get more XP). So you can definitely play solo, or multiple players offline.

Edit: here.

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• Incendiary weapons are Forerunner weapons, such as the Scattershot and Lightrifle we saw during the campaign reveal.
• Every time a Forerunner weapon is used, you will get that incendiary animation when killing someone.
• You can bounce off the Scattershot, kind of like the Grenade Launcher from Halo Reach.
• One of the new armor abilities is a shield, when equipped you go into third person and you will not be able to shoot.
• Shield is able to deflect Scattershots – can cause people to commit suicide when used effectively.
• There is a multiplayer mode called Infinite Slayer, with it there is a new point system in where you get points for kills, assist, double-kills, killing spree and more.
• There is a risk and reward aspect in the point system, for example if you go for assassinations you will get more points.
• The Battle Rifle is three-shot burst, there is an indicator when your shots are hitting. On the gun you will see hash marks around your cursor indicating that.
• Promethean vision does a pulsing wave when equipped, it hits any anybody who is in the area.
• There is a possibility to use the full usage percentage of armor ability to see pretty far across the map.
• When you get hit by Promethean vision you will get a audio cue that somebody is using it.
• Sniper Rifle has a lot more recoil to it, between shots it took a while to re-centre it. It was difficult to explain, but it felt powerful and a one-shot kill weapon.
• There is a circle bar on the left side, like the armor ability bar from Reach, on the screen. The more points you get the more it fills up and when it’s full you get to choose a ordnance drop.
• You get to choose three things from the ordnance drops via the D-pad.
• On the right D-pad is going to be power ups, for example speedboost (you move faster, reload faster), powerboost (lets you do more damage) and overshield.
• When somebody is using a power up you will know it via visual tricks such as when you have powerboost you will be red. If you have overshield, you will be green.
• On the right D-pad are weapons such as the Scattershot. They are balancing it out per map basis, on certain levels sniper is the best so that is the highest weapon you can get.
• The ordnance drops carry over when respawned, so if you die before you used it you will get to use when respawned.
• Ordnance drops are very nearby when used and anybody can take it from you.
• Ordnance drops indicators are active when you are nearby, not when you’re on the other side of the map.
• Walshy estimated that there are 1300 possible load-out combinations from the build he played.
• There will be more tactical options, support options, armor abilities, weapons and more when the game comes out.
• The fourth option for tactical option is “Shielding”, which makes your shield recharge faster.
• With the tactical option “Resupply” you can pick up grenades from your teammates or enemies. You can’t do this without the perk.
• The tactical option ”AA efficiency” lets your armor ability recharge faster.
• The support option “Ammo” gives you more ammo from the moment you spawn, but also the ordnance drops you call in have more ammo.
• The support option “Sensor” increases the distance of your radar and the sensitivity of it.
• The support option “Awareness” lets you see your radar while zoomed in.
• The support option “Mobility” lets you have infinite sprint. Normal sprint is for 7 seconds estimates Walshy.
• With the armor ability “Thruster pack” you get only one burst and you can go every direction you want. You can’t shoot when using it and screen goes blurry.
• The armor ability “Shield” has infinite damage, third person and you can’t shoot. You move fairly slow. Shield lasts about 8 seconds before it dissipates and needs to recharge to use again.
• Scattershot has a five bullet clip and you get six buckshots off of it. The rounds can bounce off of surfaces. Can shoot around corners.
• There is a Spartan Laser, much like that one from Halo 3, and takes a while to recharge.

• Spartan Ops takes places six months after the campaign.
• Spartan Ops has matchmaking, difficulty is from easy to legendary.
• On easy the mission they played took about 10 to 15 minutes.
• 343 is not recycling maps from campaign or multiplayer, they are new standalone maps.
• 343 is banking on the first season of Spartan Ops being a full campaign worth of martial.

wwm0nkey said:

Apparently instant spawning will spawn you AWAY from the battle where as the timed spawns (you can do either one) will bring you in closer to battle. So really instant spawning doesnt give you much advantages except for in FFA I guess.

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TheOddOne said:

• With the tactical option “Resupply” you can pick up grenades from your teammates or enemies. You can’t do this without the perk.
• The support option “Mobility” lets you have infinite sprint. Normal sprint is for 7 seconds estimates Walshy.

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koshunter said:

Why...?

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PeterVenkman said:

Is splitscreen online confirmed for this yet? Loadouts and customizeable spartans makes me worried that We won't be able to take a buddy or two online with us in matchmaking.

All I wan't is to play big team slayer with 3 buddies on the same tv. Is that so much to ask?

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enzo_gt said:

This generation, yes it is.

I have faith in 343 though, to carry the splitscreen capabilities of Reach and hopefully expand them further.

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TheOddOne said:

Halshy been giving out tons of info.

Check out his videos: Walshy Halo 4 Day One | Day Two | Day Three

My write-up.

Multiplayer:

• Incendiary weapons are Forerunner weapons, such as the Scattershot and Lightrifle we saw during the campaign reveal.
• Every time a Forerunner weapon is used, you will get that incendiary animation when killing someone.
• You can bounce off the Scattershot, kind of like the Grenade Launcher from Halo Reach.
• One of the new armor abilities is a shield, when equipped you go into third person and you will not be able to shoot.
• Shield is able to deflect Scattershots – can cause people to commit suicide when used effectively.
• There is a multiplayer mode called Infinite Slayer, with it there is a new point system in where you get points for kills, assist, double-kills, killing spree and more.
• There is a risk and reward aspect in the point system, for example if you go for assassinations you will get more points.
• The Battle Rifle is three-shot burst, there is an indicator when your shots are hitting. On the gun you will see hash marks around your cursor indicating that.
• Promethean vision does a pulsing wave when equipped, it hits any anybody who is in the area.
• There is a possibility to use the full usage percentage of armor ability to see pretty far across the map.
• When you get hit by Promethean vision you will get a audio cue that somebody is using it.
• Sniper Rifle has a lot more recoil to it, between shots it took a while to re-centre it. It was difficult to explain, but it felt powerful and a one-shot kill weapon.
• There is a circle bar on the left side, like the armor ability bar from Reach, on the screen. The more points you get the more it fills up and when it’s full you get to choose a ordnance drop.
• You get to choose three things from the ordnance drops via the D-pad.
• On the right D-pad is going to be power ups, for example speedboost (you move faster, reload faster), powerboost (lets you do more damage) and overshield.
• When somebody is using a power up you will know it via visual tricks such as when you have powerboost you will be red. If you have overshield, you will be green.
• On the right D-pad are weapons such as the Scattershot. They are balancing it out per map basis, on certain levels sniper is the best so that is the highest weapon you can get.
• The ordnance drops carry over when respawned, so if you die before you used it you will get to use when respawned.
• Ordnance drops are very nearby when used and anybody can take it from you.
• Ordnance drops indicators are active when you are nearby, not when you’re on the other side of the map.
• Walshy estimated that there are 1300 possible load-out combinations from the build he played.
• There will be more tactical options, support options, armor abilities, weapons and more when the game comes out.
• The fourth option for tactical option is “Shielding”, which makes your shield recharge faster.
• With the tactical option “Resupply” you can pick up grenades from your teammates or enemies. You can’t do this without the perk.
• The tactical option ”AA efficiency” lets your armor ability recharge faster.
• The support option “Ammo” gives you more ammo from the moment you spawn, but also the ordnance drops you call in have more ammo.
• The support option “Sensor” increases the distance of your radar and the sensitivity of it.
• The support option “Awareness” lets you see your radar while zoomed in.
• The support option “Mobility” lets you have infinite sprint. Normal sprint is for 7 seconds estimates Walshy.
• With the armor ability “Thruster pack” you get only one burst and you can go every direction you want. You can’t shoot when using it and screen goes blurry.
• The armor ability “Shield” has infinite damage, third person and you can’t shoot. You move fairly slow.
• Scattershot has a five bullet clip and you get six buckshots off of it.
• There is a Spartan Laser, much like that one from Halo 3, and takes a while to recharge.

Spartan Ops:

• Spartan Ops takes places six months after the campaign.
• Spartan Ops has matchmaking, difficulty is from easy to legendary.
• On easy the mission they played took about 10 to 15 minutes.
• 343 is not recycling maps from campaign or multiplayer, they are new standalone maps.
• 343 is banking on the first season of Spartan Ops being a full campaign worth of martial.

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TheOddOne said:

[*]343 is not recycling maps from campaign or multiplayer, they are new standalone maps.

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TheOddOne said:

My write-up.

Multiplayer:

• Incendiary weapons are Forerunner weapons, such as the Scattershot and Lightrifle we saw during the campaign reveal.
• Every time a Forerunner weapon is used, you will get that incendiary animation when killing someone.
• You can bounce off the Scattershot, kind of like the Grenade Launcher from Halo Reach.
• One of the new armor abilities is a shield, when equipped you go into third person and you will not be able to shoot.
• Shield is able to deflect Scattershots – can cause people to commit suicide when used effectively.
• There is a multiplayer mode called Infinite Slayer, with it there is a new point system in where you get points for kills, assist, double-kills, killing spree and more.
• There is a risk and reward aspect in the point system, for example if you go for assassinations you will get more points.
• The Battle Rifle is three-shot burst, there is an indicator when your shots are hitting. On the gun you will see hash marks around your cursor indicating that.
• Promethean vision does a pulsing wave when equipped, it hits any anybody who is in the area.
• There is a possibility to use the full usage percentage of armor ability to see pretty far across the map.
• When you get hit by Promethean vision you will get a audio cue that somebody is using it.
• Sniper Rifle has a lot more recoil to it, between shots it took a while to re-centre it. It was difficult to explain, but it felt powerful and a one-shot kill weapon.
• There is a circle bar on the left side, like the armor ability bar from Reach, on the screen. The more points you get the more it fills up and when it’s full you get to choose a ordnance drop.
• You get to choose three things from the ordnance drops via the D-pad.
• On the right D-pad is going to be power ups, for example speedboost (you move faster, reload faster), powerboost (lets you do more damage) and overshield.
• When somebody is using a power up you will know it via visual tricks such as when you have powerboost you will be red. If you have overshield, you will be green.
• On the right D-pad are weapons such as the Scattershot. They are balancing it out per map basis, on certain levels sniper is the best so that is the highest weapon you can get.
• The ordnance drops carry over when respawned, so if you die before you used it you will get to use when respawned.
• Ordnance drops are very nearby when used and anybody can take it from you.
• Ordnance drops indicators are active when you are nearby, not when you’re on the other side of the map.
• Walshy estimated that there are 1300 possible load-out combinations from the build he played.
• There will be more tactical options, support options, armor abilities, weapons and more when the game comes out.
• The fourth option for tactical option is “Shielding”, which makes your shield recharge faster.
• With the tactical option “Resupply” you can pick up grenades from your teammates or enemies. You can’t do this without the perk.
• The tactical option ”AA efficiency” lets your armor ability recharge faster.
• The support option “Ammo” gives you more ammo from the moment you spawn, but also the ordnance drops you call in have more ammo.
• The support option “Sensor” increases the distance of your radar and the sensitivity of it.
• The support option “Awareness” lets you see your radar while zoomed in.
• The support option “Mobility” lets you have infinite sprint. Normal sprint is for 7 seconds estimates Walshy.
• With the armor ability “Thruster pack” you get only one burst and you can go every direction you want. You can’t shoot when using it and screen goes blurry.
  [*]The armor ability “Shield” has infinite damage, third person and you can’t shoot. You move fairly slow. Shield lasts about 8 seconds before it dissipates and needs to recharge to use again.
  [*]Scattershot has a five bullet clip and you get six buckshots off of it. The rounds can bounce off of surfaces. Can shoot around corners.
• There is a Spartan Laser, much like that one from Halo 3, and takes a while to recharge.

Spartan Ops:

• Spartan Ops takes places six months after the campaign.
• Spartan Ops has matchmaking, difficulty is from easy to legendary.
• On easy the mission they played took about 10 to 15 minutes.
• 343 is not recycling maps from campaign or multiplayer, they are new standalone maps.
• 343 is banking on the first season of Spartan Ops being a full campaign worth of martial.

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-Yeti said:

Just added some things to your list (in the bold).

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watership said:

This alone has got to mean 2 discs. Right? They can't fit a whole campaign and 10 MP maps on one.

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catotheyounger said:

Waiting in the VIP line to play halo4. Gonna play with Jeff Green. I am stoked.

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watership said:

This alone has got to mean 2 discs. Right? They can't fit a whole campaign and 10 MP maps on one.

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TheOddOne said:

Halshy been giving out tons of info.

Check out his videos: Walshy Halo 4 Day One | Day Two | Day Three

My write-up.

Multiplayer:

• On the right D-pad is going to be power ups, for example speedboost (you move faster, reload faster), powerboost (lets you do more damage) and overshield.
• The fourth option for tactical option is “Shielding”, which makes your shield recharge faster.
• With the tactical option “Resupply” you can pick up grenades from your teammates or enemies. You can’t do this without the perk.
• The tactical option ”AA efficiency” lets your armor ability recharge faster.
• The support option “Ammo” gives you more ammo from the moment you spawn, but also the ordnance drops you call in have more ammo.
• The support option “Sensor” increases the distance of your radar and the sensitivity of it.
• The support option “Awareness” lets you see your radar while zoomed in.
• The support option “Mobility” lets you have infinite sprint. Normal sprint is for 7 seconds estimates Walshy.

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Rigest said:

Did they replace the guy who announced Double Kill, Perfection etc. =/?

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TheOddOne said:

Thanks

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