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WastingPenguins · Oct 11, 2007

ant1532 said:
Let's take it back real quick and talk about are Smash Melee ways. Who do you main as and list your secondary characters if you have any. And do you play at tourney level?(Can you compete with kids at Smashboards, etc)

1.Samus (Main)
2.Ness
3.Link
4.Mario

I play at a pretty high level. Two of my friends from home are really big in the smash scene. In fact, one of them is among the best Ganon players in the country, and the other is arguably the best Sheik, and top 5 Luigis. No kidding.

Anyway, those guys destroy me if we get some serious matches going, but I'm good enough to keep things interesting, which is saying something.

Mains:
1. Ganon- Ganon is my favorite character to play as, bar none. And after a few years training with those friends, my Ganon is quick. For reals.
2. Falco- Because lasers and shine combos are fun, and I need someone to fall back on when I realize that Ganon is a slow piece of shit. If I'm playing to WIN, Falco's my man.
3. Bowser- My love for Bowser probably stems from my love of Ganon. I like the heavy-hitters. Also, it's fun to surprise people who have never seen a good Bowser. He's probably third in line as far as play-time goes, but not for serious matches, because, well. He sucks. A lot.
4. Fox- If you want to be serious about one member of the Starfox crew, you'd better play both of them IMO. Despite their differences, learning techniques for one can help improve your skills with the other. For instance, I couldn't short-hop with Fox for shit at first. Then I started getting serious about Falco, and practiced short-hop-laser a lot. This helped me get my quick-finger movements down, and--miraculously-- I could short-hop with Fox. Actually, a weird development in the last few months: I was practicing double-shl with Fox a lot, and the only way to really pull that off is by sh'ing with the stick. Anyway, I got so good at stick-hopping that now I use it for all my Fox shffl's, and it's sped up my Fox pretty dramatically.
5. Game&Watch- He sucks, a lot, but I love him. Another one of those surprise characters. Not many people have played a good 'Watch.

underfooter · Oct 11, 2007

Delayed until February 10th 2008.

Sharp · Oct 11, 2007

underfooter said:
Delayed until February 10th 2008.

Where'd you get that?

PowWow · Oct 11, 2007

http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577p1.html

Feb 10th, peeps! December '08 for EU, then.

Patrick Klepek · Oct 11, 2007

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163597

Edit: DAMNS, OWNED

Linkhero1 · Oct 11, 2007

PowWow said:
http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577p1.html

Feb 10th, peeps! December '08 for EU, then.

SHIT!!!!!

WastingPenguins · Oct 11, 2007

Sharp said:
Where'd you get that?

IGN's doing a live blog.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577p1.html

February 10 confirmed.

So... will this be tonight's update? I'll be interested to see what Sakurai has to say for himself.

grandjedi6 · Oct 11, 2007

Does this game even have enough updates to last until February?

HisshouBuraiKen · Oct 11, 2007

Delay bitching thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=198189

Y2Kev · Oct 11, 2007

FUCKKKKKK

HolyCheck · Oct 11, 2007

grandjedi6 said:
Does this game even have enough updates to last until February?

sakurai will add 50 more characters just so he does.

GaimeGuy · Oct 11, 2007

"9:16 a.m.: Smash Bros. will have full Wi-Fi multiplayer capabilities. Lots of new levels and many new characters, including Sonic the Hedgehog. A "unique way of sharing between users, even online," according to Iwata -- this relates to some user-created content for the WI-Fi service in relation to Smash Bros., sounds like."

If Smash has a level editor...

best
game
ever

JCX · Oct 11, 2007

ant1532 said:
Let's take it back real quick and talk about are Smash Melee ways. Who do you main as and list your secondary characters if you have any. And do you play at tourney level?(Can you compete with kids at Smashboards, etc)

1.Samus (Main)
2.Ness
3.Link
4.Mario

1.Marth
2.Ice climbers
3.Pikachu
4.Peach

The first tournament I was in I got destroyed since I had never heard of wavedashing until the day before

Linkhero1 · Oct 11, 2007

GaimeGuy said:
"9:16 a.m.: Smash Bros. will have full Wi-Fi multiplayer capabilities. Lots of new levels and many new characters, including Sonic the Hedgehog. A "unique way of sharing between users, even online," according to Iwata -- this relates to some user-created content for the WI-Fi service in relation to Smash Bros., sounds like."

If Smash has a level editor...

best
game
ever

OMG if they delay it for that and Megaman I'd be happy.

PepsimanVsJoe · Oct 11, 2007

I'm shocked people actually thought that the JP delay wouldn't affect the NA release.

Pureauthor · Oct 11, 2007

PepsimanVsJoe said:
I'm shocked people actually thought that the JP delay wouldn't affect the NA release.

I'm more shocked that people are whining about this. It's not like there isn't already too many games this holiday anyway.

GaimeGuy · Oct 11, 2007

WastingPenguins said:
I play at a pretty high level. Two of my friends from home are really big in the smash scene. In fact, one of them is among the best Ganon players in the country, and the other is arguably the best Sheik, and top 5 Luigis. No kidding.

Anyway, those guys destroy me if we get some serious matches going, but I'm good enough to keep things interesting, which is saying something.

Mains:
1. Ganon- Ganon is my favorite character to play as, bar none. And after a few years training with those friends, my Ganon is quick. For reals.
2. Falco- Because lasers and shine combos are fun, and I need someone to fall back on when I realize that Ganon is a slow piece of shit. If I'm playing to WIN, Falco's my man.
3. Bowser- My love for Bowser probably stems from my love of Ganon. I like the heavy-hitters. Also, it's fun to surprise people who have never seen a good Bowser. He's probably third in line as far as play-time goes, but not for serious matches, because, well. He sucks. A lot.
4. Fox- If you want to be serious about one member of the Starfox crew, you'd better play both of them IMO. Despite their differences, learning techniques for one can help improve your skills with the other. For instance, I couldn't short-hop with Fox for shit at first. Then I started getting serious about Falco, and practiced short-hop-laser a lot. This helped me get my quick-finger movements down, and--miraculously-- I could short-hop with Fox. Actually, a weird development in the last few months: I was practicing double-shl with Fox a lot, and the only way to really pull that off is by sh'ing with the stick. Anyway, I got so good at stick-hopping that now I use it for all my Fox shffl's, and it's sped up my Fox pretty dramatically.
5. Game&Watch- He sucks, a lot, but I love him. Another one of those surprise characters. Not many people have played a good 'Watch.

my friend and I play basically pro-level G&Ws. He would be a great character if he wasn't so light, had such a bad shield, and such a horrible roll & dodge.

grandjedi6 · Oct 11, 2007

PepsimanVsJoe said:
I'm shocked people actually thought that the JP delay wouldn't affect the NA release.

We all thought it would but we were thinking more of a early Jan. than Feb :/

Haunted · Oct 11, 2007

So PAL release sometime in 2009? ;_;

&#1057 said:
I have been sleeping for about 15 hours, so if anyone tells me they need a wallpaper, I am just in no mood for their whining.

I'm in no mood!

Oh, stop being such a wuss and do it already. You only need to make it once

before the next character is unveiled.

Dr. McNinja is pretty ace, though.

OliveJuice · Oct 11, 2007

I'm guessing it's delayed to add Megaman, what with MH3 coming to Wii and all. Maybe Nintendo wanted to thank Capcom?

NimbusD · Oct 11, 2007

Hot damned, this has been one hell of a week. When I saw sonic I literally spit out iced tea all over my monitor.

Kinda wish his moves were a bit more varied though, I guess it makes sense to use his moveset from the games but Im having a bit of an issue with his UP B, just seems random that a spring would just pop out, they could have thought of something better to pull out from his catalog of games I think. Or how about, if any ever used to read the sonic comics as a kid (I wonder if they still make those, they were the ish) he used to have a move were when he ran his legs would make like a figure eight streak and he could like hover or fly for a bit using that, I think that would be better.

I really hope there are some cool sonic items in this game, especially items from sonic 3, like the bubble/electric/fire sheilds with the double jump powers included. Or even more random things like in I think it was marble hill zone where there where these conic platforms that hovered and flew when you ran on them in place, that would be sweet. Man sonic would have the best items.

I also hope either tales, knuckles, or Dr. Robotnik make it in (as long as they dont call him eggman...)

God this is awesome, they made him look so cool, Im going to go download sonic 3 from the virtual console.

Oh, I was also thinking, they should add crash bandicoot in, just for the hell of it, cuz it would be funny.

PepsimanVsJoe · Oct 11, 2007

Pureauthor said:
I'm more shocked that people are whining about this. It's not like there isn't already too many games this holiday anyway.

That too.

Raging Spaniard · Oct 11, 2007

9:16 a.m.: Smash Bros. will have full Wi-Fi multiplayer capabilities. Lots of new levels and many new characters, including Sonic the Hedgehog. A "unique way of sharing between users, even online," according to Iwata -- this relates to some user-created content for the WI-Fi service in relation to Smash Bros., sounds like.

I like!

Haunted · Oct 11, 2007

oh, and woah:

A "unique way of sharing between users, even online," according to Iwata -- this relates to some user-created content for the WI-Fi service in relation to Smash Bros., sounds like.

Totally missed this before.

edit: oh man, beaten like Firestorm in a one-on-one with items enabled.

Innotech · Oct 11, 2007

on one hand, awesome, it will allow this game to be mind numbingly perfect. On the other hand...FUCK

ckohler · Oct 11, 2007

GaimeGuy said:
"9:16 a.m.: Smash Bros. will have full Wi-Fi multiplayer capabilities. Lots of new levels and many new characters, including Sonic the Hedgehog. A "unique way of sharing between users, even online," according to Iwata -- this relates to some user-created content for the WI-Fi service in relation to Smash Bros., sounds like."

Trophy/sticker trading?

Raging Spaniard · Oct 11, 2007

Haunted One said:
oh, and woah:

Totally missed this before.

edit: oh man, beaten like Firestorm in a one-on-one with items enabled.

Its OK I still wuvs you

Haunted · Oct 11, 2007

PowWow said:
http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/826/826577p1.html

Feb 10th, peeps! December '08 for EU, then.

wait, what? Did I miss something?

Raging Spaniard said:
Its OK I still wuvs you

<3

Chumly · Oct 11, 2007

Darkpen · Oct 11, 2007

CassSept said:
Did any thread before reach 30k posts?
Also, if youre making avatars, can you make me one of ZSS and Snake ?

EDIT:
changed a bit to look like its a photograph :O (and mainly for a border)

Ramenman · Oct 11, 2007

Lists of characters in the demo at NOA's event :

Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Fox, Pikachu, Diddy Kong, Pit, Meta Knight, Ike, Peach, Yoshi, Sonic, Bowser and a random button

OMG RANDOM BUT... er, sorry.

Samus is in, anyway.

Edit : Game is demoed with classic controller.

Picz :

live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011094316680.jpg

Haunted · Oct 11, 2007

Ramenman said:
Lists of characters in the demo at NOA's event :

OMG RANDOM BUT... er, sorry.

Samus is in, anyway.

I'm following the live blog as well. Sounds like the Wiimote only control scheme is as useless as I imagined. I appreciate the 4 control scheme options Sakurai implemented, but I don't think Wiimote only will be very popular with people.

oh, and GAF's own Kobun Heat is playing the game right now. damn you, Kobun!

Version 3.0 · Oct 11, 2007

February....okay. As long as it IS February. Games that get delayed into Jan/Feb often get further delayed, it's not uncommon for them to release in the next year's holiday season. I can wait a couple of months. A year might turn me into a "videogames make people violent" poster child.

Ramenman · Oct 11, 2007

9:47 a.m.: Link and Sonic are now fighting in the Star Fox level. Wow. The ship is flying through wormholes as you battle. Other craft soar by in the foreground and background. Extremely gorgeous. So clean and amazingly fast with detailed particle effects exploding in every direction. The game is going to be an addiction, plain and simple. Sonic becomes Super Sonic, "which basically means he can just fly around and pummel me at will," explains Nintendo rep.

omgomg

grandjedi6 · Oct 11, 2007

9:47 a.m.: Link and Sonic are now fighting in the Star Fox level. Wow. The ship is flying through wormholes as you battle. Other craft soar by in the foreground and background. Extremely gorgeous. So clean and amazingly fast with detailed particle effects exploding in every direction. The game is going to be an addiction, plain and simple. Sonic becomes Super Sonic, "which basically means he can just fly around and pummel me at will," explains Nintendo rep.

9:46 a.m.: Wii remote held classically simplifies the controls. Move with the D-Pad. Shield attack is mapped to the B-trigger, which takes the most getting used to.

9:44 a.m.: Match is up and running with very little (maybe no) load times. Game is running 60 frames per second and full 480p widescreen. Looks really crisp, clean, sharp. Smash Balls randomly appear on-screen. They'll float around and you'll have to pound on them for awhile before they release their special abilities. This is demonstrated as Samus and Mario duke it out. Samus gains her special ability and blasts Mario with a super shot that fills the entire screen. Afterward, Aran turns into Zero Suit Samus.

Multiple Smash Bals per match confirmed!!

PkunkFury · Oct 11, 2007

yeah Chris Kohler played! now he can sign on and tell us all about WaveDashing

Ramenman · Oct 11, 2007

live-blog-nintendo-media-summit-2007-20071011095550958-000.jpg

Field selection screen.

felipeko · Oct 11, 2007

Leondexter said:
February....okay. As long as it IS February. Games that get delayed into Jan/Feb often get further delayed, it's not uncommon for them to release in the next year's holiday season. I can wait a couple of months. A year might turn me into a "videogames make people violent" poster child.

Sakurai will have to keep updating, i don't think he will have awesomeness for a whole year..

PkunkFury · Oct 11, 2007

A "unique way of sharing between users, even online," according to Iwata -- this relates to some user-created content for the WI-Fi service in relation to Smash Bros., sounds like.

do we know about any user created content in Smash?

Haunted · Oct 11, 2007

PkunkFury said:
yeah Chris Kohler played! now he can sign on and tell us all about WaveDashing

...or the lack thereof.

So you have to beat smash balls before you can use them. Interesting. Can't wait to be the first to get to a smash ball and hit it a few times only to get the unlocked ball snatched away by someone else. >_< It will happen.

Sharp · Oct 11, 2007

Guys, if you want to avoid the wrath of sp0rsk shouldn't you post this in the "demo impressions" thread?

PkunkFury · Oct 11, 2007

Haunted One said:
...or the lack thereof.

So you have to beat smash balls before you can use them. Interesting. Can't wait to be the first to get to a smash ball and hit it a few times only to get the unlocked ball snatched away by someone else. >_< It will happen.

they maybe did this to appease tourney goers. Now, even if it appeears near one player, the other will still have time to react

Sharp said:
Guys, if you want to avoid the wrath of sp0rsk shouldn't you post this in the "demo impressions" thread?

ah srry didn't know there was one, I leave this thread open all day

ShockingAlberto · Oct 11, 2007

There's no reason for it to be even later than the Japanese version.

I was right when I said they wouldn't release Smash and Wii Fit in the same month, but I didn't think they'd reverse it.

SovanJedi · Oct 11, 2007

Hey... just to let you all know:

[17:57] Me: Haha.
[17:57] Artist: Lolol
[17:57] Me: They're all taking yours and Ahuron's pixel art on the NeoGAF forum and turning them into avatars.
[17:57] Artist: I noticed
[17:57] Artist: It's a disease
[17:58] Artist: They spoiled Sonic for me that way
[17:58] Me: Like Pokérus, or a bad kind of disease?
[17:58] Me: Oh! You... didn't know before?
[17:58] Artist: I was trying to stay out of the gaming section
[17:58] Artist: And then there it was
[17:58] Artist: A Sonic sprite by Ahruon in Off Topic
[17:58] Me: Oooh.
[17:59] Me: Well it was hard to miss the announcement anyway, with the Smash Bros. topic title being "SONIC SONIC SONIC" for all of yesterday.
[18:00] Artist: Well I was warned to stay out of the gaming section for a couple of days because of the title
[18:00] Artist: But it didn't help
[18:00] Artist: So now I'm free to roam the forum again
[18:01] Me: ARE YOU though?
[18:02] Me: There's always the chance of Megaman showing up in secret.
[18:02] Me: ;D
[18:02] Artist:
[18:02] Artist: They're spoiling too much

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW? HUH?!

Innotech · Oct 11, 2007

goddamnit. Im not gonna get any sleep until March

Crushed · Oct 11, 2007

SovanJedi said:
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW? HUH?!

Yes, extremely so.

Innotech · Oct 11, 2007

I dont really consider elements of a fighting game to be "spoilers"

Linkhero1 · Oct 11, 2007

Innotech said:
goddamnit. Im not gonna get any sleep until March

Time to hibernate! It'll help trust me =P

grandjedi6 · Oct 11, 2007

SovanJedi said:
Hey... just to let you all know:

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW? HUH?!

What have you done Zeed!?

HolyCheck · Oct 11, 2007

SovanJedi said:
Hey... just to let you all know:

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW? HUH?!

the "Sonic in super smash bros - what are the social implications" or what ever thread in the off topic may have been a give away too :lol

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