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Toonami |OT6| Where there's no such thing as filler
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redmetal86
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BassForever
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Amazing as always Sab! Oh lord cooking Asuna XD
lazybones18
Banned
As Death the Kid would say, it's absolutely perfect
Rosewater's gonna break his thumbs lol
Schadenfreude
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Later.
Oh my god, SAB. I think this might be your best ones yet. Amazing.
BassForever
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So cross checking my hummingbird with metron's next week episode list made me realize I was really off on all the toonami shows. I was ahead on naruto and igpx; behind on soul eater and big o. Not sure how I screwed that up
Lee Chaolan
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So, who here's a fan of Sword Art Online? I watched the first couple episodes and am actually enjoying it. Probably helps I just started Final Fantasy XIV...
lazybones18
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Schadenfreude
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Most of us here kinda dislike it, actually. That shouldn't discourage you from joining in though.
Lee Chaolan
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It's a little cheesy, sure. I like the music though and the animation's nice. I liked .hack//sign as well.
What episode is the Toonami run on now? Don't want to get spoiled.
It's enjoyable if you're not a complete crettian about stuff that's not aiming to be high art. It's not the world's greatest show but it's fun in it's eccentricities.
Though stop watching after episode 14, not even fans care for how that was handled.
There's no way I can take SAO even remotely serious after
I killed my wife in game because she's also my real life wife!
I thought that point was the first use of "Beater."
Well, if that's how you want to remember things, then be my guest.
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Best ones
The first thing that always comes to mind when Trigun is mentioned is LOVE AND PEAAAAACE.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
I enjoy it, SAO is dumb fun. Toonami Gaf as a whole likes to hate on the show but there's a few of us that are fans. I love reading the rage comments every week, especially Shard's.
I believe we are up to episode 9
Cooking Arts Online
I completely didn't make that comparison until now & laughed a bit harder than I should at that.
As for SAO, if you keep in mind how silly/so bad it's funny it is, then it makes for a good time, ESPECIALLY when you Mystery Anime Theater 3000 it with people a la ToonamiGaf.
Edit: Oh my god last night's FMA:B episode had the Armstrong family scene. One of the funniest scenes in the show. I still love the episode from the original when Havok tries to make Catherine his girlfriend.
BassForever
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As a male power harem fantasy Sao hits all the marks, when take with any kind of serious plot though it's hilariously awful.
I can't help but compare it to Love Hina: a series that isn't all that good (at the very least as good as I remember), but from the view point of a younger male who is still at the peak of puberty, is something they probably would enjoy because "OMG GIRLS AND VIDEO GAMES AND SWORD FIGHTS", a combination of what a good amount of young males enjoy at the time (well okay, Love Hina didn't have video games, but still). I can't look at Love Hina with nostalgia & still enjoy it (Naru is a jerk), but I can remember really liking that series back then because it was just that, a harem fantasy that I read when I was in junior high, the pinnacle of when guys are finishing going through puberty and being all "ooh boy, this has girls that're almost naked! I wish I was the main character so I could be around them!" when I was reading it. & in a way, I can see why the younger generation would enjoy SAO, because if I was that age again, I probably would like it way more than I do now, but then look back at it years later and notice all the flaws it had.
...or maybe I'm looking too hard into it. *shrugs* Still fun to watch to make fun of it with a group of people.
Here some fuller thoughts on SAO:
First of all, there is no quicker way to turn me off from anything than pandering. To have a set of female characters ('waifus') lining themselves up for the main character and have it be a fairly prominent part of the show pretty much doomed my enjoyment of it from the start. I know some people eat that crap up, shippers and whatnot, but that junk just repels me.
And when the show isn't pandering to the lowest common denominator with juvenile angst and cookie cutter trope-y waifu candidates and 'he accidentally touched her chest how funny!' I'm just bored with it. The villain isn't prominent and the primary conflict itself somehow feels distant from the narrative. I didn't like how it was set up in the first place, both with the logistics of how such a plan could be undertaken and with the villain's motive being seemingly "because I wanted to'. I forced myself to just accept it at first just as a sloppy means to set up a unique world with unique rules, but in the end I don't think I care much for the video game world setting, at least in the way SAO is utilizing it. And now the underlying progression of the show is in mostly in the background (how they get closer to their goal of getting out of the game I mean), as well as the villain.
And there are some shows I enjoy that don't have a prominent/interesting villain or conflict in the narrative- this is usually done by building up a believable and interesting protagonist or two I can relate to. Kirito? ahahahaha
First of all, there is no quicker way to turn me off from anything than pandering. To have a set of female characters ('waifus') lining themselves up for the main character and have it be a fairly prominent part of the show pretty much doomed my enjoyment of it from the start. I know some people eat that crap up, shippers and whatnot, but that junk just repels me.
And when the show isn't pandering to the lowest common denominator with juvenile angst and cookie cutter trope-y waifu candidates and 'he accidentally touched her chest how funny!' I'm just bored with it. The villain isn't prominent and the primary conflict itself somehow feels distant from the narrative. I didn't like how it was set up in the first place, both with the logistics of how such a plan could be undertaken and with the villain's motive being seemingly "because I wanted to'. I forced myself to just accept it at first just as a sloppy means to set up a unique world with unique rules, but in the end I don't think I care much for the video game world setting, at least in the way SAO is utilizing it. And now the underlying progression of the show is in mostly in the background (how they get closer to their goal of getting out of the game I mean), as well as the villain.
And there are some shows I enjoy that don't have a prominent/interesting villain or conflict in the narrative- this is usually done by building up a believable and interesting protagonist or two I can relate to. Kirito? ahahahaha
That one was fun
Couldn't figure out how to do "cooking in gaming" fast (sprite work would take all night), and I didn't want a Monster Hunter "LOOKS TASTY!" scene, sooo... !! "Ooo, that'll work!"\
As Death the Kid would say, it's absolutely perfect
Rosewater's gonna break his thumbs lol
And it's not even totally symmetrical!
I wanna BIG remote control figure too! -_-;Glad ya likes! Cook'n 'Suna makes everything better!
I actually enjoy it for what it is, while also hating it for being everything that's wrong about modern anime, lol. Which has pulled back to "Oh, that's just anime in general" as the episodes have gone on.
I enjoy the armor and outfit designs, and actually appreciate the "realistically reasonable for anime" designs populating it's world.
No no, it's
"Killed my wife because she was more awesome than me!"
As long as the Trigun references are understood, lol. I can never hear "LOVE AND PEACE" Anymore without internally adding "THIS WORLD IS MADE UP OF~...." before it in my head, now. Vash is too good.
Cooking Arts Online
I completely didn't make that comparison until now & laughed a bit harder than I should at that.
CAO! I'd... say it again, and continue to play my run of Dynasty Warriors!
Images of Tomatoes and kids with Barcodes appeared in mind at all the talk of memories!
It's not a very good Harem so far. He's more of an "Unknowingly effective lady-killer" rather than a "collecter of Harems", so far.
I don't even think it's all that male centric in a way... I feels more like "wussy gamer who has a sucky real life" power fantasy, lol. It's not like any of the women Kirito attracts are really the kind of insane trophy women that other anime pretend a loser-type could get. They're all slightly-better-than-normal women who happen to find some odd reason to deeply care for Kirito. As if the author has a thing for all the cute, awkward girls that actually hang around the quiet, awkward guys, rather than only wanting the head cheerleader or near-pornstar types.
And half the time, Kirito never even really profits off his oddly lady-pleasing ways; they make him uncomfortable, and he gets 10 min of comfort out of hours of uncomfort. The City Hunter says he waste too many "Mokkori CHANCE!" situations! The 80's had much better Male Power Fantasies, lol.
Better cheese then white bread.
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My favorites.
I agree. IGPX really nailed it with the action this week. Their best episode yet.
Schadenfreude
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Indeed. It was nice to see Takeshi grow up a bit too.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
IGPX was pretty darn good last night, it was nice to see Liz and Takeshi work together. Glad to see Amy back to her old self too, she really won the race for them.
BassForever
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My personal ranking for the episodes we saw
1- Soul Eater
2- Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
3- InuYasha
4- Big O
5- Cowboy Bebop
6- IGPX
7- One Piece
8- Naruto
9- Clone Wars
10- Bleach
11- SAO
1- Soul Eater
2- Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
3- InuYasha
4- Big O
5- Cowboy Bebop
6- IGPX
7- One Piece
8- Naruto
9- Clone Wars
10- Bleach
11- SAO
Doctor Decimate
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IGPX
Soul Eater
Clone Wars
One Piece
Sword Art Online
Bleach
Naruto
Soul Eater
Clone Wars
One Piece
Sword Art Online
Bleach
Naruto
Unspeakable Evil
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Haha. Would have been disappointed if it was anything other than Cooking Mama.
BassForever
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Yeah, I have an urge to collect all of Love Hina but almost zero urge to reread it.
Love Hina was 100x better (it practically created the harem genre as we know it today) than SAO will ever be and that's sad.
I figured out the best way to describe what SAO is trying to do. It's something childish pretending to be something adult and failing miserably. IGPX was the same way through part of season 1 until they actually started making it work. The way SAO is set up makes it seem like it's going to use it's setting to tell disconnected stories starring a main cast in the same way that Bebop did, except it has no idea what made Bebop work. That's what SAO is.
I figured out the best way to describe what SAO is trying to do. It's something childish pretending to be something adult and failing miserably. IGPX was the same way through part of season 1 until they actually started making it work. The way SAO is set up makes it seem like it's going to use it's setting to tell disconnected stories starring a main cast in the same way that Bebop did, except it has no idea what made Bebop work. That's what SAO is.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
I'm interested in hearing thoughts on Big O S2 thus far
If you've seen season 1 recently then it's pretty great, it builds on a lot of the threads from that season. If you haven't then you're going to not like it as much.
BassForever
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I'm enjoying it as a first time viewer, but I'll admit half the time I've no idea what's going on
Schadenfreude
Member
Had to rewatch Steins;Gate because I missed a chunk of it. Show is confusing but I think i'm liking it.
mightynine
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I like it, though I'm still a bit lost even with watching S1.
My biggest complaint about S2 is that it lacks that touch of humor S1 had.
But Dorothy!
What about Beck's megazord getting worfed?
BassForever
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After reading the premise of the show it made what we saw last night make a lot more sense.
I don't mind things getting darker, I just wish it would cut down some of the psychology eva stuff and just focus on telling us the story.
Schadenfreude
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Can I comment even though I've already seen it before? Big O Season 2 is pretty great. Got a lot of action, comedy, and TOMATOES. I kinda prefer the monster of the week type episodes of season one, but season two is still pretty good.
BassForever
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The biggest problem with S2 is that it's still tied by S1's routes of being a monster of the week series. In S1 when each episode was largely vignette it didn't really matter why a giant monster appeared to fight big o it just happened. S2 however focuses on connecting each episode into the overall plot of the series. The problem is they still feel obligated to have a big robot fight at the end of each episode. With the story being plot focused now, throwing in a giant robot fight at the end needs to be connected more with the story for it to work and often times I feel S2 doesn't do that.
Now maybe this is because Big O S2 is often a very complex show throwing out lots of complex stuff that my brain can't comprehend at 3:30AM on a first time view. Personally I always struggle to stay awake during Big O S2 but once I'm passed it FMA:B ~ InuYasha keep me engaged til 6. I'll rewatch Big O in a marathon once S2 finishes on Toonami to see if being truly awake helps.
mightynine
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My point exactly. That was a great episode, possibly my favorite of all of Big O.
That feeling was a bit more pronounced in the characters, especially Roger, in S1. As he's gotten more preoccupied with memories, he's gotten darker. Angel's darker. Not that I'm against character development, but I miss that feeling.
Schadenfreude
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Hmm? The fights in season two aren't random at all. They all fit really well with story. Maybe you do need to watch it while awake.
Doctor Decimate
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the biggest facepalm i did over SAO was the conversation over dinner that Kirito and Asuna had where they discussed people being ok living out their lives in the game. it is just incredibly poor writing to lay it out there like that and basically talk directly to you audience about themes you have almost NEVER addressed within the show. it's fine to have you characters talk about these things, but they need to actually exist to begin with. they just brought this crap up out of nowhere when it's not even remotely been the focus of the show.
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