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Halo 4 Multiplayer Media (Spartan Ops & War Games)
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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Nothing is wrong with it, it's just that they can go camo whenever and wherever they want.
Syphon Filter
Member
How come there is a picture of the ghost on the top right? Is it there just for show or what? Seems kind of peculiar.
The Lamonster
Member
So we still don't actually know if there is still a real jetpack or if the thruster replaced the jetpack? Jetpack was the best thing about Reach...
How come there is a picture of the ghost on the top right? Is it there just for show or what? Seems kind of peculiar.
This is the screen of the person in the ghost. His active weapon is the ghost's plasma turret.
There's a gif around here somewhere that shows the thruster pack, jetpack, and hardlight shield.
Yes we know.
The Thruster pack is a replacement for Evade, one use per max charge, no rolling so you can be hit while "evading" and has shorter range than Evade.
Jetpack is Jetpack, but we don't know if it has lower ceiling or faster AA depletion or what.
I'd say the Halo 3 launch maps were pretty much all fantastic except for snowbound/boundless.
The Lamonster
Member
Cool, thanks. So based on what you said I'm assuming 343 has said they nerfed the jetpack quite a bit.
Vire
Member
On what Earth was Epitaph "fantastic"?...
EDIT: Did you forget about Isolation also?
Terrible terrible map.
We haven't seen anyone really using it and demostrating it. But considering how much Reach AAs have gained criticism and 343i has show they've made changes to them (such as replacing the AL with this new Hard Light Shield (directional, slows movement, can't use weapon while it, explosives penetrate it) and changing Evade to Thruster pack), i'd assume the jetpack has been tweaked/nerfed.
So beatiful, so perfect for my playstyle. Won so many matches on that map. Exploiting bad desing was great.
(No, it is not a fantastic map)
The Lamonster
Member
Makes sense, thanks for the info!
Just don't bite my head off if what i suggested is not true.
7echnicolor
Member
Nice example of a modern skill-based kill.
I hope people complain enough during launch so they can nerf it asap.
I don't see the problem, the weapon looks like a combination of the grenade launcher in Reach and the torque bow in Gears.
It's another weapon to kill people with.
Haven't been following Halo 4 too extensively (other then some of the campaign videos that have been released) but is there gonna be Reach like multiplayer (ie jetpacks, and all those things)? I really hated that. I still got XBL Gold because I play Halo 3 online all the time, but Reach was such a disappointment to me.
edit: on my phone so not able to watch those videos in op right now (plus i got gifs turned off).
edit: on my phone so not able to watch those videos in op right now (plus i got gifs turned off).
Stripper13
Member
Nice example of a modern skill-based kill.
I hope people complain enough during launch so they can nerf it asap.
Anyone who plays Reach regularly will tell you that one of the things that Bungie nailed - was the grenade launcher. A great mix of skill/practice and power potential. Assuming that the weapon in that GIF shares the same characteristics it will be amazing and rewarding.
higherARC05
Banned
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Not sure this was the comparison you wanted to make, since torque bow was a well known overpowered weapon in Gears 1 and 2.
They did make it quite balanced, but this doesn't look like it. The guy barely aims, he sees someone up ahead and pulls the trigger, it's that simple.
Well, it is a power weapon like the Rocket Launcher (a weapon that does even more damage and requires even less skill).
That particular weapon requires (as far as has been shown) a second pull of the trigger to detonate the charge, which brings it in line with the Reach Grenade Launcher's behavior since you have to judge distance in the same fashion. That isn't to say that I think it'll be perfect, but worrying at this stage is probably premature.
Plasma Launcher takes that prize by virtue of being the best antivehicle weapon in the series, aiding in the area that the games had been hurting the most in the last couple iterations.
Shake Appeal
Member
The Grenade Launcher was literally the single best thing Reach added.
I really want to play this game.
higherARC05
Banned
How is that different from a weapon like the rocket launcher?
Vire
Member
This has 8 shots? Kinda a big difference.
Only thing I don't like about this moment: the screen shake should come when the Phantom and first Banshees fly by. It's odd there's no screen shake for those, but it's present for the last two Banshees.
Well, it ain't the final build. Stuff like this will be adjusted. I hope.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
And how do you know if the guy didn't get shot 6 times before getting hit? Or do you have the answer to that as well.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Awesome videos but that guy really stinks. He's throwing grenades at nobody.
Might've been lucky, but it looks like he scores a direct hit. Why shouldn't that kill him?
The Lamonster
Member
The screen isn't shaking because of the banshees, there is probably some distant explosion that causes it.
Do note this new 'Nade Launcher launches sticky 'nades.. indeed, you can see it sticking the enemy in the gif, then the "radar" screen start flipping open but the operator releases/re-pulls the trigger and the 'nade goes off. So it is a tad easier weapon than the Pro-pipe in Reach.
Yeah, pretty disappointing because bouncing the grenades around corners and getting a kill is one of the few amazing things in Reach. It's what made the weapon so great. Wonder what the reason is behind not just keeping the Grenade Launcher.
To me it's the opposite of derivative; it's an episodic, serialised take on co-operative multiplayer with it's own separate narrative that ties back into the games fiction, be it in both single and multiplayer.
It's the one thing they've announced that's absolutely blown me away with it's originality. Quite like Bungie used to do with, say, Forge.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
Speaking of Forge...where is it
Too hard to use? Maybe they wanted to do their own take on it? *shrug* Really wish 343i would make a MP vidoc and explain this there. Or in the upcoming podcast.
I was kinda hoping the Sticky Detonator would have directed explosive grenades like the Spike 'nade in Halo 3.
You know, shoot a 'nade in a wall, wait till someone walks in front of it... Would replace bounce satisfactorily, IMO.
Without holding the trigger, the explosion could be spherical, reduced area of effect but easier to damage someone close to the grenade.
In game, Frankie implied there is 11th map in addition to 10 MP maps, 11th which would be a Forge environment. They'll probably talk about the Forge later on, at PAX, i'd guess.
EDIT Arnie's explanation is better, a couple of posts down.
Who knows, but knowing 343, you'll probably never find out.
It's in, and Frank referred to it's ability to create maps as 'Forge maps/environments'. Somebody brought up the 10 map count in the retail game, and Frank responded by saying that number excludes the Forge maps/environments.