Smiles and Cries
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why did you not wait until Pikmin 3? I guess you get to suffer with the rest of us :3
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UK: Wii U sold around 40k units in opening weekend. attach rate > 2:1
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why did you not wait until Pikmin 3? I guess you get to suffer with the rest of us :3
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Most UK houses in are tiny-should be ok with the range! Especially households that have annoying kids and no iPads..
Besides, they don't need to know that..
Non-gaming functionality needed:
Netflix
Browser
Youtube
Possibly Email too..
I think it has most of those right?
The size isn't a problem, but damn it the brick walls are a pain in the ass for wifi signal.
I ended up sticking my wifi router in the ceiling cavity to get coverage all around the house, otherwise I'd be lucky to get signal in the next damn room!
The size isn't a problem, but damn it the brick walls are a pain in the ass for wifi signal.
I ended up sticking my wifi router in the ceiling cavity to get coverage all around the house, otherwise I'd be lucky to get signal in the next damn room!
Yeah that brick..only recently learnt Arrested Development was serious about those wooden houses in USA.
I (worryingly) sleep 1 meter from an access point to boost the signal upstairs..
Still - to the couch is all that is really needed.. should be ok within 1 room - often the kitchen is connected/very close-by to the living room too.
At the price they're asking and for what they are showing they needed more emphasis on the non-games. There wasn't enough hardcore games to push it for the premium they're asking..ZombiU needed a much longer and better explained ad too. Still have till christmas for the ads I'm sure though.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Ouch. I see damage control has begun haha.
TheDrowningMan
Member
I wonder if Game / online retailers got too much stock, which left a pissy taste in the mouths of other retailers. I tried a couple of Argos stores today, bought CoD from one (they had a single copy today, one Friday, none yesterday) and neither had any consoles whatsoever. Hilariously, one store had a big Wii U poster up (featuring the launch games) but it had been positioned out of sight, just past the end of the checkout. No supermarkets near me have anything to do with the console at this stage. It seems like a stupid move, because they're the places more likely to push it to casuals.
1. I have an ipad and trust me wiiu is very different from that experience.
2. Nintendoland so far from my experience is on par or even excels at showing what wiiu is about.. Also its a better singleplayer game
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It's like the complete opposite to NOA. LOL.
Father_Brain
Banned
Worked for Gamecube.
Of All Trades
Member
Reading is a big utility of tablets and most of the things you're describing are much better on actual tablets. The problem Nintendo is facing right now on this front, and will continue to face more and more from here on out, is that the tablet market is currently extremely competitive on multiple fronts. B&N just released a tablet roughly the size of an iPad, with a great screen and some various improvements/drawbacks, for $270. For the type of customer where tablet gaming (and gaming in general) is a more distant interest than those other tablet utilities that Nintendo would like to promote, prices and tech are going to get better and better through the life of the WiiU.
Sold so well stores (like the Dixon group) stopped selling it.
I didn't really have a choice - I was going to wait, but my fiancee got me it as a gift for my birthday (it was November 24). Not that I'm complaining. I have a Wii U now... I just don't get much use of it yet
shinra-bansho
Member
Oh, just realised the Dreamcast number was for the month of October rather than launch weekend. Anyway, found some more numbers.
PSP - 185K
PS3 - 165K
WII - 105K
3DS - 89-113K depending on source
NDS - 87K
360 - 70K
GCN - 69K
GBA - 67K
XBX - 52K
PS2 - 46K
PSV - 45-61K depending on source
Was the PS2 was supply constrained at launch?
PSP - 185K
PS3 - 165K
WII - 105K
3DS - 89-113K depending on source
NDS - 87K
360 - 70K
GCN - 69K
GBA - 67K
XBX - 52K
PS2 - 46K
PSV - 45-61K depending on source
Was the PS2 was supply constrained at launch?
Father_Brain
Banned
It's ridiculous how overblown the Panic Mode Nintendo meme is. They were able to dramatically turn around 3DS because they already had the necessary software lined up for Q4 2011. A price cut alone wouldn't have been enough, and if Nintendoland and NSMBU really aren't enough to keep Wii U hardware moving at a decent rate for the first few months (which remains to be seen, but is looking increasingly likely), are Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101 really going to do much?
There is no "must own" game for me either right now (C'mon 101!!!), and Miiverse IS the thing I'm actually dying to try out. I really wanna sketch and share on that thing lol. Seems like fun and sketching between play sessions or multiplayer turns was actually one of the things I used to do all the time as a kid.
ZombiU seems like it could be fun though. NSMBU can wait.
I admit that my lack of patience also has (in part) to do with certain things I've come to expect from Nintendo systems: They are always to the point, and they are reliable.
I'm sure these issues are being caused by shitty, last minute programming that will be soon patched up though. I hope so anyway
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Massively. They were selling for up to £800 on the black market weeks after launch as supply was so tight.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
My own opinion is that they've shipped "too little, too late" with non-existent marketing.
I love the idea of the Gamepad as a concept, but I'm not seeing an implementation of it good enough to sell me the console at the price it is at, nor do I yet see the games that make me want to dive in. But that's just my thoughts as a non-purchaser.
I also am a little put off my the asymmetric nature of 2 player gaming on it, if it had 2 Gamepads in the box I'd have been in like a squealing mofo.
Dying was excessive, I agree. Compared to other markets, though, it's certainly not doing well.
test_account
XP-39C²
Ah ok, i understand.
You aren't wrong about the situation but I think you may be overestimating the knowledge/requirements of the consumers they should have been targeting at the moment (till they get their first party games in order).. Still they probably only recently got a Wii and can't afford the current price tag at all!
It's not really tablet gaming at all - it should be more appealing.
Gamecube got some pretty sweet games!
metalslimer
Member
Yep. Honestly, if the Wii U doesn't do well, it will be the first time in Nintendo history where they weren't completely dominating in some field. Even through the N64 and GC eras the Gameboy line was killing everything. The NES and SNES were both market leaders along with the Wii. The 3DS is pulling mediocre numbers outside of Japan right now and the Wii U is being sold at a loss, so if the Wii U doesn't do well I don't think people want to see the panic mode Nintendo that would come out of it.
But wait, it probably has been discussed before but could the remaining stock be the white one ? This is an other similarity with the vita actually. Game companies should stop releasing useless sku.. That create bad stock and spoiled resources...
Everyone is panicking it seems, or partying to the death of Nintendo. It's probably a little too soon. Of course if the WiiU is indeed a big failure, you won't have to look long for the many reasons. But who knows at this point.
At least many peple including myself were saying something pretty clear and obvious some month ago. The WiiU isn't the monstruous one-in-20years mainstream potential that the Wii was. Actually, the whole casual potential of the WiiU is a giant question mark. This is a gamble. Problem is that we all know the Nintendo core without the Wii blue ocean equals gamecube sales, cause the PS360 audience has not been shifted at all. I mean it's mathematic.
Nintendo is clearly not doing anything right to actually take advantage of a year advance to steal some impatient gamers. They don't show any exclusive or known ips with some potential, and the third party situation is already worrying to say the least. Let's say the wait for the E3 to show off, to counter the next gen excitement. Well... It's gambling again. A megaton rain of impressive Nintendo ips will steal the show, but also clearly illustrate the delay in generation. I think Nintendo's chance will be if Microsoft and Sony don't impress cause they are not ready to showcase interesting titles.
Everyone is panicking it seems, or partying to the death of Nintendo. It's probably a little too soon. Of course if the WiiU is indeed a big failure, you won't have to look long for the many reasons. But who knows at this point.
At least many peple including myself were saying something pretty clear and obvious some month ago. The WiiU isn't the monstruous one-in-20years mainstream potential that the Wii was. Actually, the whole casual potential of the WiiU is a giant question mark. This is a gamble. Problem is that we all know the Nintendo core without the Wii blue ocean equals gamecube sales, cause the PS360 audience has not been shifted at all. I mean it's mathematic.
Nintendo is clearly not doing anything right to actually take advantage of a year advance to steal some impatient gamers. They don't show any exclusive or known ips with some potential, and the third party situation is already worrying to say the least. Let's say the wait for the E3 to show off, to counter the next gen excitement. Well... It's gambling again. A megaton rain of impressive Nintendo ips will steal the show, but also clearly illustrate the delay in generation. I think Nintendo's chance will be if Microsoft and Sony don't impress cause they are not ready to showcase interesting titles.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Now that ZombiU bundle really did not pay off yet, I wonder if it was a good move.
I want some France numbers too
lucky dude
I was going to add you but I read someone took your name
I want some France numbers too
I didn't really have a choice - I was going to wait, but my fiancee got me it as a gift for my birthday (it was November 24). Not that I'm complaining. I have a Wii U now... I just don't get much use of it yet
lucky dude
I was going to add you but I read someone took your name
What does it have that costs so much? Seriously-?
Although it was Reggie that said it, he wouldn't lie to us.
True, but it had also been out of stock temporarily all over the place. Which implies initial shipments (rumoured pre-launch to be round 40k) sold out and subsequent shipments are trickling in.
Amazon for example was out of stock of Premium bundles for the last few days, now saying stock expected 4th Dec.
heh where were people discussing the dude who took my name? lol
i think that's pretty funny though
I'm pretty sure it's the gamepad and the tech involved in streaming to it.
metalslimer
Member
It was Iwata that said it not reggie. So unless he's lying to investors (which Nintendo strangely gets a lot off accusations of) it's being sold at a loss. Not a big loss, but one none the less.
It's not like there is magic inside the thing. The likely reason is because of manufacturing, so once a good number of them get going the price should drop really quickly.
Most UK houses are tiny-should be ok with the range! Especially households that have annoying kids and no iPads..
Besides, they don't need to know that..
Non-gaming functionality needed:
Netflix
Browser
Youtube
Possibly Email too..
I think it has most of those right? The only one I remember seeing in the ads was netflix..and that isn't exactly all that well-known..
lol they're not that tiny.
I live in a small apartment and I can't use the GamePad in the room just next door to the lounge. Wish they'd included some kind of aerial extension socket or something so we could extend the range.
You make some good points. The Wii U is definitely a confused product. Even NSMBU says "Press 2" on the title screen, when the GamePad doesn't have a "2" button. Of course, if you've got a Wii Remote then perhaps it'd make more sense. But the Wii U doesn't come with a Wii Remote. Between the GamePad, Wii Remote, the Pro Controller and then throwing Wii Motion Plus and nunchucks in to the mix, well... you get my point.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I think I first saw talk of it in the Nintendo Network thread with the google apps list then a few mentions in the Wii U Release Day thread
well hope you can get some use out of it soon don't let your lady hear you complain about her birthday gift to you
LOL this one is great.
But What exactly is Game and Wario?
Also I feel that Aliens game is having a lot of expectations on it now. Sure hope it ends up being a better version because we are not gonna hear the end of it if it isn't.
I think monster hunter will have a bigger impact than the games you mentioned. The wiiu version is scheduled for western release next year right?
MS has cod marketing rights correct? For the home consoles I mean. I always thought that's the reason why
Maybe..I mean I could believe the research for the motion sensing and low latency wifi setting them back a bit...but to actually cost that much? (UK price is insane).
I meant the "Reggie: Wii U becomes profitable with one software purchase" - don't think I know what Iwata said... he said it was at a loss?
Damn such huge variation...must be interference and not just the brick houses ? If they could make an extension or booster somehow many would appreciate it..
This is what I don't understand. Nintendo have had a long time to get their first part development machine in order, and yet still we see limited releases on their home and handheld machines. They know third party content isn't great - especially on Wii - yet didn't support it with software for the past 2 years.
metalslimer
Member
Nintendo has a good first party setup, except for the fact that 3rd parties don't prop up the droughts in between releases. For the amount of staff they have, Nintendo is probably the most efficient video game company. What exactly were they going to support the Wii with? They use their main teams on both handheld and console so they have to move on to the next systems before the old one has ended.
WonkyPanda
Member
Is it weird that homes are built with a wooden frame? I never knew.
I think I first saw talk of it in the Nintendo Network thread with the google apps list then a few mentions in the Wii U Release Day thread
well hope you can get some use out of it soon don't let your lady hear you complain about her birthday gift to you
haha someone wasted an account to do lame parody jokes
ah, the lengths people will go. I have four usernames I use across the web, it makes no difference that someone decided to use that one ;P
No. I remember it sweeping through Europe. There were not enough consoles on shelves. Most likely well over 100,000. Well well over.
You have a source for your number?
This me made laugh so hard. I know you probably didn't mean the way you have put it but you do realise you can do this with other consoles :shock: you can even play them on bigger screens too
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Game & Wario is essentially Wario Ware meets Game & Watch. Developed by Intelligent Systems (Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario, Wario Ware, Crashmo, etc). It might do okay.
MH3 did ~800k in the west, so hopefully MH3U does just as well or better. I think Pikmin 3 will do well enough. The biggest Q1 seller/driver isn't even listed though (Wii Fit U).
And don't believe Pitchford's Aliens CM hype. The U version's farmed out to Demurge, I expect it's be a similar story to the other problematic ports (forced vsync yielding worse framerates).
Tbh..yes! Not used to that at all here.. fire risk would be huge surely?
grimshawish
Banned
Slightly true, but next week is still important.
But no, no console sells its LTD in a week and these numbers can only be a critique of how things have gone 'so far'.