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Super Smash Bros 4 Roster Prediction Contest! Prizes included! Deadline: June 9
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A bold strategy.
Full roster at the bottom. Namco-Bandai supplemented by lots of internal Nintendo staff and independent contractors.
SUPER SMASH BROS. BLITZ (WiiU and 3DS) -- 48 NEWCOMERS IN ALL
E3 2013 DEBUT TRAILER, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:
- All characters return from Brawl, plus MEWTWO and ROY from Melee. Some veterans sport all-new moves. Examples shown include LUIGI wrangling foes with the Poltergust; TOON LINK gliding with the Deku Leaf; and GANONDORF firing energy balls while wielding his zweihander from the GCN tech demo circa Space World 2000. A quick montage shows the updated appearances of the other veterans.
- Veterans LINK and GANONDORF clash blades atop Hyrule Castle, the latter wielding his zweihander. The stage transitions to the Dark World from A Link to the Past, Hyrule Castle becoming the Pyramid. LINK then transforms into newcomer WOLF LINK & MIDNA, and GANONDORF transforms into newcomer GANON.
- Newcomers PALUTENA and MEDUSA, diametrically opposed goddesses from the Kid Icarus franchise, are seen dueling in the Underworld.
- Elsewhere, veterans SAMUS and C. FALCON are battling their respective rivals, newcomers RIDLEY and S. GOROH. SAMUS and RIDLEY battle aboard the Bottle Ship from Metroid: Other M, with Phantoon raging in the background. C. FALCON and S. GOROH battle in Casino Palace from F-Zero GX/AX.
- Newcomer THE WONDERFUL 101 battle aliens in their hometown of Blossom City. Newcomer LITTLE MAC chances upon the scene while training with Doc Louis in the classic bike scene from Punch-Out!!
- Newcomer MIKE JONES arrives by submarine at Mursasame Castle in feudal Japan, where he is challenged by newcomer TAKAMARU. Each represents a classic title that didn't come out in the other's region (ENG and JPN, respectively).
- Veteran DIDDY KONG and newcomer DIXIE KONG arrive on Crocodile Isle, where veteran DONKEY KONG has been imprisoned in a cage by newcomer K. ROOL. Garbed as a pirate, K. ROOL brandishes a blunderbuss and fires cannonballs.
- Third-party veterans SNAKE and SONIC are sparring on the new Battlefield, when they are stopped in their tracks by the surprise appearance of two new guest characters: Newcomer PAC-MAN, and newcomer BAYONETTA.
NEWCOMER SUMMARY (E3 TRAILER):
Note: Ganon is a Sheik-style transformation for Ganondorf. Ganondorf himself has been retooled to incorporate his zweihander seen in the GCN tech demo from Space World 2000. He also has his trademark energy balls. Ganon can teleport short distances, and wields a trident that can fire lightning or be thrown like a boomerang. He can also conjure up Fire Keese.
Note: S. Goroh refers to Samurai Goroh, rival of Captain Falcon, often denoted as C. Falcon. Goroh wields a katana like fellow samurai Takamaru, but all of his attacks are supercharged with fluorescent pink fire. His Final Smash is the Fire Stingray.
Note: The Wonderful 101 comprises the three main heroes -- Red, Blue, and Green -- and the player controls the trio like the Ice Climbers. Unlike the Ice Climbers, however, there is no risk of separation. Also, the player can switch the lead hero, changing their specials: Fisticuffs for Red, swordplay for Blue, and gunplay for Green.
Note: RE: retro characters: Takamaru and Mike Jones get updated appearances, each representing classic games that were exclusive to different territories (JPN-only Mystery of Murasame Castle, and ENG-only Star Tropics).
Note: K. Rool makes his debut in "Kaptain" form, circa DKC2, wielding the blunderbuss. Like Wario, who made his debut in his "WarioWare" form, but had his classic skin available from the start, so too does K. Rool have his classic "King" skin available. In either case, he wields the blunderbuss and can throw his headpiece (captain's hat or king's crown).
MORE NEWCOMERS FROM NEW SERIES:
Note: Tempo fights with his Music Note Staff, the sound effects when he jumps or attacks harmonizing with the current background music. His animations bob in sync with the music, as well. Tempo also incorporates Tappy the Rabbit, as well as the Birds for his Up Special.
Note: RE: retro characters: Balloon Fighter makes a comeback in similar fashion to Ice Climbers. Sheriff is among the most vintage characters yet, hailing from one of Miyamoto's earliest titles.
Note: Mallo stars in his own Pushmo/Crashmo stage where he rearranges the layout.
MORE NEWCOMERS FROM VETERAN SERIES:
Note: Masks Link comprises Deku Link, Goron Link, and Zora Link, a three-in-one character like Pokemon Trainer. His human form, Young Link, only appears on the Character Select screen, and briefly at the start of a match before donning a mask and transforming. His Final Smash is Fierce Deity Link. Along with Skull Kid (Final Smash: Majora's Wrath) and the Termina Tour stage (complete with falling moon), Masks Link is promotion for the 3DS remake of Majora's Mask.
Note: Toon Zelda can transform into Tetra, and vice-versa. Toon Zelda wields Light Arrows and has her spirit possession powers from Spirit Tracks. Tetra has a swashbuckling cutlass and other pirate tricks.
Note: Ghirahim becomes increasingly metallic the more damage he sustains. His Final Smash is a transformation into the sword of Demise; players then control Demise and wield his sword.
Note: RE: Star Fox newcomers: Slippy is an engineer with a variety of gizmos and gadgets. Peppy can "do a barrel roll," fire heat-seeking rockets, and call in airstrikes (see Mei Ling in MGO). Krystal wields her magic staff and defaults to her tribal princess outfit; her spacesuit from Assault and Command is also available.
Note: RE: Fire Emblem newcomers: Tharja is a witch, like Bayonetta, but focuses on ranged spells, and has a distinct personality. Chrom and Lucina are lords, each with a unique (and highly technical) style of swordplay that differentiates them from veterans Marth, Roy, and Ike.
Note: RE: Pokemon newcomers: Mewtwo-A refers to his Awakened Forme, which Mewtwo can assume in a Sheik-style transformation. Deoxys changes between his four forms on a move-by-move basis (I.E. shielding assumes Defense Forme). Zoroark has the ability to temporarily assume the form of his opponents, and create illusory mirror images of himself to distract them.
NEW ASSIST TROPHIES INCLUDE:
NEW STAGES INCLUDE:
WORLD STAGES:
A new concept in Blitz: "World Stages" are a class of stage in which players are shuttled between up to 10 "sub-stages," each of which can be selected individually (or toggled on or off) in Stage Options.
Sakurai uses Crocodile Isle, from DKC2, as an example. By default, players are shuttled between the following 10 sub-stages on Crocodile Isle:
From there, it's off to KREM QUAY, which encapsulates the swamp levels, including pouring rain and shipwrecks mired in mud. HORNET HOLE is inside a Zinger hive, with honey-drenched floors and swarms of angry insects. In KRAZY KREMLAND proper, players battle atop the shoulders of pirate statues and the rickety rollercoaster they support, dodging the gem-eyed skull carts as they whiz by, with bramble thickets framing the level on either side, and fireworks popping in the distant night skies.
From there, the battle continues in GLOOMY GULCH -- a foggy moonlit forest filled with phantoms and flickering ghost ropes. In K. ROOL'S KEEP, players fight in the torch-lit confines of a great stone castle, packed with perilous traps. For THE FLYING KROC, players battle atop the massive airship, the rotors forming a hazard. And in THE LOST WORLD, the battle goes from the lush jungles on the exterior of an ancient volcano, to the grand temple and energy core inside.
Ex-Rareware staff who worked on DKC2 have been enlisted to reconstruct these locations as full-blown stages for Blitz. In addition, Dave Wise is creating orchestral arrangements of the entire DKC2 OST.
FULL CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN:
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Toad
5. Geno
6. Bowser
7. Yoshi
8. Wario
9. Donkey Kong
10. Diddy Kong
11. Dixie Kong
12. K. Rool
13. Link | Wolf Link & Midna
14. Zelda | Sheik
15. Ganondorf | Ganon
16. Masks Link (Deku Link | Goron Link | Zora Link)
17. Toon Link
18. Toon Zelda | Tetra
19. Skull Kid
20. Ghirahim
21. Samus | Zero Suit Samus
22. Ridley
23. Fox
24. Falco
25. Slippy
26. Peppy
27. Krystal
28. Wolf
29. Kirby
30. Meta Knight
31. King Dedede
32. Ness
33. Jeff
34. Lucas
35. Kumatora
36. Pit
37. Palutena
38. Medusa
39. Magnus
40. Hades
41. Viridi
42. Captain Falcon
43. Samurai Goroh
44. Pikachu
45. Jigglypuff
46. Mewtwo | Mewtwo-A
47. PKMN Trainer (Squirtle | Ivysaur | Charizard)
48. Deoxys
49. Lucario
50. Zoroark
51. Marth
52. Roy
53. Ike
54. Chrom
55. Lucina
56. Tharja
57. Olimar
58. Little Mac
59. King Hippo
60. Takamaru
61. Mike Jones
62. Ice Climbers
63. Balloon Fighter
64. The Wonderful 101
65. Tempo
66. Dillon
67. Andy
68. Isaac
69. Shulk
70. ROB
71. Mr. Game & Watch
72. Sheriff
73. Mii
74. Sonic
75. Snake
76. Pac-Man
77. Mega Man
78. S. Belmont
79. Bayonetta
80. RANDOM
SUPER SMASH BROS. BLITZ (WiiU and 3DS) -- 48 NEWCOMERS IN ALL
E3 2013 DEBUT TRAILER, IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:
- All characters return from Brawl, plus MEWTWO and ROY from Melee. Some veterans sport all-new moves. Examples shown include LUIGI wrangling foes with the Poltergust; TOON LINK gliding with the Deku Leaf; and GANONDORF firing energy balls while wielding his zweihander from the GCN tech demo circa Space World 2000. A quick montage shows the updated appearances of the other veterans.
- Veterans LINK and GANONDORF clash blades atop Hyrule Castle, the latter wielding his zweihander. The stage transitions to the Dark World from A Link to the Past, Hyrule Castle becoming the Pyramid. LINK then transforms into newcomer WOLF LINK & MIDNA, and GANONDORF transforms into newcomer GANON.
- Newcomers PALUTENA and MEDUSA, diametrically opposed goddesses from the Kid Icarus franchise, are seen dueling in the Underworld.
- Elsewhere, veterans SAMUS and C. FALCON are battling their respective rivals, newcomers RIDLEY and S. GOROH. SAMUS and RIDLEY battle aboard the Bottle Ship from Metroid: Other M, with Phantoon raging in the background. C. FALCON and S. GOROH battle in Casino Palace from F-Zero GX/AX.
- Newcomer THE WONDERFUL 101 battle aliens in their hometown of Blossom City. Newcomer LITTLE MAC chances upon the scene while training with Doc Louis in the classic bike scene from Punch-Out!!
- Newcomer MIKE JONES arrives by submarine at Mursasame Castle in feudal Japan, where he is challenged by newcomer TAKAMARU. Each represents a classic title that didn't come out in the other's region (ENG and JPN, respectively).
- Veteran DIDDY KONG and newcomer DIXIE KONG arrive on Crocodile Isle, where veteran DONKEY KONG has been imprisoned in a cage by newcomer K. ROOL. Garbed as a pirate, K. ROOL brandishes a blunderbuss and fires cannonballs.
- Third-party veterans SNAKE and SONIC are sparring on the new Battlefield, when they are stopped in their tracks by the surprise appearance of two new guest characters: Newcomer PAC-MAN, and newcomer BAYONETTA.
NEWCOMER SUMMARY (E3 TRAILER):
- WOLF LINK & MIDNA (from The Legend of Zelda)
- GANON (from The Legend of Zelda)
- PALUTENA (from Kid Icarus)
- MEDUSA (from Kid Icarus)
- RIDLEY (from Metroid)
- S. GOROH (from F-Zero)
- THE WONDERFUL 101 (from The Wonderful 101)
- LITTLE MAC (from Punch-Out!!)
- MIKE JONES (from Star Tropics)
- TAKAMARU (from Mystery of Murasame Castle)
- DIXIE KONG (from Donkey Kong)
- K. ROOL (from Donkey Kong)
- PAC-MAN (from Pac-Man)
- BAYONETTA (from Bayonetta)
Note: Ganon is a Sheik-style transformation for Ganondorf. Ganondorf himself has been retooled to incorporate his zweihander seen in the GCN tech demo from Space World 2000. He also has his trademark energy balls. Ganon can teleport short distances, and wields a trident that can fire lightning or be thrown like a boomerang. He can also conjure up Fire Keese.
Note: S. Goroh refers to Samurai Goroh, rival of Captain Falcon, often denoted as C. Falcon. Goroh wields a katana like fellow samurai Takamaru, but all of his attacks are supercharged with fluorescent pink fire. His Final Smash is the Fire Stingray.
Note: The Wonderful 101 comprises the three main heroes -- Red, Blue, and Green -- and the player controls the trio like the Ice Climbers. Unlike the Ice Climbers, however, there is no risk of separation. Also, the player can switch the lead hero, changing their specials: Fisticuffs for Red, swordplay for Blue, and gunplay for Green.
Note: RE: retro characters: Takamaru and Mike Jones get updated appearances, each representing classic games that were exclusive to different territories (JPN-only Mystery of Murasame Castle, and ENG-only Star Tropics).
Note: K. Rool makes his debut in "Kaptain" form, circa DKC2, wielding the blunderbuss. Like Wario, who made his debut in his "WarioWare" form, but had his classic skin available from the start, so too does K. Rool have his classic "King" skin available. In either case, he wields the blunderbuss and can throw his headpiece (captain's hat or king's crown).
MORE NEWCOMERS FROM NEW SERIES:
- KING HIPPO (from Punch-Out!!)
- BALLOON FIGHTER (from Balloon Fight)
- DILLON (from Dillon's Rolling Western)
- TEMPO (from HarmoKnight)
- ANDY (from Advance Wars)
- ISAAC (from Golden Sun)
- SHULK (from Xenoblade)
- SHERIFF (from Sheriff)
- MII (from Wii series)
- MEGA MAN (from Mega Man)
- S. BELMONT (from Castlevania)
Note: Tempo fights with his Music Note Staff, the sound effects when he jumps or attacks harmonizing with the current background music. His animations bob in sync with the music, as well. Tempo also incorporates Tappy the Rabbit, as well as the Birds for his Up Special.
Note: RE: retro characters: Balloon Fighter makes a comeback in similar fashion to Ice Climbers. Sheriff is among the most vintage characters yet, hailing from one of Miyamoto's earliest titles.
Note: Mallo stars in his own Pushmo/Crashmo stage where he rearranges the layout.
MORE NEWCOMERS FROM VETERAN SERIES:
- TOAD (from Super Mario)
- GENO (from Super Mario)
- MASKS LINK [DEKU | GORON | ZORA] (from The Legend of Zelda)
- TOON ZELDA | TETRA (from The Legend of Zelda)
- SKULL KID (from The Legend of Zelda)
- GHIRAHIM (from The Legend of Zelda)
- MAGNUS (from Kid Icarus)
- HADES (from Kid Icarus)
- VIRIDI (from Kid Icarus)
- SLIPPY (from Star Fox)
- PEPPY (from Star Fox)
- KRYSTAL (from Star Fox)
- JEFF (from Mother)
- KUMATORA (from Mother)
- CHROM (from Fire Emblem)
- LUCINA (from Fire Emblem)
- THARJA (from Fire Emblem)
- MEWTWO-A [Alt] (from Pokemon)
- DEOXYS (from Pokemon)
- ZOROARK (from Pokemon)
Note: Masks Link comprises Deku Link, Goron Link, and Zora Link, a three-in-one character like Pokemon Trainer. His human form, Young Link, only appears on the Character Select screen, and briefly at the start of a match before donning a mask and transforming. His Final Smash is Fierce Deity Link. Along with Skull Kid (Final Smash: Majora's Wrath) and the Termina Tour stage (complete with falling moon), Masks Link is promotion for the 3DS remake of Majora's Mask.
Note: Toon Zelda can transform into Tetra, and vice-versa. Toon Zelda wields Light Arrows and has her spirit possession powers from Spirit Tracks. Tetra has a swashbuckling cutlass and other pirate tricks.
Note: Ghirahim becomes increasingly metallic the more damage he sustains. His Final Smash is a transformation into the sword of Demise; players then control Demise and wield his sword.
Note: RE: Star Fox newcomers: Slippy is an engineer with a variety of gizmos and gadgets. Peppy can "do a barrel roll," fire heat-seeking rockets, and call in airstrikes (see Mei Ling in MGO). Krystal wields her magic staff and defaults to her tribal princess outfit; her spacesuit from Assault and Command is also available.
Note: RE: Fire Emblem newcomers: Tharja is a witch, like Bayonetta, but focuses on ranged spells, and has a distinct personality. Chrom and Lucina are lords, each with a unique (and highly technical) style of swordplay that differentiates them from veterans Marth, Roy, and Ike.
Note: RE: Pokemon newcomers: Mewtwo-A refers to his Awakened Forme, which Mewtwo can assume in a Sheik-style transformation. Deoxys changes between his four forms on a move-by-move basis (I.E. shielding assumes Defense Forme). Zoroark has the ability to temporarily assume the form of his opponents, and create illusory mirror images of himself to distract them.
NEW ASSIST TROPHIES INCLUDE:
- ELITE BEAT AGENTS and OUENDAN (from EBA/Ouendan)
- THE DENPA MEN (from The Denpa Men)
- LYRA and TYKO (from HarmoKnight)
- DR. KAWASHIMA (from Brain Age)
- CHIBI-ROBO (from Chibi-Robo!)
- GROOSE (from Skyward Sword)
- THANATOS (from Kid Icarus)
- SUMIA (from Fire Emblem)
NEW STAGES INCLUDE:
- BATTLEFIELD (from Super Smash Bros. Blitz)
- RHYTHM HEAVEN (from Rhythm Heaven)
- NINTENDO LAND (from Nintendo Land)
- WUHU ISLAND (from Wii Sports Resort)
- GALAXY TOUR (from Super Mario Galaxy)
- HAUNTED TOWERS (from Luigi's Mansion 2)
- DK ISLAND (from Donkey Kong Country Returns)
- CROCODILE ISLE (from Donkey Kong Country 2)
- HYRULE CASTLE/GREAT PYRAMID (from A Link to the Past)
- TERMINA TOUR (from Majora's Mask)
- SKYLOFT (from Skyward Sword)
- UNDERWORLD (from Kid Icarus)
- BOTTLE SHIP (from Metroid: Other M)
- CASINO PALACE (from F-Zero GX/AX)
- BLOSSOM CITY (from The Wonderful 101)
- MURASAME CASTLE (from Mystery of Murasame Castle)
- BIONIS STROLL (from Xenoblade)
- PUSHMO PARK (from Pushmo)
- MELODIA (from HarmoKnight)
WORLD STAGES:
A new concept in Blitz: "World Stages" are a class of stage in which players are shuttled between up to 10 "sub-stages," each of which can be selected individually (or toggled on or off) in Stage Options.
Sakurai uses Crocodile Isle, from DKC2, as an example. By default, players are shuttled between the following 10 sub-stages on Crocodile Isle:
- GANGPLANK GALLEON
- CROCODILE CAULDRON
- KANNON'S KLAIM
- KREM QUAY
- HORNET HOLE
- KRAZY KREMLAND
- GLOOMY GULCH
- K. ROOL'S KEEP
- THE FLYING KROC
- THE LOST WORLD
From there, it's off to KREM QUAY, which encapsulates the swamp levels, including pouring rain and shipwrecks mired in mud. HORNET HOLE is inside a Zinger hive, with honey-drenched floors and swarms of angry insects. In KRAZY KREMLAND proper, players battle atop the shoulders of pirate statues and the rickety rollercoaster they support, dodging the gem-eyed skull carts as they whiz by, with bramble thickets framing the level on either side, and fireworks popping in the distant night skies.
From there, the battle continues in GLOOMY GULCH -- a foggy moonlit forest filled with phantoms and flickering ghost ropes. In K. ROOL'S KEEP, players fight in the torch-lit confines of a great stone castle, packed with perilous traps. For THE FLYING KROC, players battle atop the massive airship, the rotors forming a hazard. And in THE LOST WORLD, the battle goes from the lush jungles on the exterior of an ancient volcano, to the grand temple and energy core inside.
Ex-Rareware staff who worked on DKC2 have been enlisted to reconstruct these locations as full-blown stages for Blitz. In addition, Dave Wise is creating orchestral arrangements of the entire DKC2 OST.
FULL CHARACTER SELECT SCREEN:
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Toad
5. Geno
6. Bowser
7. Yoshi
8. Wario
9. Donkey Kong
10. Diddy Kong
11. Dixie Kong
12. K. Rool
13. Link | Wolf Link & Midna
14. Zelda | Sheik
15. Ganondorf | Ganon
16. Masks Link (Deku Link | Goron Link | Zora Link)
17. Toon Link
18. Toon Zelda | Tetra
19. Skull Kid
20. Ghirahim
21. Samus | Zero Suit Samus
22. Ridley
23. Fox
24. Falco
25. Slippy
26. Peppy
27. Krystal
28. Wolf
29. Kirby
30. Meta Knight
31. King Dedede
32. Ness
33. Jeff
34. Lucas
35. Kumatora
36. Pit
37. Palutena
38. Medusa
39. Magnus
40. Hades
41. Viridi
42. Captain Falcon
43. Samurai Goroh
44. Pikachu
45. Jigglypuff
46. Mewtwo | Mewtwo-A
47. PKMN Trainer (Squirtle | Ivysaur | Charizard)
48. Deoxys
49. Lucario
50. Zoroark
51. Marth
52. Roy
53. Ike
54. Chrom
55. Lucina
56. Tharja
57. Olimar
58. Little Mac
59. King Hippo
60. Takamaru
61. Mike Jones
62. Ice Climbers
63. Balloon Fighter
64. The Wonderful 101
65. Tempo
66. Dillon
67. Andy
68. Isaac
69. Shulk
70. ROB
71. Mr. Game & Watch
72. Sheriff
73. Mii
74. Sonic
75. Snake
76. Pac-Man
77. Mega Man
78. S. Belmont
79. Bayonetta
80. RANDOM
I have a few different rosters at the moment, but I'll definitely narrow it down to just one later.
Here's my ideal/optimistic roster of 50 characters (54 counting transformations, Pokémon Trainer):
Here's a more realistic roster of 45 characters (49 counting transformations, Pokémon Trainer):
And here's an even smaller roster of just 40 characters (44 counting transformations, Pokémon Trainer):
I think any of the characters in the first roster are very likely to get in, but narrowing them down is so hard. I doubt we'll have 50 characters, unfortunately, so there's no way that all of them will make the cut...
Whoever ends up making the cut, I wouldn't expect a ton of newcomers this time around.
I'll also put these here for now until I finish them:
Assist Trophies:
Poké Ball Pokémon:
Stages:
Items:
Here's my ideal/optimistic roster of 50 characters (54 counting transformations, Pokémon Trainer):
Here's a more realistic roster of 45 characters (49 counting transformations, Pokémon Trainer):
And here's an even smaller roster of just 40 characters (44 counting transformations, Pokémon Trainer):
I think any of the characters in the first roster are very likely to get in, but narrowing them down is so hard. I doubt we'll have 50 characters, unfortunately, so there's no way that all of them will make the cut...
Whoever ends up making the cut, I wouldn't expect a ton of newcomers this time around.
I'll also put these here for now until I finish them:
Assist Trophies:
Poké Ball Pokémon:
Stages:
Items:
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Neiteio is my new favorite poster on this forum.
EDIT: No Waluigi or Tingle? Fuck that.
EDIT: No Waluigi or Tingle? Fuck that.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
But Neiteio's Blitz is sooo awesome tho. I need to post my list for fun. I can promise that you will see Palutena, Laughing Dog and Takamaru on my list.
I would assume that we are getting low 50s (such as 52) (counting transformation and parties characters)
Nocturnowl
Member
You're a cruel man making me long for something that will never ever happen.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That would be cool stage actually. Too bad that they wouldn't come back to DKC series ever again since they have Retro's DKC.
DK Island, also on my stage list, is the World Stage for DKC Returns. Ten locations, spanning iconic spots around the island (including one for each of the eight core worlds). You'll glimpse it in DK's screenshots, but Crocodile Isle is the one they'll formally unveil first.
Nocturnowl
Member
DKC wont return by virtue of DKC Returns, what a twist.
My guesses:
fairly certain:
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Link
4. Zelda
5. Samus Aran
6. Pikachu
7. Donkey Kong
8. Captain Falcon
9. Fox
10. Falco
11. Kirby
12. Pit
13. Peach
14. Ness
15. Bowser
16. Yoshi
17. Marth
18. Ganandorf
19. Wario
20. Pokemon trainer
Maybes and wild guesses:
21. Diddy Kong
22. Dixie Kong
23. Waluigi
24. Paper Mario
25. 8-bit link
26. Sonic
27. Tails
28. Mega Man
29. Pac-Man
30. Solid Snake
31. Mr Game and Watch
32. Pauline
33. Starfy
34. Professor Layton
35. Paper Luigi
36. R.O.B.
37. Olimar
38. Little Mac
39. Mach Rider
40. King Dedede
41. Ice Climbers
42. Meta Knight
43. Stanley (from Donkey Kong 3)
44. Shantae
45. Jigglypuff
edit: 8-bit link is a way out there guess, but I'd love to see an 8-bit iteration of one of Ninendo's characters in the game. Hell, I'd go for CD-I Link
fairly certain:
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Link
4. Zelda
5. Samus Aran
6. Pikachu
7. Donkey Kong
8. Captain Falcon
9. Fox
10. Falco
11. Kirby
12. Pit
13. Peach
14. Ness
15. Bowser
16. Yoshi
17. Marth
18. Ganandorf
19. Wario
20. Pokemon trainer
Maybes and wild guesses:
21. Diddy Kong
22. Dixie Kong
23. Waluigi
24. Paper Mario
25. 8-bit link
26. Sonic
27. Tails
28. Mega Man
29. Pac-Man
30. Solid Snake
31. Mr Game and Watch
32. Pauline
33. Starfy
34. Professor Layton
35. Paper Luigi
36. R.O.B.
37. Olimar
38. Little Mac
39. Mach Rider
40. King Dedede
41. Ice Climbers
42. Meta Knight
43. Stanley (from Donkey Kong 3)
44. Shantae
45. Jigglypuff
edit: 8-bit link is a way out there guess, but I'd love to see an 8-bit iteration of one of Ninendo's characters in the game. Hell, I'd go for CD-I Link
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That would be so perfect.
You know how they always based on latest version in Brawl, if I recalled correctly.
Characters
Assist Trophies:
Pokeballs:
I don't follow the series that much so I'm just going to copy someone else's list if that's okay.
Stages:
Items:
- Returning:
- Mario
- Luigi
- Peach
- Bowser
- Donkey Kong
- Diddy Kong
- Yoshi
- Wario
- Link
- Zelda/Sheik
- Ganondorf
- Toon Link
- Samus/Zero Suit Samus
- Pit
- Ice Climbers
- Kirby
- Meta Knight
- King Dedede
- Olimar
- Fox
- Falco
- Captain Falcon
- Pikachu
- Jigglypuff
- Marth
- Ness
- Lucas
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Snake
- Sonic
- New:
- Waluigi
- X/Y Trainer with the 3 new starters
- New form of Mewtwo
- Magnus
- Takamaru
- Chrom
- King K'. Rool
- Ridley
- Little Mac
- Pac-Man
- Bayonetta
- Removed:
- Ike
- R.O.B
- Wolf
- Pokemon Trainer
- Lucario
- Totals: 40 Characters in total 30 Returning. 10 New. 5 Removed.
Assist Trophies:
New:- Dillon
- Dr. Ryuta Kawashima
- Tempo
- Shulk
- Skull Kid
- Units from Fire Emblem in sprite form.
- Various Miis
- Various Gods and Goddesses (Kid Icarus)
- Various Kongs (Donkey Kong)
- Various Small Airships (Starfox)
Pokeballs:
I don't follow the series that much so I'm just going to copy someone else's list if that's okay.
New:
- Ditto
- Keldeo
- Kyurem
- Landorus
- Lickitung
- Meloetta
- Oshawott
- Sylveon
- Thundurus
- Tornadus
Stages:
- New:
- The Underworld (Kid Icarus Uprising)
- Egg Galaxy (Super Mario Galaxy)
- Skyloft (Skyward Sword)
- Pac-Man Maze (Pac-Man)
- Sunset Shore (Donkey Kong Country Returns)
- Patch Land (Kirby's Epic Yarn)
- Wuhu Island (Wii Sports)
- Bowser's Castle (Any Mario Game)
Items:
- New:
- Eggplant Bomb (Kid Icarus)
- Blue Shell (Mario Kart)
- Poltergust 5000 (Luigi's Mansion)
- Pac-Man Power Pellet (Pac-Man)
- Super Leaf (Super Mario World)
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
If Hiro is to be believed I more or less correctly guess Sylveon's Type, let's see how lucky I can get with Smash...
Watch Da Birdie's Watch Dat Smash Brothers 4 Roster Prediction
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Paper Mario *NEW*
6. Pikachu
7. Pokemon Trainer - Squirtle
8. Pokemon Trainer - Ivysaur
9. Pokemon Trainer - Charizard
10. Jigglypuff
11. Mewtwo *RETURN*
12. Genesect *NEW*
13. Link (Skyward Sword appearance)
14. Zelda (Skyward Sword appearance)
15. Sheik (new design influenced by SS Impa)
16. Ganondorf (new design influenced by Demise)
17. Tingle *NEW* (is his own series, Tingle Series)
18. Kirby
19. King DeDeDe
20. Meta Knight
21. Yarn Kirby *NEW*
22. Donkey Kong
23. Diddy Kong
24. King K. Rool *NEW*
25. Samus
26. Zero Suit Samus
27. Ridley *NEW*
28. Pit
29. Dark Pit *NEW*
30. Medusa *NEW*
31. Fox
32. Falco
33. Wolf
34. Marth
35. Ike
36. Roy *RETURN*
37. Ness
38. Lucas
39. Yoshi
40. Wario
41. Ice Climbers
42. R.O.B
43. Mr. Game and Watch
44. Captain Olimar
45. Captain Falcon
46. Toon Link
47. Takamaru *NEW* (Nazo no Murasame Jo)
48. Little Mac *NEW* (Punch Out!)
49. Shulk *NEW* (Xenoblade)
50. Barbara Bat *NEW* (Band Brothers)
51. Dillon *NEW* (Rolling Western)
52. Sonic
53. Pac-Man *NEW* (Namco)
54. Mega Man *NEW* (Capcom)
55. Bomberman *NEW* (Konami)
56. Bayonetta *NEW* (Platinum Games)
Assist Trophies
1. Denpa Men (The Denpa Men)
2. Mallo (Pushmo)
3. Bugsy (Kirby Series)
4. Riki (Xenoblade)
5. Boom-Boom (Mario Series)
6. Pak-E-Derm (Yoshi Series)
7. Proto Man (Mega Man Series)
8. Tails (Sonic Series)
9. Doshin (Doshin the Giant)
10. Chibi Robo (Chibi Robo)
Pokeballs
1. Sylveon
2. Sableye X/Y Evolution
3. Probopass
4. Throh
5. Stunfisk
6. Gurdurr
7. Victini
8. Audino
9. Absol
10. Dunsparce
Stages
1. Plasma Frigate (Pokemon Black 2 and White 2)
2. Bowser's Castle (Mario Series)
3. Skyloft (Skyward Sword)
4. Bottle Ship (Metroid Other M)
5. Diamond City (WarioWare Series)
6. Great Cave Offensive (Kirby Series)
7. New Hyrule, atop the Spirit Track Train (Spirit Tracks)
8. Castle Murasame (Nazo no Murasame Jo)
Items
1. Baby Yoshi (Super Mario World)
2. Jump Mat (Kid Icarus Uprising)
3. Tanuki Leaf (Mario 3)
4. Whip (Skyward Sword)
5. Blue Shell (Mario Kart)
Watch Da Birdie's Watch Dat Smash Brothers 4 Roster Prediction
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Paper Mario *NEW*
6. Pikachu
7. Pokemon Trainer - Squirtle
8. Pokemon Trainer - Ivysaur
9. Pokemon Trainer - Charizard
10. Jigglypuff
11. Mewtwo *RETURN*
12. Genesect *NEW*
13. Link (Skyward Sword appearance)
14. Zelda (Skyward Sword appearance)
15. Sheik (new design influenced by SS Impa)
16. Ganondorf (new design influenced by Demise)
17. Tingle *NEW* (is his own series, Tingle Series)
18. Kirby
19. King DeDeDe
20. Meta Knight
21. Yarn Kirby *NEW*
22. Donkey Kong
23. Diddy Kong
24. King K. Rool *NEW*
25. Samus
26. Zero Suit Samus
27. Ridley *NEW*
28. Pit
29. Dark Pit *NEW*
30. Medusa *NEW*
31. Fox
32. Falco
33. Wolf
34. Marth
35. Ike
36. Roy *RETURN*
37. Ness
38. Lucas
39. Yoshi
40. Wario
41. Ice Climbers
42. R.O.B
43. Mr. Game and Watch
44. Captain Olimar
45. Captain Falcon
46. Toon Link
47. Takamaru *NEW* (Nazo no Murasame Jo)
48. Little Mac *NEW* (Punch Out!)
49. Shulk *NEW* (Xenoblade)
50. Barbara Bat *NEW* (Band Brothers)
51. Dillon *NEW* (Rolling Western)
52. Sonic
53. Pac-Man *NEW* (Namco)
54. Mega Man *NEW* (Capcom)
55. Bomberman *NEW* (Konami)
56. Bayonetta *NEW* (Platinum Games)
Assist Trophies
1. Denpa Men (The Denpa Men)
2. Mallo (Pushmo)
3. Bugsy (Kirby Series)
4. Riki (Xenoblade)
5. Boom-Boom (Mario Series)
6. Pak-E-Derm (Yoshi Series)
7. Proto Man (Mega Man Series)
8. Tails (Sonic Series)
9. Doshin (Doshin the Giant)
10. Chibi Robo (Chibi Robo)
Pokeballs
1. Sylveon
2. Sableye X/Y Evolution
3. Probopass
4. Throh
5. Stunfisk
6. Gurdurr
7. Victini
8. Audino
9. Absol
10. Dunsparce
Stages
1. Plasma Frigate (Pokemon Black 2 and White 2)
2. Bowser's Castle (Mario Series)
3. Skyloft (Skyward Sword)
4. Bottle Ship (Metroid Other M)
5. Diamond City (WarioWare Series)
6. Great Cave Offensive (Kirby Series)
7. New Hyrule, atop the Spirit Track Train (Spirit Tracks)
8. Castle Murasame (Nazo no Murasame Jo)
Items
1. Baby Yoshi (Super Mario World)
2. Jump Mat (Kid Icarus Uprising)
3. Tanuki Leaf (Mario 3)
4. Whip (Skyward Sword)
5. Blue Shell (Mario Kart)
Character Count: 52
Characters
Characters
- Mario
- Luigi
- Peach
- Bowser
- Bowser Jr.
- Donkey Kong
- Diddy Kong
- Dixie Kong
- Wario
- Yoshi
- Link
- Zelda (Sheik)
- Ganondorf
- Toon Link
- Ghirahim
- Samus (Zero Suit Samus)
- Ridley
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Ice Climbers
- R.O.B.
- Pit
- Palutena
- Captain Olimar
- Pikmin 3 Captain
- Shulk
- Kirby
- Meta Knight
- King Dedede
- Prince Fluff
- Captain Falcon
- Fox
- Falco
- Wolf
- Ness
- Little Mac
- Pikachu
- Jigglypuff
- Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle|Ivysaur|Charizard)
- Mewtwo
- Lucario
- Marth (Lucina)
- Chrom
- Takamaru
- The Wonderful 101 Character
- Sonic
- Snake
- Mega Man
- Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western)
- Mallo (Pushmo/Crashmo)
- Tempo (Harmoknight)
- Eggplant Wizard (Kid Icarus)
- Kamek (Super Mario)
- Hades (Kid Icarus)
- Sakura Samurai (Sakurai Samurai)
- Polterpup (Luigi's Mansion)
- Monita (NintendoLand)
- Denpa Men (Denpa Men)
- Victini
- Pokemon X/Y "cute" legendary
- Meloetta
- Fennekin
- Oshawott
- Chespin
- Landorus
- Yveltal
- Xerneas
- Keldeo
- Starship Mario (Super Mario Galaxy)
- Skyloft (Zelda: Skyward Sword)
- NintendoLand Plaza (Nintendo Land)
- N's Castle (Pokemon Black/White)
- Mechonis Arm/Fallen Arm (Xenoblade)
- Lor Starcutter (Kirby Return to Dreamland)
- New Super Mario Bros stage (NSMB)
- Wuhu Island (Wii _____)
- Blue Shell (Mario Kart)
- Super Leaf (Super Mario 3D Land)
- Back Shield (Kid Icarus Uprising)
- Tempura Bomb (Kid Icarus Uprising)
- Treasure Chest/Mimicutie (Kid Icarus Uprising)
MasterCheeze
Member
Characters 50
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Yoshi
5. Bowser
6. Bowser Jr.
7. Wario
8. Waluigi
9. Donkey Kong
10. Diddy Kong
11. King K. Rool
12. Link
13. Toon Link
14. Zelda
15. Shiek
16. Ganondorf
17. Ghirahim
18. Pikachu
19. Jigglypuff
20. Zoroark
21. Mewtwo's New Form
22. Kirby
23. Metaknight
24. King DeDeDe
25. Samus
26. Zero Suit Samus
27. Ridley
28. Fox
29. Falco
30. Krystal
31. Wolf
32. Captain Falcon
33. Black Shadow
34. Ness
35. Lucas
36. Marth
37. Ike
38. Chrom
39. Pit
40. Medusa
41. Olimar
42. Little Mac
43. Mii
44. R.O.B.
45. Ice Climbers
46. Mr. Game & Watch
47. Sonic
48. Snake
49. Megaman
50. Shulk
Assist Trophies
1. Bayonetta
2. Birdo
3. Kamek
4. Mallo (Pushmo)
5. Matthew
6. Pac-Man
7. Professor Layton
8. Rosalina
9. Tempo
10. Travis Touchdown
Pokemon
1. Arceus
2. Victini
3. Reshiram
4. Zekrom
5. Kyurem
6. Genesect
7. Keldeo
8. Sylveon
9. Xerneas
10. Yveltal
Stages
1. Nintendo Land
2. N's Castle
3. Pikmin 3 Stage
4. Punch-Out!! Boxing Arena
5. Skyloft
6. Tetris Stage
7. Underworld
8. Yarn Yoshi's Island
Items
1. Blue Shell (Mario Kart)
2. Palutena Bow
3. Propeller Mushroom
4. Super Leaf
5. Whip (Skyward Sword)
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Yoshi
5. Bowser
6. Bowser Jr.
7. Wario
8. Waluigi
9. Donkey Kong
10. Diddy Kong
11. King K. Rool
12. Link
13. Toon Link
14. Zelda
15. Shiek
16. Ganondorf
17. Ghirahim
18. Pikachu
19. Jigglypuff
20. Zoroark
21. Mewtwo's New Form
22. Kirby
23. Metaknight
24. King DeDeDe
25. Samus
26. Zero Suit Samus
27. Ridley
28. Fox
29. Falco
30. Krystal
31. Wolf
32. Captain Falcon
33. Black Shadow
34. Ness
35. Lucas
36. Marth
37. Ike
38. Chrom
39. Pit
40. Medusa
41. Olimar
42. Little Mac
43. Mii
44. R.O.B.
45. Ice Climbers
46. Mr. Game & Watch
47. Sonic
48. Snake
49. Megaman
50. Shulk
Assist Trophies
1. Bayonetta
2. Birdo
3. Kamek
4. Mallo (Pushmo)
5. Matthew
6. Pac-Man
7. Professor Layton
8. Rosalina
9. Tempo
10. Travis Touchdown
Pokemon
1. Arceus
2. Victini
3. Reshiram
4. Zekrom
5. Kyurem
6. Genesect
7. Keldeo
8. Sylveon
9. Xerneas
10. Yveltal
Stages
1. Nintendo Land
2. N's Castle
3. Pikmin 3 Stage
4. Punch-Out!! Boxing Arena
5. Skyloft
6. Tetris Stage
7. Underworld
8. Yarn Yoshi's Island
Items
1. Blue Shell (Mario Kart)
2. Palutena Bow
3. Propeller Mushroom
4. Super Leaf
5. Whip (Skyward Sword)
Green Mamba
Member
I'm trying to think if Neiteio's roster would even fit on that SSB roster making thing.
I suppose if you're going to dream, then dream big...
Anyway, I thought I aught to share my roster in graphic form because I finally got that program to work for me and I wanted to try out an arrangement.
Maybe too wide? I don't know, it was kinda fun trying to fit it all into something passable. Good work out for OCD skills.
I suppose if you're going to dream, then dream big...
Anyway, I thought I aught to share my roster in graphic form because I finally got that program to work for me and I wanted to try out an arrangement.
Maybe too wide? I don't know, it was kinda fun trying to fit it all into something passable. Good work out for OCD skills.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm trying to think if Neiteio's roster would even fit on that SSB roster making thing.
I suppose if you're going to dream, then dream big...
Anyway, I thought I aught to share my roster in graphic form because I finally got that program to work for me and I wanted to try out an arrangement.
Maybe too wide? I don't know, it was kinda fun trying to fit it all into something passable. Good work out for OCD skills.
It look great.
Edited: I meant it's in perfect wide, and casts look reasonable at the moment.
Green Mamba
Member
"At the moment" is of course the key phrase. These things can change on a whim; new game announcements always bring in new speculation (though this has died down as of late as most people should realize that the roster is likely already finalized).
Plus one has to wonder what game changing stuff is coming with the game's final reveal at E3--I mean, consider what people would have thought if you had put Snake on your SSB3 roster pre-Brawl reveal!
Not that anyone did, which kind of adds to my point. Who knows what unknowns await us in the coming month?
I'm excited!
Plus one has to wonder what game changing stuff is coming with the game's final reveal at E3--I mean, consider what people would have thought if you had put Snake on your SSB3 roster pre-Brawl reveal!
Not that anyone did, which kind of adds to my point. Who knows what unknowns await us in the coming month?
I'm excited!
this was started in the main thread but I feel this needs to put in here as well after seeing what others have chosen for their roster prediction.
and to add to that roy and rob just needs to be replaced with someone else I don't mind the characters being there but the way they were handled in the game just made them feel useless to me.
I like ROB but I think he needs some tweaks... His final smash is really underwhelming for one. I don't mind the lasers and stuff though.
Maybe they could incorporate more NES peripherals with him, like the zapper. Unless Duck Hunt Dog gets in and uses it. Which would be pretty sweet.
Maybe they could incorporate more NES peripherals with him, like the zapper. Unless Duck Hunt Dog gets in and uses it. Which would be pretty sweet.
Ike, Zero Suit Samus, Snake, Lucario, Jigglypuff can go
Ganondorf, Falco, Wolf, Luigi, Lucas need to stop being clones, Zelda/Sheik needs to be more like the Melee version again. Toon Link (my main) should be less similar to Link, Pokemon Trainer requires an overhaul with new Pokemon and I'm not really a fan of Olimar's current form
Ganondorf, Falco, Wolf, Luigi, Lucas need to stop being clones, Zelda/Sheik needs to be more like the Melee version again. Toon Link (my main) should be less similar to Link, Pokemon Trainer requires an overhaul with new Pokemon and I'm not really a fan of Olimar's current form
Roster(45):
Returning
-Mario
-Luigi
-Princess Peach
-Bowser
-Donkey Kong
-Diddy Kong
-Yoshi
-Wario
-Link
-Princess Zelda / Sheik
-Ganondorf
-Toon Link
-Samus / Zero Suit Samus
-Pit
-Ice Climbers
-Kirby
-Metaknight
-Olimar
-Fox
-Falco
-Wolf
-Captain Falcon
-Pikachu
-Lucario
-Pokemon Trainer
-Jigglypuff
-Marth
-Ike
-Ness
-Lucas
-R.O.B
-Mr. Game & Watch
-Snake
-Sonic
(That's right, everyone from Brawl)
Newcomers
-Palutena
-Hades
-Shulk
-Zoroark
-Chrom
-Lucina
-Waluigi
-King K Rool
-Ridley
-Masked Man
will edit soon
Returning
-Mario
-Luigi
-Princess Peach
-Bowser
-Donkey Kong
-Diddy Kong
-Yoshi
-Wario
-Link
-Princess Zelda / Sheik
-Ganondorf
-Toon Link
-Samus / Zero Suit Samus
-Pit
-Ice Climbers
-Kirby
-Metaknight
-Olimar
-Fox
-Falco
-Wolf
-Captain Falcon
-Pikachu
-Lucario
-Pokemon Trainer
-Jigglypuff
-Marth
-Ike
-Ness
-Lucas
-R.O.B
-Mr. Game & Watch
-Snake
-Sonic
(That's right, everyone from Brawl)
Newcomers
-Palutena
-Hades
-Shulk
-Zoroark
-Chrom
-Lucina
-Waluigi
-King K Rool
-Ridley
-Masked Man
will edit soon
Posting this here since it can be related to Smash. Thanks to YoshiRider123 for posting this in this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555462
As people have said in that thread, it is looking likely Takamaru will show up.
As people have said in that thread, it is looking likely Takamaru will show up.
astarisborn94
Member
Xenoblade is almost certainly getting a rep at this point. Shulk is highly requested to be in the next Smash and seems to be the Earthbound of this generation. I'd be surprised if Shulk was left out.
Yeah, I think Xenoblade will get some kind of representation, but I'm unsure if Shulk will be a character. I'll probably add him to my list eventually.
edit: And if Takamaru's game releases in the west, I'd say he's a really safe bet. I'm already expecting him because of Nintendoland.
edit: And if Takamaru's game releases in the west, I'd say he's a really safe bet. I'm already expecting him because of Nintendoland.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Hm, I need to look into this.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That's really awesome news and He's already on my list ever since Brawl era, along with Duck Hunt Dog.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Takamaru is like the first and solid character on my list.
Like, the one I expect to pop up in the E3 Trailer.
Anyway, I've been tossing this idea around, although I left it off my list...how do you think a realistic way to incorporate a playable Eevee that can shift between its 8 Forms would work? That'd be pretty cool if it shifted between Forms for its different attacks, even if it can't necessarily do that in the actual Pokemon games. I thought of this since Eevee is getting a ton of spotlight lately, even before Sylveon popped up.
Like, the one I expect to pop up in the E3 Trailer.
Anyway, I've been tossing this idea around, although I left it off my list...how do you think a realistic way to incorporate a playable Eevee that can shift between its 8 Forms would work? That'd be pretty cool if it shifted between Forms for its different attacks, even if it can't necessarily do that in the actual Pokemon games. I thought of this since Eevee is getting a ton of spotlight lately, even before Sylveon popped up.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
are you one that posted that idea long time ago right?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I don't think so?
DICKS AHOY
Banned
did a quick mockup of how Neiteio's roster would look in-game:
looks pretty conservative if you ask me
looks pretty conservative if you ask me
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Ah, it was Ryce.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46127344&postcount=12611
I don't recalled that duck hunt dog was on his playable character list.
astarisborn94
Member
One month before the deadline...
What characters do you see being at E3 this year? Assuming that we get five characters, here's my prediction:
- Ridley
- Palutena
- Takamaru
- Little Mac
- Mega Man (if we get a third-party character)
What characters do you see being at E3 this year? Assuming that we get five characters, here's my prediction:
- Ridley
- Palutena
- Takamaru
- Little Mac
- Mega Man (if we get a third-party character)
I'd go as far as to say that Mewtwo, King K. Rool, Ridley, Takamaru, Little Mac, Palutena and Shulk are all good bets for the next game. I'd be surprised to see the final roster miss out on even one of them.
That's close to what I'd say. Some obvious ones (Ridley, Palutena), a retro revival (Takamaru), maybe a character with a twist (Mewtwo/Newtwo), and a third-party to get people extra hyped (Mega Man).
DICKS AHOY
Banned
On a serious note made a revision to my previous roster prediction based on the increasing liklihood Takamaru will make a major comeback with this game:
Mr. Game & Watch
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Geno (Meh, gonna take a random guess but I *do* think a 5th Mario rep is going to happen)
DK
Diddy Kong
K. Rool
Yoshi
Wario
Little Mac
Ice Climbers
R.O.B.
Link
Zelda/Impa
Demise/Ganondorf
Toon Link
Tingle
Takamaru
Samus/Zamus
Ridley
Pit
Palutena
Ness
Lucas
Marth
Ike
Chrom
Captain Falcon
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Pokemon Trainer
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo
Lucario
No clue, but obviously there'll be a 'new' Pokemon
Captain Olimar
Shulk
Mega Man
Snake
Sonic
Bayonetta
48 characters, 52 including transformations.
Goroh even though I'd love to be wrong is taken out to accommodate the more likely samurai, while Pac-man is knocked out to keep numbers even. Co-developing the game doesn't guarantee you a character slot after all, and I see Mega Man getting in via fan support. He apparently keeps topping character polls in Japan? Also Bayonetta I see being one of the game's 'surprise'-ish characters.
Also took a stab at the 5th new Mario rep being Geno, even though realistically I have no clue who it'll be. I see Demise/TP Ganondorf/OoT Ganondorf being interchangeable idendities, so ignore the fact Demise is 'replacing' Ganondorf beyond me wanting him unlocked from the start for once. Also decided to take out Dixie being added to Diddy's moveset after thinking about it, even if she was planned for Brawl.
Going off the Brawl reveal trailer's template, in order of appearance:
Ridley = Metaknight (antagonist from a veteran franchise long overdue)
Takamaru = Pit (retro one-off long requested, or at least in Japan)
Palutena = Zamus (New chick for a pre-repped series)
Little Mac = Wario (Really iconic Nintendo character people expected since the first game)
Bayonetta = Snake ('Surprise' 3rd party guest nobody expected to be in a Nintendo crossover game)
Mr. Game & Watch
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Geno (Meh, gonna take a random guess but I *do* think a 5th Mario rep is going to happen)
DK
Diddy Kong
K. Rool
Yoshi
Wario
Little Mac
Ice Climbers
R.O.B.
Link
Zelda/Impa
Demise/Ganondorf
Toon Link
Tingle
Takamaru
Samus/Zamus
Ridley
Pit
Palutena
Ness
Lucas
Marth
Ike
Chrom
Captain Falcon
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Fox
Falco
Wolf
Pokemon Trainer
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Mewtwo
Lucario
No clue, but obviously there'll be a 'new' Pokemon
Captain Olimar
Shulk
Mega Man
Snake
Sonic
Bayonetta
48 characters, 52 including transformations.
Goroh even though I'd love to be wrong is taken out to accommodate the more likely samurai, while Pac-man is knocked out to keep numbers even. Co-developing the game doesn't guarantee you a character slot after all, and I see Mega Man getting in via fan support. He apparently keeps topping character polls in Japan? Also Bayonetta I see being one of the game's 'surprise'-ish characters.
Also took a stab at the 5th new Mario rep being Geno, even though realistically I have no clue who it'll be. I see Demise/TP Ganondorf/OoT Ganondorf being interchangeable idendities, so ignore the fact Demise is 'replacing' Ganondorf beyond me wanting him unlocked from the start for once. Also decided to take out Dixie being added to Diddy's moveset after thinking about it, even if she was planned for Brawl.
Going off the Brawl reveal trailer's template, in order of appearance:
Ridley = Metaknight (antagonist from a veteran franchise long overdue)
Takamaru = Pit (retro one-off long requested, or at least in Japan)
Palutena = Zamus (New chick for a pre-repped series)
Little Mac = Wario (Really iconic Nintendo character people expected since the first game)
Bayonetta = Snake ('Surprise' 3rd party guest nobody expected to be in a Nintendo crossover game)
TheRedSnifit
Member
Anybody else hope that we get to switch between K. Rools?
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I'm banking on costumes for just about everyone really. Especially for K. Rool considering his identity crisis/multiple-personality disorder being part of why I like him!
If not, I'd take pirate K. Rool over the others any day of the week.Anybody else hope that we get to switch between K. Rools?
What characters don't matter to us doesn't mean they don't matter to Sakurai and the team. From how he figures out who to put in and when- I could easily see a bunch of cuts.
- Jigglypuff hasn't been relevant in years.
- Earthbound with both Ness & Lucas seems strange when bigger games don't have 2 characters (and the series is basically dead in the water, so why even have a rep?)
- R.O.B. may be replaced by a character representing that era that is upcoming
- Ike is one of many FE characters. Newer games = newer characters.
- Lucario isn't relevant much anymore
- Sheik hasn't been in an actual Zelda game in years
- Zero Suit Samus (I believe) was an attempt to balance Samus' final smash.
- Snake was only requested to be in a Smash game once, not necessarily continue to be in the series
- Star Fox w/ 3 characters that all play the same (Wolf I would say is more likely to be cut)
But who is to say Zelda won't get cut because SS Zelda doesn't work in Sakurai's mind? King Dedede or Meta Knight could be cut if Sakurai thinks Kirby is over-represented. Ice Climbers and Mr. G&W could be out for other characters of that era. Pokemon Trainer could be out to focus on new Poke-reps. Maybe Sega doesn't want Sonic in the game now. And why have an F-Zero character when that series isn't even big anymore?
The potential shake up of this game in character roster is huge. The potential cutting of 9-20 characters (that 20 includes transforms and all 3 Poke-Trainer's mon) would free up the game for a bunch of new characters from different series.
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Mewtwo will probably be unconfirmed until the game release, but an E3 2013 Mewtwo reveal would be epic.SmithnCo said:
This, so much this. One of the most unique things about King K. Rool is his disguises. Makes me want to see a game with King K. Rool under a new disguise again.TheRedSnifit said:
@kirby_fox: You're putting way too much emphasis on recentness when we have zero evidence supporting that Sakurai considers recentness as a deciding factor on recurring franchise and debatable at best evidence for recentness on non-recurring franchises (Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Mother). I also highly doubt we will see more than two cuts and am confident that three will be the most we get. It's very possible that we may not even get any cuts this time around given that large back lash surrounding Mewtwo's cut (and to a lesser extent, Roy) and that the majority of Brawl's cut (Dr. Mario, Roy, Mewtwo) were planned to return.
In my suggested lineup, I proposed making Kaptain the default, since he's most interesting visually. Sort of like Wario defaulting to his WarioWare costume. You'd still have King available as an alternate skin. They'd both wield the blunderbuss (pirate gun), a weapon both could've used back in the days of kings and pirates. Only their headwear-throwing attack would change (a thrown crown for King, a thrown pirate hat for Kaptain). As for Baron K. Roolenstein, perhaps he could be a skin, as well, but he'd lend himself better to your three-in-one idea, since his ability to fly would drastically change his moveset.Anybody else hope that we get to switch between K. Rools?
Switching gears to Fire Emblem for a moment... I've already advocated Chrom, Lucina, and Tharja, but you know who would really make a lot of sense?
Anna the merchant, a staple of the Fire Emblem series who finally became playable in Awakening (with the premise that she's one of countless identical sisters and cousins, much like Nurse Joy or Officer Jenny in the Pokémon cartoon). She could fight like a fencer and smash attack with a sack o' gold!
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