ZehDon
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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Srs biniss.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I almost literally rolled my eyes when that happened. I can't believe I'm so dumb I didn't see it coming.
dead ... lol
EL CUCO
Member
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Oh lord.. lol.
I'm never gonna play the game, so you can spoiler tag the joke for me?
I kind of want to know haha
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Chapter X is a cutscene, chapter 11 is a poorly paced stealth mission, chapter 12 is a cutscene, chapter 13 is a cutscene, chapter 14 is walking through a very short tunnel, 15 is a drawn out sequence of rooms, and chapter 16 is only a QTE boss fight that's literally exactly the same as the boss fight earlier in the game.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
I'm at 4 hours and 01 minute on chapter 10 while searching for all the collectables.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
What have you been doing?
I think it should be noted that it's impossible to speed run this game. It's so unbelievably scripted and rarely lets you sprint or rush, not to mention that the level spaces are very small so there's little exploration. Really puts all those "that youtuber was just speedrunning the game" posts from people who hadn't played the game in perspective.stop showing off your l337 sp33d runn1ng
Meccanical
Member
Browsing NeoGAF and taking screenshots I guess.
Nice try Cosmo.
You can see a good enough quality 1080p video of this game at the same frame rate online. No one's missing anything by not actually taking the time to play this.
Doctor_Thomas
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Meccanical
Member
It's the same experience either way.
NullPointer
Member
I have no words.
Junior Mint
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Doctor_Thomas
Member
Well, if you say so.
I feel Youtube is a poor replacement for playing video games, due to the game aspect not really translating well to a play button. It may just be for me, but I actually prefer to experience all of the game, not watch someone else experience it on my behalf (which is nice of them, but wholly unnecessary). Oh well.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I said it multiple times throughout my time with the game, but what were they thinking?
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Agreed. Watching a youtube playthrough is in no way a substitute for actually playing a game. Even something like Heavy Rain or The Order.
Meccanical
Member
Heavy Rain at least has choices.
The sad thing is the QTEs in Heavy Rain are 10x more compelling than the ones in The Order.
Hahaha.
My friend and I stopped at chapter 10 last night because
it was getting late and we were worried it might take too long to finish. Guess we were wrong.
I still love this game.
I don't know. I'm loving EVERY PS4 exclusive this gen and have zero agenda pushing me to "force myself" to like them.
Not sure what people want. If anything, I see a consistent negative with many PS4 exclusives, which is pacing (in KZ: Shadowfall, InFamous: Second Son, and The Order), but it doesn't ruin these games. DriveClub and Knack simply got shat on like crazy, imo. Both are phenomenal games (and yes, I mean DC the way it was at launch). TLOU: Remastered is flawless.
I'm quite happy this gen so far.
I don't know. I'm loving EVERY PS4 exclusive this gen and have zero agenda pushing me to "force myself" to like them.
Not sure what people want. If anything, I see a consistent negative with many PS4 exclusives, which is pacing (in KZ: Shadowfall, InFamous: Second Son, and The Order), but it doesn't ruin these games. DriveClub and Knack simply got shat on like crazy, imo. Both are phenomenal games (and yes, I mean DC the way it was at launch). TLOU: Remastered is flawless.
I'm quite happy this gen so far.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Its a friggin pity the Metacritic average isn't 7 or greater. That would've been considerably more respectable.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
SERIOUSLY!?!?!
Why would they finish off the game like that?
Are you saying there are no gunfights for the last 6 levels? That cannot be right.
The really sad part is that this is accurate.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Both 11 and 15 have plenty of it. Whether it's good is a different matter altogether
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
OH OK! The way that guy described the levels made it sound like there was no gunfights for the final third of the game.
Having just finished the game I really enjoyed it. I'll be starting my secoond playthrough on hard to wrap up the trophies later today but the following are my takeaways from my roughly 11 hour playthrough one
Positives
Negatives
All that said I dig the game a lot. Gunplay is fun albeit hard as I tend to suck at TPSs in general but it's really the atmosphere and the story that steal the show for me. While the story is a bit predictable at parts there are some unexpected twists and the characters themselves make it for me. The use of discover-able items and sound logs to provide insight into certain characters is really well done. I specially liked the flyer where Tesla drew demon horns on Edison.
Overall the game is very indicative of inexperience thanks to some odd design decisions. But given that this is RADs first AAA title it's nothing that really surprised me. It's not likely to be anyone's Game of the Year but at the same time it's not by any means a bad game. I certainly don't think it's deserving of the reaming it's received in reviews especially since it's released with a rock solid Framerate and no glitches that I've seen or heard of outside of a friend reporting a solitary crash to system menu but that was while using the share function.
It's a shame when games that release stuffed to the gills with DLC and plans for countless more or patently broken games that don't work as advertised or intended receive stellar scores (9s and higher) while a solid contained game like this one is rated so dismally by so many. I guess maybe I just don't see eye to eye with most reviewers any more. We clearly have different priorities/desires when it comes to games. I really enjoyed the game. I'm looking forward to my second playthrough and am excited and hopeful whatever follow up RAD might have planned.
Positives
- Stunning art direction especially given the setting.
- Voice acting is great. Incredibly well done across the board. Right up there with the best I've heard in a game.
- Really enjoyed the story and it has me excited at the prospect of followup game
- Sound direction (OST, ambient noise, weapon feedback etc) are all incredibly well done. Hands down among the best I've heard in a game.
- Lighting and shading is way beyond anything I've ever seen in any other game. When inspecting flyers the ink and contours of said material reflect 100% realistically in realtime when manipulated by the player. The lighting is so good that I found myself gawking and screen caping even the most mundane of things (lantern on a barrel etc) because it blew my mind every single time. I have som 40 odd screenshots from my first playthrough uploaded t my twitter acct (@rexnovis for anyone who wants to look)
- Gunplay is excellent. The shotgun and the thermite rifle are both an absolute blast to use. Also the secondary fire on the falchion that stuns enemies with a blast of air was quit fun to use on advancing enemies.
- I really enjoyed the werewolf encounters. It managed to avoid the tendency in these games to make boss fights into bullet sponges and make them feel unique from all other encounters in the game. The half breed fights managed to capitalize on the speed and ferocity of the enemy instead of just being a big bad thing that you shoot until you die. The sort of guerrilla attack from all sides and angles aspect had me panicking to fire back. The Elder lycan fights were absolutely brutal. I do however think that they could relinquished a bit more control of the situation to the player, They still get a positive from me for not being a bullet sponge fight though.
Negatives
- Depth of Field sometimes causes sighted enemies to appear out of focus causing them to look blurry.
- Disorienting and seemingly unnecessary loss of camera/character control (descending/climbing ladders, intermittent short scenes that could have easily played out while maintaining control)
- Immersion breaking button prompts. Some of them really aren't necessary. After you establish the proper button or control element to use in a situation you really dont need to constantly remind the player. Why does it need to display a symbol over ever inspect-able item instead of just a slight glow or something? It immediately reminds you "oh yeah I'm playing a game"
- Some chapter breaks that make the story feel unnecessarily disjointed. These were especially puzzling because it just felt like the transitions were very sudden or jarring when providing just a smidge more context or a bit more content prior to the transition wouldve eliminated the problem.
- No gun draw control. Gun may only be drawn when combat scenario starts. This is more of a pet peeve of mine. I'm the sort that likes to shoot the environment to see how it reacts so anytime I couldnt draw my gun to shoot a vase or a painting the arbitrary limitation reminded me that I was playing a game and immediately removed me from whatever immersion I had at that point.
- Oddly reflective white areas on the eyes and lack of shaders on and around them in some heavily lighted scenes make them stick out like a sore thumb when everything else looks damn near real.
All that said I dig the game a lot. Gunplay is fun albeit hard as I tend to suck at TPSs in general but it's really the atmosphere and the story that steal the show for me. While the story is a bit predictable at parts there are some unexpected twists and the characters themselves make it for me. The use of discover-able items and sound logs to provide insight into certain characters is really well done. I specially liked the flyer where Tesla drew demon horns on Edison.
Overall the game is very indicative of inexperience thanks to some odd design decisions. But given that this is RADs first AAA title it's nothing that really surprised me. It's not likely to be anyone's Game of the Year but at the same time it's not by any means a bad game. I certainly don't think it's deserving of the reaming it's received in reviews especially since it's released with a rock solid Framerate and no glitches that I've seen or heard of outside of a friend reporting a solitary crash to system menu but that was while using the share function.
It's a shame when games that release stuffed to the gills with DLC and plans for countless more or patently broken games that don't work as advertised or intended receive stellar scores (9s and higher) while a solid contained game like this one is rated so dismally by so many. I guess maybe I just don't see eye to eye with most reviewers any more. We clearly have different priorities/desires when it comes to games. I really enjoyed the game. I'm looking forward to my second playthrough and am excited and hopeful whatever follow up RAD might have planned.
main reason im waiting for my surround sound to get setup before i even think about playing the game.
it's just sitting in the wrapper right now...teasing me.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Both those chapters are quite lengthy too.
Chapter 11 starts off as a stealth mission and then becomes a full shoot out later in the chapter.
PanicFreak
Member
I'm refering to the premise of this game specifically being "must play" for graphics alone. When you have no interest in what the game offers, YouTube is good enough equivalent for experiencing the graphics. You can see the graphics of this game at the same resolution and frame rate at decent enough compression to get the gist.
No you really can't. Nothing I have seen posted online comes anywhere close to what I saw while playing the game on my TV it is absolutely breathtaking how gorgeous this game can be. There is no substitute for seeing it rendered on your screen right in front of you. Screencaps and videos just dont do it justice in the slightest.
Ch 15 actually contains a lot of action and gunplay with many enemies, where you're given use of most of the weapons found throughout the whole game. It wasn't drawn out, if anything it was just way too short. You sort of make it sound like all you do is run through a bunch of rooms.
Meccanical
Member
Stole this from the first review thread. Has anyone gotten Bingo yet?
Bingo on the first row alone.
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