DragonSworne
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Nintendo hope to introduce Retro's new Wii U game in 'not so distant future'
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StreetsAhead
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So, just like every outsourced project by Nintendo ever?
Even outside first party games have NCL supervisors from SPD or EAD.
Akihiko senpai, my man. Knack looks incredible. Second Son also appeals to me.
KojiKnight
Member
Oh, I agree. She probably DOES have some sources, but the other parts are also true... since her sources (or her interpretations) are only right half the time or less, you can't rely on her for anything.
(INSERT FAIL HERE)
There was some weird character designs in Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess, you sure about that?
Yup, same. First thing I thought of.
Now how many people are going to get it? ;p
Well they were handheld games, made by a japanese company. And Im not completely sure if Capcom had real input in the game, or just grunt work.
StreetsAhead
Member
Wasn't that Paul Gale?
KojiKnight
Member
Yep. Which is why I don't see why people don't think Nintendo would allow Retro to work on it. Nintendo was pretty pleased on how/where they took Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong Country Returns, there is only 2 other franchises left that are higher tier, that would be Mario and Zelda... and of the two, I don't think Miyamoto would let Mario be outsourced.
(edit) And yes, that was Paul gale.... lol fail on my part.
Cymbal Head
Banned
You know what?
I would be OK with a non-Mario Kart racer from Retro. As long as it did something interesting with the genre. A futuristic cross-country action/racing/strategy Mach Rider reboot or something.
I would be OK with a non-Mario Kart racer from Retro. As long as it did something interesting with the genre. A futuristic cross-country action/racing/strategy Mach Rider reboot or something.
KojiKnight
Member
Sooooo.... F-zero?
I never understand when people say this. How is making a western style Zelda (aka borrowing/using westen gaming conventions) instead of using gaming conventions created by (and at the time) only found on Nintendo consoles (Motion+ and touch screen) going to provide us with any "new" gameplay features?
Just out of curiosity, what would a western reboot look like? Are you talking about the fundamental gameplay elements or something like the overall design, look and feel of the game?
That is what Nintendo needs. It's a significant gap in their line up, especially since no one else is going to make one for the system and the WiiU versions of CoD will likely continue to be afterthoughts.
Are you sure? It's something I've kept in the back of my mind for a very long time.
I'm at work and it's hard to do searches for video games, but I stumbled across this:
http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/201...n-a-project-everyone-wants-us-to-do-on-wii-2/
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
That was debunked
Good to know. Thanks.
Yeah thats not happening. Which is why Star Tropics would be a great alternative. But thats not happening either.
Cymbal Head
Banned
Nah, F-Zero should be co-developed with Sega.
Hmm somewhat subtle, but still pretty obvious. I give you 5.5 out of 10.
You might see a SEGA logo but a bunch of different people working on it. It be a different game if Nintendo contracted SEGA again. Nintendo would also not spend as much money on that once giant Arcade-Console megaton project that saw very little revenue. Nintendo needs to find an efficient model that works for F-Zero.
I'm borrowing this from Shinobi's thread, but this would be an example of what I was thinking of.
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...-game-delays-says-projects-were-understaffed/
I wouldn't think Mario Kart is Retro's only or primary project, but there might have been a need to have them help again, with the project they're making entirely by themselves coming something later.
I definitely could be wrong though.
Nintendo said:
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...-game-delays-says-projects-were-understaffed/
I wouldn't think Mario Kart is Retro's only or primary project, but there might have been a need to have them help again, with the project they're making entirely by themselves coming something later.
I definitely could be wrong though.
IceDoesntHelp
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And recently she's been quite on the spot.
EDIT: Though that's an old rumour, so highly possible its not true.
Why a western Zelda when it could be StarTropics?
It would be interesting to see their take on a similar game.
Yeah, no. He was at Capcom then and only joined Nintendo after the dissolution of Flagship.
Back in the day. The studio is gone since mid-2012.
KojiKnight
Member
Definitely not a full blown "turn it into skyrim" type thing, but I mean more open world and with less stylized (though definitely not "realistic" either). Something that's just a complete different take.
Races all need to be heavily redesigned. The last major enemy/character redesigns were with OoT (compare Zoras from LttP to OoT for an example for how extreme the changes should be)
Those quirky designs are part of the Zelda charm. Also one aspect of western reboots that often disgusts is the look, so why not avoid that? That and the worst thing Retro could do is try and imitate what the Japanese staff draw.There was some weird character designs in Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess, you sure about that?
fluffydelusions
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It's retro so it will be awesome
I also want to say that I disagree with the guys saying Zelda needs a western reboot, even though its a bit on the side of this thread, and I dont get why people believe that being put in the arms of a western developer would all of a sudden give us any more gameplay innovations. However, I DO agree that Zelda should go back to a less cartoony style, hopefully something along the lines of the Wii U-presentation from 2011.
Pie and Beans
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KojiKnight
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I wouldn't be against Star Tropics, that's practically a new IP at this point
I'd just rather they try and take something that is popular and grown a little stale and rework it. Zelda is stuck in a serious rut, a HUGE change, even a "not as good" one may encourage them to continue their experimentations instead of what they've been doing... which has just been refinement.
To be clear, there is NOTHING wrong with the current Zelda games, or in refining games... but after 15 years of refinement it's time for a huge shake up and I think the only way it's going to happen is if an outside studio gets to do most of the work. EAD guidance is okay, as long as Retro has creative control.
Zoramon089
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Zelda doesn't need a reboot and CERTAINLY NOT a western one. That would be a terrible idea. Not to mention most western devs now wouldn't even be capable of designing the dungeons in Zelda games as I haven't seen any western game that even comes close (heard Darksiders did?)
Father_Brain
Banned
Mario Kart? Well, by this fall, it'll be too late for Nintendo to make any real inroads with core gamers beyond their existing fanbase, so they might as well admit that they're giving up.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
I don't even like the Zelda games and I'd buy a Retro made Zelda game to see what they would do with it.
KojiKnight
Member
This isn't just any western studio though, it's Retro. The company that successfully made Metroid Prime a first-person game. Also, again the point would be to be different. A Zelda game made by another dev to mimic the current style would defeat the point.
SniperHunter
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can't wait to see this
Davey Cakes
Member
I'm excited just because the game has been kept under wraps for so long.
It'll be a big reveal just because of the buildup. People have been very curious for a while now, with not hint on what Retro are actually working on.
For some reason I doubt it's a Donkey Kong or Metroid sequel. And people talking about Retro Zelda need to shut up already. It's not going to happen.
It'll be a big reveal just because of the buildup. People have been very curious for a while now, with not hint on what Retro are actually working on.
For some reason I doubt it's a Donkey Kong or Metroid sequel. And people talking about Retro Zelda need to shut up already. It's not going to happen.
The Abominable Snowman
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Starfox.
Eh, I don't agree with this at all. I think we've gotten plenty of new dynamics not only unique to Zelda but unique to gaming. Maybe you can list some features/area where you think some common western/Retro design could change things up?
Also did they not say that Retros involvement in MarioKart 7 was just for Donkey Kong Country assets?
Zoramon089
Banned
I don't even think it's needs tons of fixes. It'd say these 3 would be a huge change
1. A large connected world. Twilight Princess attempted to do this but it didn't have...
2. Tons of secrets and areas that allow use of dungeon items outside.
3. More natural dungeons
I think the issue is that the games have bits and pieces of what we want but never all of them together. If we had a large connected overworld like TPs with the level of interaction that each SS "hub area" had, I think those two things would go a LONG way. And then more natural dungeons like the Yeti Mansion
1. A large connected world. Twilight Princess attempted to do this but it didn't have...
2. Tons of secrets and areas that allow use of dungeon items outside.
3. More natural dungeons
I think the issue is that the games have bits and pieces of what we want but never all of them together. If we had a large connected overworld like TPs with the level of interaction that each SS "hub area" had, I think those two things would go a LONG way. And then more natural dungeons like the Yeti Mansion
InsaneZero
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Why are people assuming it's Mario Kart? EAD handles that.