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Final Fantasy X -Will- and FFX-2.5 plot discussion thread [Up2: Uh, um, errr, see OP]

Mesoian

Member
SE has done nothing in the past 8 years to inspire any sort of confidence in their ability to write mature, well-developed characters that act with a consistent logic. And explicitly mentioning sex feels like a weird gambit on their part. FF always has super-revealing costumes, or a literal sex-bunny race, but nothing resembling sex between characters.

Eh, I dunno. That whole "the last 7 days before we go and kill Sephiroth" sequence in FF7, I always thought Cloud and Tifa consummated their relationship since he had his memories and sanity back. But that's just interpretation.
 
A lot of people think FFX-2 is a pile of poop that was a needless sequel that shouldn't of been released. That it was only made for money. However, it is your favorite Final Fantasy. So should they never make a sequel to a game, even if it produced your favorite game... What kind of fairness is that? What logic is that?

I suppose it's less that I'm against the idea of a X-3 and more that I'm against how they seem to be doing it here. The whole thing with X-2's best end is that Yuna busts her ass to save the world not once but twice, being intent on killing herself to accomplish the task for most of the first time, so the closest thing their world has to God basically says "we usually don't do this, but fuck it, we owe you, so we'll deus ex machina your boyfriend back from the dead." Now Yuna's worried that it's not "really" Tidus she got back, Sin has returned, and overall everything she worked hard to achieve in the first two games has been taken away from her. And on top of that she's reverted back to who she was before X-2, seemingly just because X-2 was unpopular?

Final Fantasy X-2 has the best battle system in the franchise (Dress Spheres!), but fuck that plot.

Yeah, the main plot was blah overall, but I thought the battle system was perfect and loved some of the goofy side quests (such as getting monkeys to fuck in Zanarkand.)
 

Shinta

Banned
SE has done nothing in the past 8 years to inspire any sort of confidence in their ability to write mature, well-developed characters that act with a consistent logic.

I liked XIII, and what I've seen of XIV is pretty cool. And Type-0 looks pretty awesome too. XV looks neat so far, even though we don't know a lot about the story. The Last Remnant was cool.

And story will only be one part of the game. There's still battle systems, art design and soundtrack. I'm definitely interested.

And explicitly mentioning sex feels like a weird gambit on their part. FF always has super-revealing costumes, or a literal sex-bunny race, but nothing resembling sex between characters.
Yes, you're right. It's something new. I can understand the initial surprise in it being included since it's something new.

But after that, I don't get the complaints unless people only want neutered, sex-less relationships to be a concrete rule for the entire series for all time. I think the way they're tying it into the story is pretty interesting, personally. It's not just a random sex mini-game or something. It's somebody holding on to dead loved one that just got blown up in front of them. I mean, that's pretty dark, and from the sound of it she's cold and acts like its taking a heavy toll on her in the story. Furthermore, I think I read that Tidus can't know he's dead or else he vanishes - so she's basically having to lie to him the whole time, which creates more burden for her. Almost resembles the core themes of Frankenstein. I'd like to see where they go with it before I condemn something I haven't read ... let alone the following game that we haven't seen anything of yet.
 

Wazzy

Banned
Eh, I dunno. That whole "the last 7 days before we go and kill Sephiroth" sequence in FF7, I always thought Cloud and Tifa consummated their relationship since he had his memories and sanity back. But that's just interpretation.
They did have sex.

But it's really hard to tell if Cloud was content in a relationship with Tifa since in the ending he's still talking about Aeris.

Either way, VII's romance isn't really compareable to the rest of the series since its a love triangle that pushes players to choose whoever you want to end up with Cloud(obviously Aeris would be emotionally since she's uh...ya know)
 

Zoe

Member
SE has done nothing in the past 8 years to inspire any sort of confidence in their ability to write mature, well-developed characters that act with a consistent logic. And explicitly mentioning sex feels like a weird gambit on their part. FF always has super-revealing costumes, or a literal sex-bunny race, but nothing resembling sex between characters.

Uh, it's pretty heavily implied that Cloud and Tifa did it. The plan was to make it more blatant, but they backed off.

And of course there's the theory that Yuna and Tidus's kiss wasn't just a kiss.
 

Mexi

Banned
Uh, it's pretty heavily implied that Cloud and Tifa did it. The plan was to make it more blatant, but they backed off.

And of course there's the theory that Yuna and Tidus's kiss wasn't just a kiss.

I have never heard anything about this, can you give us some backstory or source?
 

huggles

Neo Member
I'm so sorry

I spat my latte all over my screen

Don't be sorry. Never be sorry.

Fayth are statues created from some ritual that they never describe in the game. If the ritual were sex, it doesn't really make too much sense... Though Yunalesca states that you must have a strong bond to become a fayth . . . Does that mean Lord Braska And Jecht OH GODs PRESERVE US.

If the sex thing is true, which I don't think it is... Those fan fictions about Jecht and Braska... Oh god :X

Purely going by what's shown in FFX, I always assumed the whole bond thing meant that the strength of the relationship in whatever form it may be determines how strong the final aeon would be. On the other hand...I had always found it creepy how the fayths entered into the summoner the way they did as demonstrated by the Bahamut fayth kid. Just ramming himself into her....ew.
 

Rinoa

Member
I'm so sorry

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foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
This new plot is terrible and all but guys lets not treat sex like its suppose to be taboo, especially when alot of FF characters are sex symbols
 

Mesoian

Member
This new plot is terrible and all but guys lets not treat sex like its suppose to be taboo, especially when alot of FF characters are sex symbols

It's not, but it needs to be handled better than that. This reads like the FF10 porn parody
The porn parody actually has a better plot than this
 

KoopaTheCasual

Junior Member
I have never heard anything about this, can you give us some backstory or source?

About the FF7 scene underneath the Highwind, apparently that scene, instead of fading in from black in the morning in the same location, it was supposed to fade in to them waking up in the chocobo stables on the Highwind. It doesn't get more explicit/raunchy than that implication. But yea, they apparently backed off from making it that suggestive.
 
About the FF7 scene underneath the Highwind, apparently that scene, instead of fading in from black in the morning in the same location, it was supposed to fade in to them waking up in the chocobo stables on the Highwind. It doesn't get more explicit/raunchy than that implication. But yea, they apparently backed off from making it that suggestive.

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That gif is amazing.


I didn't expect that when I clicked that link. That 'essay' is some of the most pathetic stuff I've ever read. Who on earth would take their time to analyse such a simple scene so much? They had sex, it's not the end of the world.
Didn't even read that part. More of a link to Nojima's statements. Pretty sure there is better links, but I'm lazy.
 

Verendus

Banned
Didn't even read that part. More of a link to Nojima's statements. Pretty sure there is better links, but I'm lazy.
Don't. Seriously. Save yourself the pain. That site is like the Twilight of FF7. I don't even know how deep this rabbit hole goes but holy crap. This is a site dedicated to the 'love triangle' of FF7. I don't even, why does stuff like this exist?!
 

Kopite

Member
I don't remember about it, i just remember they kissed, video or source?
Not the exact video but I was just watching this and the kiss is there at about 30 seconds in. It's definitely implied that they went further than that.
 
The best thing to come out of these spoilers is the possibility that Lord Braska and Jecht did the hot mantangled.

That scene in FFX where
Jecht is so passionate and insistent on becoming the Fayth for Braska's final aeon takes on a whole new meaning when you imagine that he knows it'll involve touching his blitzballs.
 
Don't. Seriously. Save yourself the pain. That site is like the Twilight of FF7. I don't even know how deep this rabbit hole goes but holy crap. This is a site dedicated to the 'love triangle' of FF7. I don't even, why does stuff like this exist?!
There is probably websites dedicated to FFX-3 as we speak. It is the internet afterall.
 

Esura

Banned
Don't. Seriously. Save yourself the pain. That site is like the Twilight of FF7. I don't even know how deep this rabbit hole goes but holy crap. This is a site dedicated to the 'love triangle' of FF7. I don't even, why does stuff like this exist?!

That's fairly tame compared to other fan oddities. Not really sure why its blowing your mind, lol.
 

Wazzy

Banned
Don't. Seriously. Save yourself the pain. That site is like the Twilight of FF7. I don't even know how deep this rabbit hole goes but holy crap. This is a site dedicated to the 'love triangle' of FF7. I don't even, why does stuff like this exist?!
Trust me, the love triangle fans are nuts.

The whole Cloti vs Clerith stuff is embarrassing and be happy that's all you're reading.

I remember seeing them hack each others sites :lol
 
You know what, I hope Square never makes a sequel to FF Tactics, they'd probably give Delita a harem or something horrible like that.

and lmao at that gif, kinda made this all worth it
 

jWILL253

Banned
So, amongst all the WTFbombs that Square has been providing in this thread, I kept wondering what people meant with the whole "France" reference. So, I googled it.

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Toriyama pls
 

Dark_castle

Junior Member
You know what, I hope Square never makes a sequel to FF Tactics, they'd probably give Delita a harem or something horrible like that.

and lmao at that gif, kinda made this all worth it

To be fair, Square only brings the original writer to work on their sequels. Tell me you don't want Tactics 2 by Yasumi Matsuno? :p
 
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