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royalan

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I think you're slightly blowing it out of proportion.

How so? I mean, that's pretty much exactly what she's doing. And almost at an unprecedented level. People just don't want to acknowledge it because Beyonce's spent her entire career billing herself as "humble."
 

Mumei

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I never understand this. Beyonce is already worth hundreds of millions of dollars. At what point does her "gaining" and "getting money" stop being an excuse for being such a hypocritical cretin and poison to society? Especially when, by her own admission, she wants to be more than that?

I get that she's not the first female celebrity to pose like a slut on the cover of a men's magazine. But I'd say at this point that no other female celebrity gets away with being so trashy while being held up as anything but.

It's time to just call a spade a spade: Beyonce is skanky.

... Really?

You're going with the "She's a slut!" arguments? I didn't think an aspiring slut would be so sex negative, to be honest.
 

Trigger

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How so? I mean, that's pretty much exactly what she's doing. And almost at an unprecedented level. People just don't want to acknowledge it because Beyonce's spent her entire career billing herself as "humble."

I don't think she's been a hypocrite to that large a degree. People are allowed to contradict themselves every now and then.

... Really?

You're going with the "She's a slut!" arguments? I didn't think an aspiring slut would be so sex negative, to be honest.

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I'm hoping Mumei was just teasing, cause that post was way off the mark.
Well, he did call her a skank on this page.

What's the difference between a skank and a slut?

Personally, I find her repulsive in much the same way I find Xtina repulsive. An unflattering self-absorption clogs her every pore.
 

Mumei

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I'm hoping Mumei was just teasing, cause that post was way off the mark.

I mean he was castigating her for acting like a slut and he did call her a skank. I didn't think I was misrepresenting him!

I was teasing about the aspiring slut part; I'm sure he's very successful. :3

Personally, I find her repulsive in much the same way I find Xtina repulsive. An unflattering self-absorption clogs her every pore.

I've always thought that was part of the appeal!
 

royalan

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Your last few posts have been little more about castigating her for "acting like a slut", right?

Not at all! How could I castigate anyone for being a slut when I stan Christina Aguilera?

This pretty much sums up my position on Beyonce:

Because successful female celebrities have to play the harlot to be successful? What kind of message is that.

I'm not against fierce women posing, but there are just too many mixed messages with this Beyonce freakshow.

One minute she's participating in the FLOTUS' campaign to end childhood obesity, the next she's peddling carbonated sugar water for Pepsi Co.

One minute she's talking to Larry King about embracing being a role model for young girls, the next she's artificially lightening her skin for "crossover appeal" and literally posing with her breasts hanging out for men's magazines and singing about getting fucked on camera.

She's not a "businesswoman" she's a goddamn hypocrite and people need to stop giving her a pass because she's "Beyoncé"....whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.

If Beyonce was being upfront about being an opportunistic money-grubbing fame whore I wouldn't have a problem with her. The problem arises when she positions herself as a role model and an upstanding model of propriety. Then you kinda have to point out that she's really a raunchy-ass mess if we go by those very standards she claims to promote.

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I've always thought that was part of the appeal!
It would be if she didn't contradict that air of stately elegance every time she opens her mouth.

At least Mariah seems self-aware when she goes into regal mode. Plus she counterbalances the diva thing with hilarious drunk speeches and genuine love for dem babies.
 

botty

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Well, he did call her a skank on this page.

What's the difference between a skank and a slut?

Personally, I find her repulsive in much the same way I find Xtina repulsive. An unflattering self-absorption clogs her every pore.

I always thought skanky was just how you're portrayed, as opposed to being slutty which is what you actually do...

Roy isn't using Beyonce being "skanky" as a reason why she is a bad person, but rather that her being skanky contradicts certain things she has said, and how she attempts to portray herself.

I wouldn't call Beyonce a "slut," because it's clear her vagina only gets play if Jay-Z is swiping the black card, so she's definitely no Taylor Swift. However, her music, and image has always had a sultry to borderline pornographic tone... which kinda makes her skanky.

I was teasing about the aspiring slut part; I'm sure he's very successful. :3

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royalan

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Well, he did call her a skank on this page.

What's the difference between a skank and a slut?

Personally, I find her repulsive in much the same way I find Xtina repulsive. An unflattering self-absorption clogs her every pore.

I didn't call her a skank. I said she was skanky. There's a difference.

EDIT: pretty much what Botty said.
 

Vazra

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Skank:Derogatory term for a (usually younger) female, implying trashiness or tackiness, lower-class status, poor hygiene, flakiness, and a scrawny, pockmarked sort of ugliness. May also imply promiscuity, but not necessarily. Can apply to any race, but most commonly used to describe white trash.

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Skanky: The act of looking cheap, dirty and nasty and/or also acting slutty.

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Slut: A derogatory term.

Refers to a sexually promiscuous person, usually female.

One who engages in sexual activity with a large number of persons, occasionally simultaneously.

Also refers to one who engages in sexual activity outside of a long-term relationship within the duration of said relationship.

These sexual activities include but are not limited to: passionate kissing, manual stimulation of genitalia and/or breasts in the case of a female; oral stimulation of these parts; sexual intercourse.

In some cases, used to refer to a woman who is wearing "skimpy" or tasteless clothing.

Less commonly, used as a derogatory term by one female for another during periods of conflict.

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botty

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Skank:Derogatory term for a (usually younger) female, implying trashiness or tackiness, lower-class status, poor hygiene, flakiness, and a scrawny, pockmarked sort of ugliness. May also imply promiscuity, but not necessarily. Can apply to any race, but most commonly used to describe white trash.

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Skanky: the act of looking cheap, dirty and nasty and also acting slutty.

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Slut: A derogatory term.

Refers to a sexually promiscuous person, usually female.

One who engages in sexual activity with a large number of persons, occasionally simultaneously.

Also refers to one who engages in sexual activity outside of a long-term relationship within the duration of said relationship.

These sexual activities include but are not limited to: passionate kissing, manual stimulation of genitalia and/or breasts in the case of a female; oral stimulation of these parts; sexual intercourse.

In some cases, used to refer to a woman who is wearing "skimpy" or tasteless clothing.

Less commonly, used as a derogatory term by one female for another during periods of conflict.

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I mean... people use Metacritic around here, so why not.

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Partition

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I rank the Top 20 Gaga songs. Here's the final 5.

#20-15
14-6



5. BORN THIS WAY

WHY: Another underrated track. Born This Way succeeds in every way. It's possibly one of the catchiest choruses Gaga has created, but the beauty of it is that it's also extremely wordy - the lyrics are more involved than most her tracks. It's probably the only song to ever incorporate such a strong, ballsy, message into such a consumable package. I have always loved the song.



4. SCHEIßE

WHY: Scheiße succeeds because it's everything we love about Gaga - it's weird and completely off-the-wall yet so easy to love. Incorporating gibberish into a track is something none of the other pop bitches would do. Easily one of the most solid pop tracks she's created, everything about it is perfect.



3. BAD ROMANCE

WHY: One word: Epic. That's how I would describe Bad Romance. I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that this track probably changed pop music after it came out. It's music video had almost a Thriller-effect on the industry; it put everyone on their A game and made music videos much more of an event (and a bigger budget) then they used to be. It's a simple song, when you boil it down, but that is why it succeeds.



2. PAPARAZZI

WHY: Paparazzi is the song where Gaga learned her trademark of being different, dark, yet still a popstar. It's lyrics are perfect and haunting, and the melody is gold. It's by far the best track off of The Shame. Paparazzi is Gaga at her finest - unique enough to set her apart, but still pop enough to allow her world domination.



1. THE EDGE OF GLORY

WHY: I think The Edge of Glory is her best track for numerous reasons. It's probably one of the only (or the only) tracks Gaga has written with true emotion, not something superficial like fame. It makes a difference in how the we hear the music, because you can hear her heart in the song. It's beautiful really from start to finish; the beginning sounds like heart beats (life) and in the end you hear the didgeridoo which represents a flat line (death), genius really. Flawless track built with emotion, solid lyrics and production, and still maintains catchiness to boot.




Entire list:
20. Beautiful Dirty Rich
19. LoveGame
18. Marry The Night
17. Electric Chapel
16. Bloody Mary
15. Speechless
14. Americano
13. Alejandro
12. Poker Face
11. Eh Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say)
10. Telephone
9. You And I
8. Dance In The Dark
7. So Happy I Could Die
6. Heavy Metal Lover
5. Born This Way
4. Scheiße
3. Bad Romance
2. Paparazzi
1. The Edge of Glory
 
5. BORN THIS WAY

WHY: Another underrated track. Born This Way succeeds in every way. It's possibly one of the catchiest choruses Gaga has created, but the beauty of it is that it's also extremely wordy - the lyrics are more involved than most her tracks. It's probably the only song to ever incorporate such a strong, ballsy, message into such a consumable package. I have always loved the song.



4. SCHEIßE

WHY: Scheiße succeeds because it's everything we love about Gaga - it's weird and completely off-the-wall yet so easy to love. Incorporating gibberish into a track is something none of the other pop bitches would do. Easily one of the most solid pop tracks she's created, everything about it is perfect.

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