The Play and charge kit is now Li-On as far as I know, so no, it should be a huge upgrade.
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CVG: Xbox 360 controller vs. Xbox One controller
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The Play and charge kit is now Li-On as far as I know, so no, it should be a huge upgrade.
They're fine for auxiliary tasks like switching grenade types or something, but otherwise I'd prefer normal buttons. Very minor complaint anyways.
goldenpp72
Member
Most people play fighters on a pad actually, unless you mean 'real players' in that condescending way, but when fighters sell 2-3 million units, very few in the overall buy fighter sticks
they are fairly close to SNES, just wish they were a little more low profile but ehhhh
they are very functional for fighters from what i've used (as I tend to favour HK)
Coming to my PC in 2014!
Seriously, the 3 complaints I had with the 360 controller are all fixed it seems.
D-pad
Face buttons poked out too much (I prefer playstation or nintendo face buttons, more flat and comfortable for me)
Removal of the battery pack. I don't know about you guys, but the battery pack always gave me problems with random disconnections when playing (especially with vibration). Turns out the metal prong doesn't always make contact with the controller. I played wired now to avoid this.
Seriously, the 3 complaints I had with the 360 controller are all fixed it seems.
D-pad
Face buttons poked out too much (I prefer playstation or nintendo face buttons, more flat and comfortable for me)
Removal of the battery pack. I don't know about you guys, but the battery pack always gave me problems with random disconnections when playing (especially with vibration). Turns out the metal prong doesn't always make contact with the controller. I played wired now to avoid this.
Lion Heart
Banned
Thats amazing.
After playing with it at Comic-Con, I'm in love with it, too.
I seriously can't wait to use it all the time. It's going to be my favorite part about next gen.
Syphon Filter
Member
If this is that guys job, he is bad, bad at it... actually, i often think that about others in gaming. He said that the position of the buttons (x,y,a,b) was the same and, the first thing that i thought about the controller after seeing it was " the buttons are closer, CLOSER!!! thank god, that was horrible before". I saw that without having the controller on my hands, like he does. And probably many people here saw that too. I still dont know why the position of the face buttons was soooooo bad on the 360...
I've been reading through hands-on impressions of both controllers lately and I keep seeing stuff like this:
http://gengame.net/2013/06/next-gen-face-off-dualshock-4-vs-xbox-one-controller/
I hope it's not as bad as people have made it out to seem because I'd like to use this controller on PC.
http://gengame.net/2013/06/next-gen-face-off-dualshock-4-vs-xbox-one-controller/
I hope it's not as bad as people have made it out to seem because I'd like to use this controller on PC.
Patrick Klepek and a few other journo's had similar complaints. Widening the triggers, and having them sit more flush with the ergonomics of the controller itself probably wasn't the best idea. Great for actual ergonomics, probably not so much for actual functionality. We shall see.
Simply Sami
Member
Not trolling. But quite a few people who have used both controllers prefer the PS4 controller.
Duxxy3
Member
My biggest complaint with LB/RB is when they are used as modifier buttons like in the devil may cry games, or in darksiders.
compelling use of citation
Garrett 2U
Member
Shweet, this is an Xbox 360 vs Xbox One comparison thread. Maybe we could keep console wars out of it?
People that prefered dualshock in the first place? The form factors are still roughly the same, I don't see how/why the PS4 controller would suddenly become top dog.
More people who preferred the 360 pad if anything. I think the DS4s main advantages will be better triggers and shoulder buttons (irrespective of impulse), a better d-pad, lighter weight and the touch pad. I think in most other respects they're going to be pretty even.
Alx
Member
Neither have I. But for a device where people can nitpick about any element, from button placement to spring rigidity, stick texture or whether there should be letters or symbols on the buttons, I suppose that each detail counts.
At least you tried.
They were? The pad is designed so your fingers naturally sit over the triggers. Moving from that position to the bumpers requires loosening your grip or an uncomfortable finger rotation that just isn't tenable.
I never got how people could palm grip a 360 pad. It's just too small to be held comfortably that way without your thumbs overshooting the analogue sticks or making the bumpers out of place. I hold my 360 pad the same way I hold a DS3 because it's useless otherwise.
matrix-cat
Member
Bit of a useless video, since it sounds like they haven't actually played any games with the controller, but it sure seems like it feels nice. The problem with the 360's D-pad for me wasn't anything to do with the shape, it was that it would frequently register the opposite direction I pressed when I was trying to switch weapons with it. I do wish they'd replace the bumpers with regular buttons, like L1 and R1 on a Dual Shock, but other than that it looks great.
That had to do with how raised and mushy the dpad was. Recessed and clickier should hopefully translate to a dpad that actually registers what direction you want to push.
Totally agree on making the bumpers more like the dualshock's shoulder buttons. They work so well I don't see why MS can't just straight up copy them. There's seriously no shame in it whatsoever.
I've always thought the 360 controller was overrated -- the DS3's shortcomings are partially responsible for that. The new controller seems to have addressed the four big issues for me: uncomfortable face buttons that stick, uneven weight across the controller, external battery pack, and the materials surrounding the outer edge of the sticks. I'm not sure how the DS4 would match functionally, but there is no doubt that this is a much more elegant looking controller.
John Caboose
Member
Well that's the thing, you can't compare it to something that doesn't exist. People (including me) have been saying that the 360 controller is the best out there because it is. Now that the Xbox One controller is coming out that is most likely no longer true. It has been true for 8 years though.. Heck the DS4 might be better too. It'll be interesting to compare them all when I eventually have both next-gen consoles.
Synth_floyd
Banned
Best controller ever?
But yeah having internal rechargable batteries like the PS3 would be better. You can play with it plugged in while the batteries are charging and play wirelessly when they're full. But looks like with this you can still play wired so it's not really that big of a difference.
But yeah having internal rechargable batteries like the PS3 would be better. You can play with it plugged in while the batteries are charging and play wirelessly when they're full. But looks like with this you can still play wired so it's not really that big of a difference.
Night Hunter
Banned
Oh my god this thing looks good. Shame I won't be using it until 2016.
Risk Breaker
Member
Dem bumpers...
Are all your opinions this objectively wrong?
I used a DS3 to play Gears PC. It was much better.
iceatcs
Junior Member
This. I was so annoying I can't do walk but run, that required for stealth level.
You had to stretch really hard to find some negatives here didn't ya lol. You are entertaining to say the least but are also definitely returning to your console warrior mentality you had years ago on IGN. Thats both sad and weird that I actually remember your name from back then and the fact that you're still playing the superfan role.
velociraptor
Junior Member
I already have the 360 controller but I'll pick this up if it turns out to be the defacto PC control pad.
The face buttons, d-pad and bumper buttons are atrocious on the current 360 pad. Hopefully the new controller will improve on those.
The face buttons, d-pad and bumper buttons are atrocious on the current 360 pad. Hopefully the new controller will improve on those.
Captain Tuttle
Member
I love the detail this dude goes into, his DS4 video was the same.
Wonderful pad
Wonderful pad
R3TRODYCE
Member
IGN! That's where I've seen Nib! He was the dude with the pill icon! Good times, good times.
Back on topic, In the video they had good a good choice of batteries in the controller; I wonder if the retail model will use those.
Are all your opinions this objectively wrong?
I used a DS3 to play Gears PC. It was much better.
dem triggers.
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Here you go, maybe this could be added to the OP:
D-pad: "genuinely feels fantastic" "lowered, very flush" "far more defined" "amazing click feel" "can slide thumb around it" "very defined where you are, there's no ambiguity to what part of the d-pad you're pressing" "very comfortable"
Weight: "slightly heavier, noticeably I suppose but not so much that you would complain" "slight hollowness to [360 controller], you can definitely tell there's space inside the pad, with the Xbox One controller you don't actually feel that, it feels very solid, the weight feels well balanced"
Battery: "battery pack has disappeared" "extra space on the back which makes things less crowded, it's far more comfortable"
Screw holes: "the Xbox One controller has none of that" "you actually do realise what a difference it makes"
Triggers: "dampened at the base so when you press it down there is no click sound to it" "greater sense of quality to it" "slight tweaks, definitely improvements" "haven't been able to test out the rumble just yet, I'm told it's spectacular, there's impulse triggers and that affects the entire pad, it's far more nuanced"
Shoulder buttons: "widened a little bit" "not much difference, slight bit more resistance to it, not too much"
Analogue sticks: "a little bit taller" "a little bit more pivot" "feel a little bit looser" "minor, minor tweak" "slightly less resistance" "slightly more control" "around the rim there is soft plastic" "definite grip around the sides" "when it comes to pressing in there is absolutely no difference"
Face buttons: "they're in the same position" "less protrusion" "works really well, slightly softer" "less rickety" "flatter, more flush, they're slightly more comfortable"
Micro USB port: "when you stick a USB wire into the controller it goes into wired mode, the radio shuts down and apparently it's a true wired mode connection"
Guide button light: "lights up a bit more subtley" "it doesn't stick out as much" "the light is far softer"
Summary: "if you think the Xbox 360 pad is the best out there, then you're looking at something which is now the best out there, the Xbox One controller is better than the Xbox 360 pad pretty much in every single way" "d-pad significantly better" "triggers much better" "tweaks here and there, it's far more comfortable" "if you do get an Xbox One, I think you're going to be very happy with the controller"