Ken Masters
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Her Oscar winning role in Precious was amazing, even scary. I was curious what happened to her and she basically didn't do a damn thing since, not what you expect after your name is in history with the greats
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So Mo'Nique wins an Oscar then just disappears
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Ken Masters
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This could be very true, Hollywood doesn't know how to cast black actors unless they need a black role to be filled
She had her talk show right after for 2 years and I just checked and she was in some Blackbird movie. Idk if she's a great actress or if that was just a great role for her. I enjoyed her in her earlier comedies, but this role was seemingly perfect for her and I'm interested to see if she can keep that level in quality in subsequent roles.
Pretty much. There isn't going to be a lot of jobs for her.
same with French ones
Lord Fagan
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That sounded mean. But Hollywood is pretty fucked up with how they cast people (and what they are looking for). They aren't...very open to diversity. Only when it suits their needs.
...what?
Because all black actors just have a natural affinity for churning out Oscar-caliber performances when playing impoverished, down-on-your-luck and violent, angry characters?
Mo'Nique, up to that point, had been a comedic actress (hell, not even a traditional actress. All of her roles up to that point were just extensions of the of the personality she put on in her comedy rutines). Her biggest credit before Precious was starring in a WB sitcom.
So no, that role wasn't exactly tailor-made or "seemingly perfect" for her.
PhoenixDark
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Yup. And refuses to even consider losing weight, and has jumped on the "it's ok to be obese" train.
But to be fair even if she lost weight she'd still be a black woman in Hollywood, and thus irrelevant. In 2-3 years someone will make a thread exactly like this about Lupita.
Ken Masters
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Right, such a racist post and he didn't even know it
At least Gabourey Sidibe seems to be doing somewhat fine
Or Germans. Fortunately there are always plenty of Nazi roles available.
Shamrock7r
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Wow man, you are looking for something that clearly wasn't there in that post.
Gabourey Sidibe seems to be doing fine.
IdreamofHIME
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It looks like you misread what the guy said and created some rage pos about nothing he said.
Good job.
RastaMentality
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Let's hope Lupita isn't killed off in E7.
uncredited male
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I was going to make a Marisa Tomei joke but her resume kind of puts Mo'Nique's to shame.
I also wonder how many posters are going to get confused as to who the actual character Mo'Nique was in Precious.
I also wonder how many posters are going to get confused as to who the actual character Mo'Nique was in Precious.
Nazi roles can be played by actors of any nationality that isn't American. Hollywood is awesome like that.
plasmawave
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Whatever happened to that dude? He was super popular at one point.
ya'll serious, though? even in her comedic roles, she's played brash, sarcastic kinda mean characters, that's why I said it seemed like a perfect fit for her. stop reaching.
DeaconKnowledge
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Will Smith.
Ken Masters
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I've seen her in her previous comedy movies, I couldn't even recognize her in Precious, something many critics pointed out. So no, she was not some obvious fit to play that role
Piston Hyundai
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Waiting on a Beerfest sequel.
Didn't misread it at all. It's right there in their post.
Unless you both can come up with some other obvious reason that Mo'Nique of all people was "seemingly perfect" for that role. I'll sit here and wait. Anybody who followed Mo'Nique's career up to that point knows that her role in Precious was anything but "seemingly perfect" for her.
No, Mo'Nique worked her damn ass off studying and connecting to that character and turned in a jaw-dropping performance as a result of her hard work and talent. But for some reason people sure do love saying a POC was "tailor made for this" when they're playing a part that fits into the stereotypes associated with their race as an attempt to diminish the fact that POC can actually act.
Are you skeptical about how racist Hollywood is?
I think her being obese is just a small part of it, Melissa Mccarthy has a tv and gets quite a few starring roles.
She hasn't been the star of anything since Precious.
HyperZone<3
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or just how an amazing talent like Angela Bassett rightly became a major movie star after her Oscar nominated breakthrough.
I mean, if Angela flipping Bassett can't get much heat in her career, what chance did Mo'Nique have?
I said it was seemingly perfect, not that she was an obvious fit for it. I definitely didn't imply black actors/actresses have to play an impoverished character to win Oscars either. I don't know where the fuck you got those implications from either.
Yeah, you're obviously taking something from my post that I didn't say. As a black man, what you're saying didn't even cross my mind, but it's funny to be grouped in as a racist. I wasn't trying to downplay the hard work she put into the role, but my experience with her as an actress has been roles where she's played sarcastic, kinda brash characters. the seemingly perfect comment was a compliment, man. chill out.
Isn't Halle Berry a very successful actress in Hollywood?
Ken Masters
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There is no rebuttal to this, but I'll be interested to see how he defneds his stereotyping
the poster was obviously just making a comment on how convincing her performance was
you can put your back down now
Let the poster speak for himself.
uncredited male
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There is some Highlander shit going on there.
And don't forget how successful the Rock was in wrestling.
he already has, and you ignored it
I have and you guys are still reaching. Nowhere in my post did I come close to making the generalizations you're saying I did.
PhoenixDark
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Not really (and regardless, one actress doesn't equal a trend). Hasn't had the second breath to her career like the Bullocks and Jolies and is now doing a TV show. You know who else is doing a TV show right now? Viola Davis, who also won an Oscar.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000932/
Notice the types of roles she got after winning an Oscar. Bond Girl and X-Men sure, but nothing truly noteworthy or challenging.
Well then I would just ask you then to think about how you phrase these things, and how you approach the subject, because this is actually a huge issue for minorities in Hollywood. They did this shit to Halle when she won for Monster's Ball; they did this shit to Denzel when he won for Training Day. They do this shit to practically EVERY Asian actress ever. Rarely do POC get credit for "stepping outside of themselves and really digging deep" and, you know, acting, when they play a role that fits into what society thinks of their race. So, the whole "this role was perfect for her!" is a definite sore spot.
Heck, it wasn't even my intent to attack you really. I was reading your post and scratching my head, wondering if you knew who Mo'Nique even was. There is absolutely nothing in Mo'Nique's resume prior to Precious that would lead you to believe that she would knock that role out of the park the way she did. That's what a lot of talk about her performance was about! "Wait...am I watching Mo'Nique right now???"
KefkaPalazzo
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Cuba chose some awful roles.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
billy beane
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I mean what is there for her to do in current Hollywood? I feel like her role in Precious is about as good as it's going to get for an overweight, black actress. Like those are three things (weight, race, gender) that would hold back anyone in Hollywood, let alone anyone with all three.
It's sad but true.
It's sad but true.
once again, as a black man, I know this and since you now know my post wasn't intended to be like that, we don't really have anything else to discuss.
PhoenixDark
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milquetoast
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and did some really, really bad acting.
You didn't intend for your post to be like that, but it was like that.
basically
billy beane
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It's still shocking that Mo'Nique did that well in the role. Like this is what I remembered about Mo'Nique before Precious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQQf_oMFydk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQQf_oMFydk
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