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Four characters or bust.
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Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don
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Four characters or bust.
Zeed said:
Crotch matters aside, I'm not going to argue that the Brawl Samus looks like the Metroid Prime Samus, which it doesn't. I just wanted to know *what* the differences were, which is why I asked the question in the first place (wasn't rhetorical).
It obviously shares more in common with the ZM Samus. Going back to the crotch however, there are some screens which suggest that her crotch is smooth as the MP version, and some which suggest that her crotch is as jaggedy -- but not AS huge and jaggedy -- as the Brawl version.
Wrong. The direct quote from the interview is this:
Kensuke Tanabe: Unfortunately, I did not talk with Mr. Sakurai about Metroid Prime 3 at all. If Samus in Super Smash Bros. Brawl uses Hypermode, I will be surprised in various ways.
There's only two Metroid updates on the site (Not counting special moves), and a Norfair confirmation, as well as a Metroid AT confirmation. The Metroid AT is expected, Prime or not Prime. Norfair is expected -- classic Metroid location. I'm guessing that the Prime stage would be a 'bigger' update. So they didn't include it in the demo much like they didn't include Tingle as a playable character.
Tuesdaytons:
May 22nd (site opening) - The Musicians + Battlefield + basic rules
September 18th (100th update) - Wi-Fi Play
Great updates:
October 2nd - Snake movie + Shadow Moses Island stage
Everything else:
Final smash mechanic + Mario's final smash, Poke Balls + Groudon, Yoshi's Island stage, Pikachu's final smash, Legend of Zelda music, Bowser profile, Dr. Wright assist trophy, Deoxys, Yoshi profile, Pitfall item, Ike's moves, Devil assist trophy, Subspace Army movie, Andross assist + special moves mechanic (with Meta Knight's demoed), Diddy Kong's moves, Lyn assist, Diddy Kong's final smash, Kirby's final smash + Wario Ware music
Total update days: 21
Total updates: 28
Shares: 10.7% music, 10.7% stages, 10.7% Smash 101/techniques, 3.6% game modes, 3.6% character movies, 14.3% final smashes, 10.7% Poke Balls, 7.1% veteran characters, 14.3% assist trophies, 3.6% items, 7.1% character moves, 3.6% story mode, 0% newcomers
Clearly the only safe prediction
is a newcomer. But who?
All past and present Smash Bros main characters from a main series (sales-wise):
Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Ganondorf, Fox, Kirby, Samus, Link, Young Link, Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, Pokemon Trainer, Snake, Sonic (48.57%)
All past and present Smash Bros main characters from a secondary series:
Captain Falcon, Ness, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game and Watch, Marth, Roy, Pit, Wario, Ike, Lucas (28.57%)
All past and present Smash Bros secondary characters from a main series:
Falco, Zelda, Sheik, Pichu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Diddy Kong, Meta Knight (22.86%)
All past and present Smash Bros secondary characters from a secondary series:
None (0%)
Safe bet is a Sagi/Milly/Guillo team from Baten Kaitos Origins. You have to rotate them frequently in order to set up relay combos.
May 22nd (site opening) - The Musicians + Battlefield + basic rules
September 18th (100th update) - Wi-Fi Play
Great updates:
October 2nd - Snake movie + Shadow Moses Island stage
Everything else:
Final smash mechanic + Mario's final smash, Poke Balls + Groudon, Yoshi's Island stage, Pikachu's final smash, Legend of Zelda music, Bowser profile, Dr. Wright assist trophy, Deoxys, Yoshi profile, Pitfall item, Ike's moves, Devil assist trophy, Subspace Army movie, Andross assist + special moves mechanic (with Meta Knight's demoed), Diddy Kong's moves, Lyn assist, Diddy Kong's final smash, Kirby's final smash + Wario Ware music
Total update days: 21
Total updates: 28
Shares: 10.7% music, 10.7% stages, 10.7% Smash 101/techniques, 3.6% game modes, 3.6% character movies, 14.3% final smashes, 10.7% Poke Balls, 7.1% veteran characters, 14.3% assist trophies, 3.6% items, 7.1% character moves, 3.6% story mode, 0% newcomers
Clearly the only safe prediction
if I want to become famous by being right against all the odds pointing otherwise
All past and present Smash Bros main characters from a main series (sales-wise):
Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Ganondorf, Fox, Kirby, Samus, Link, Young Link, Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, Pokemon Trainer, Snake, Sonic (48.57%)
All past and present Smash Bros main characters from a secondary series:
Captain Falcon, Ness, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game and Watch, Marth, Roy, Pit, Wario, Ike, Lucas (28.57%)
All past and present Smash Bros secondary characters from a main series:
Falco, Zelda, Sheik, Pichu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Diddy Kong, Meta Knight (22.86%)
All past and present Smash Bros secondary characters from a secondary series:
None (0%)
Safe bet is a Sagi/Milly/Guillo team from Baten Kaitos Origins. You have to rotate them frequently in order to set up relay combos.
Okay, you have a point here. But I read that statement as being indicative of a general lack of communication between the two teams. It certainly doesn't bode well for Prime, and I'll personally be surprised if we see, say, Phenandra Drifts make it in.Scribble said:
Did you count the music update?
A Link to the Past
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Zeed said:
Wiiteos?
AndoCalrissian
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Comments in bold.Zeed said:
The Hermit
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Hey guys remember this?
This was posted here 2 months(!) ago in the 8/13-17 week when both Pokemon Trainer and Peach were unveiled. Obviously we don't know for sure if this is true, but lets just assume it is ok?
Anyway, since we now have more info, what can we speculate now?
My guesses:
The original removed is most likely Ness.
So far we have 9 newcomer (excluding Zero Suit Samus) so 6 to go, according to him.
I guess game and Watch is out
6 character from the last game... hm... I guess pichu is a safe bet... dunno about the rest...
Do you think this is worth guessing or is just a waste of time?
This was posted here 2 months(!) ago in the 8/13-17 week when both Pokemon Trainer and Peach were unveiled. Obviously we don't know for sure if this is true, but lets just assume it is ok?
Anyway, since we now have more info, what can we speculate now?
My guesses:
The original removed is most likely Ness.
So far we have 9 newcomer (excluding Zero Suit Samus) so 6 to go, according to him.
I guess game and Watch is out
6 character from the last game... hm... I guess pichu is a safe bet... dunno about the rest...
Do you think this is worth guessing or is just a waste of time?
I'm only 64% done with my second run through Corruption, but I'll start a new game after that to check. I seriously thought I heard Ridley's theme, but--again, maybe that's just because I'm so used to it being there that I imagine it even when it isn't. >_>
I know the second fight didn't have it, though.
A Link to the Past
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Zeed said:
I think it'd be pretty simple to make - it could be bigger than Meteos, and moving blocks would be done with a cursor.
BuddhaRockstar
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I don't have time to keep up with this monstrous thread, but I saw on another forum there is a scan from a Japanese magazine in which Lucas appears to be using a snake as a whip. Is this old news?
grandjedi6
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Baiano19 said:Hey guys remember this?
This was posted here 2 months(!) ago in the 8/13-17 week when both Pokemon Trainer and Peach were unveiled. Obviously we don't know for sure if this is true, but lets just assume it is ok?
Anyway, since we now have more info, what can we speculate now?
My guesses:
The original removed is most likely Ness.
So far we have 9 newcomer (excluding Zero Suit Samus) so 6 to go, according to him.
I guess game and Watch is out
6 character from the last game... hm... I guess pichu is a safe bet... dunno about the rest...
Do you think this is worth guessing or is just a waste of time?
It still is just a random baseless rumor. Nothing else has come true. It's even more doubtful now since there is some evidence supporting Game and Watch returning
Baiano19 said:
Yeah, this guy took the GameFAQs Brawl Boards by storm. Everyone dubbed him a prophet, and it was full of threads titled "DO U BELIEVE IN THE PROFET". A lot of people actually believed this guy, although he was just some random guy who typed up that crap.
He was lucky enough for two of his predictions to come true (The week where we got one newcomer and one veteran). Nevertheless, his luck ran out when he predicted the next newcomer as Lucas, when it was in fact Pokemon Trainer. Or Diddy. Or someone, I forgot. The guy then came out and said that he was lying all along.
So er, no, don't believe it. It's bullshit.
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Zeed said:
My inside sauce says that in addition to Marth not returning in Brawl, Megaman will not cometh this week. Believe.
The Hermit
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grandjedi6 said:
What evidence?
BTW, I'm with Zeed about megaman... with this Capcom thing and all.
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Zeed said:
I predicted Kirby's Final Smash.
grandjedi6
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Baiano19 said:
Each of the series icons have a number for them. So far there is 20
Franchises first appearing in Super Smash Bros.
1. Smash Bros.
2. Donkey Kong
3. Star Fox
4. Kirby
5. F-Zero
6. Metroid
7. Earthbound
8. Pokemon
9. Legend of Zelda
10. Mario
11. Yoshi
Franchises first starting in Melee
12. Fire Emblem
13. ???
14. Ice Climber
Franchises introduced in Brawl
15. Animal Crossing
16. WarioWare
17. Metal Gear
18. Kid Icarus
19. ???
20. Sonic
Number 13 is most likely Game and Watch. Number 19 could be a Nintendo series like Pikmin or a 3rd party like Megaman
grandjedi6
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Zeed said:
The alphabetic theory has too many holes in it. They keep switching between character names, specific games names and series names to make the order work. The theory is probably false
MisterHero
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RYUZeed said:
ryu's a franchise, rite?
Dragona Akehi
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Scribble said:
The R&D1 design actually looks like someone could be inside a suit.
Prime... Eugh.
Elfforkusu
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Crono + VC release of said game.Rindain said:
Believe
SuperAndroid17
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Am I the only one who doesnt want jigglypuff in this game? It was funny the first 2 games.. but now ... just no... another single pokeman plz.
Oh , tonight's update will be Torchic. Mark my words.
Oh , tonight's update will be Torchic. Mark my words.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Zeed said:
The original alphabet theory was:
01: Dairantō Smash Brothers (Super Smash Bros.)
02: Donkī Kongu (Donkey Kong)
03: Fokkusu (Star Fox)
04: Hoshi no Kābii/Kābii (Kirby)
05: Kyaputen Farukon (F-Zero)
06: Metoroido (Metroid)
07: Mother (Earthbound)
08: Pokemon/Poketto Monsutā
09: Rinku (Zelda)
10: Sūpā Mario (Super Mario)
11: Yosshī (Yoshi)
12:Faia Emuburemu (Fire Emblem)
13:
14
15: Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Crossing)
16: Made in Wario (Wario Ware)
17:Metal Gear (Metal Gear Solid)
18: Parutena no Kagami (Kid Icarus)
19.
20.Sonic
Of course the alphabetically order of the original franchises doesn't make sense since some use series names and others use character names. Also Wario uses the Wario series icon not the WarioWare one in Brawl.
ShockingAlberto
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Also it uses the subtitle for Hikari shinwa, known here as Kid Icarus, instead of the series name.
It's like listing Metroid as Echoes.
It's like listing Metroid as Echoes.
titiklabingapat
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I agree, adding Megaman would be a nice gesture towards Capcom.
But I still wanna see how Sakurai can incorporate Pikmin into the mix, like what he did with Pokemon Trainer. I can see Olimar controlling several tens of pikmins of various colors while he stays in the background, again, like Pokemon Trainer. Pikmin also fits into that alphabetical theory thing unless it was called something else in Japan.
But I still wanna see how Sakurai can incorporate Pikmin into the mix, like what he did with Pokemon Trainer. I can see Olimar controlling several tens of pikmins of various colors while he stays in the background, again, like Pokemon Trainer. Pikmin also fits into that alphabetical theory thing unless it was called something else in Japan.
NO JIGGLYPUFF NO BUY.SuperAndroid17 said:
Well, a 35% less happy buy anyway.
Seriously, there's no reason to remove this character.
-She has a unique moveset. Nobody complains about unique movesets; they complain about clones.
-Jigglypuff's been in both Smash Bros games, which means she's a series staple.
-She's a very air-oriented character and one of the goals of the SSBB team is to openly increase aerial freedom.
-Tournament-wise, Jigglypuff was in the high tier, and a valued character.
-Most importantly, Jigglypuff already exists, which means it takes very, very little work to bring her back. All they had to do was take care of balance issues and add a final smash. Unlike any new characters at all, who would require time and resources, including Jigglypuff isn't going to prevent other new characters from being made.
Would I be surprised if Jiggs was out? No, not really, but that's only because I'm a pessimist right now since a great number of my most-wanted games are doing one major thing or other very wrong. Star Ocean 2, Advance Wars DS 2, Dragon Quest IX, Dragon Quest IV, Kirby Super Star, Fire Emblem DS--all of them will be excellent beyond belief, but nonetheless each has done something I very much don't like.
On the bright side, maybe Brawl being delayed two months and a week fills up the "major thing gone wrong" category, in which case Jigglypuff should return. In fact, I predict Jigglypuff will be the first unlockable first-party character revealed on the Dojo, possibly some time this week--actually, I'll go for the gold and predict Jiggs for tonight. As a serious prediction, none of this Sagi/Milly/Guillo joke stuff.
AdventureRacing
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SuperAndroid17 said:
The last smash had 4 pokemon (if i remember correctly). To me that is to many. Plus i dislike
jigglypuff so it's removal would be fine by me.
I dunno. I mean, remember those Prime 1 concept art pieces that showed an x-ray look at the female body being inside the suit? I wouldn't say a human body couldn't fit in the Retro design. I mean, maybe she's just really tall, like master chief, so she looks weird.Dragona Akehi said:
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