Royal_Flush
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This is the biggest clusterfuck I've seen in a long time.
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PART I: The Young Girl and the Sea
What happened so far?
D1:
- Exodu5 reads Enker as Scum and goes after him.
N1:
- Enker tries to visit Exodu5, but isn't receiving whatever he's supposed to receive. (If Enker isn't completely lying, that is)
D2:
- Exodu5 claims out of the blue target immunity with downside (he only mentions the not further specified downside after various people called bullshit on his claim)
- He thinks Scum targeted him and failed instead of our potential doctor or roleblocker having a lucky guess.
Enker's claim
Ok, let's break this down:
Except Exodu5, out of all people, who still thinks it made perfect sense:
What do we get out of it?
Two Town roleclaims, no new strong Scum suspects. Great.
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PART II: The Three Question Marks
What happened so far?
D1:
- Seath roleplays as that princess from enchanted (I forgot her name)
- Darryl goes after Seath
- both play as ususal (as far as I can tell)
- AbsolutBro seems (in my opinion) weirdly constrained compared to other games or even D2 this day.
D2:
- Darryl drops a Tinkerbell line towards Seath
- Seath claims Tinkerbell (Ordinary)
- Darryl plays way more friendly and agreeable than on D1
- Seath starts getting involved after his claim.
Two Wendys (Wendies?)
Anyway, next thing that happens is that AsolutBro comes along and counterclaims Wendy with some mysterious night action he wants to fire off N2:
Who to believe?
Well, here starts the difficult part. Darryl's whole claim is suspicious as fuck, but he has that Tinkerbell line. That's a pretty good piece of evidence for his claim.
There is however another (not that likely, but also far from impossible) possibility I didn't yet consider:
I guess that could just be really, really good bait (as he mentioned in a later post which for general confusion is quoted further above in my post), but it sounds really serious. And again, why would he attack his name plan or even drop the Tinkerbell line if he "knows" Seath doesn't know of his protector and assumes Seath has to keep his identity hidden? Posts already quoted above, but for reference:
And then, after AB counterclaimed, it starts getting ridiculous:
That's it for Darryl for now. Let's look at AbsolutBro. Apart from me on D1 noone ever really suspected him so far, so he has little to gain from a fake counterclaim. Especially since if we lynch Darryl and he turns out to really be Wendy, we have no option than to lynch AB on D3.
But then there are these huge, HUGE red flags in his posts that I actually can't really find in Darryl's posts:
And then there's Seath who dramatically changed his playstyle after his roleclaim and unusually clear states his alignment. I don't know how I would react in his situation but it kind of rubs me in a wrong way:
What do we get out of it?
I don't have the slightest clue. This whole situation makes zero sense, from any party involved, regardless of their alignment. Except everyone is telling the truth in which case I will get really angry at ynnny,
At the moment I'm inclined to believe Exodu5's version and would vote Darryl.
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PART III: The Leftovers
So again just a few unrelated comments as you should be used to by now:
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PART I: The Young Girl and the Sea
What happened so far?
D1:
- Exodu5 reads Enker as Scum and goes after him.
N1:
- Enker tries to visit Exodu5, but isn't receiving whatever he's supposed to receive. (If Enker isn't completely lying, that is)
D2:
- Exodu5 claims out of the blue target immunity with downside (he only mentions the not further specified downside after various people called bullshit on his claim)
- He thinks Scum targeted him and failed instead of our potential doctor or roleblocker having a lucky guess.
Enker's claim
Ok, let's break this down:
Enker misread (or at least acts as if he did) Exodu5's claim and thinks Exodu5 says he was visited by someone. That is not what he stated, tough. In addition: Why would Scum Exodu5 even care if Enker visited him. it's not like his visitors will be publicly announced or something. And even if, it still could just be the cop or something checking in.
Except Exodu5 already tried to paint Enker as Scum D1, where nothing ever visited him. For some reason none of you see that and instead you mumble something about a thunderdome. Then AB and potentially a few others (sorry, I don't remember) stroll along and set the records straight.
Except Exodu5, out of all people, who still thinks it made perfect sense:
Exodu5 already was focused on Enker D1. Nothing changed. Exodu5 can't possibly know Enker is a PR on D1.
What do we get out of it?
Two Town roleclaims, no new strong Scum suspects. Great.
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PART II: The Three Question Marks
What happened so far?
D1:
- Seath roleplays as that princess from enchanted (I forgot her name)
- Darryl goes after Seath
- both play as ususal (as far as I can tell)
- AbsolutBro seems (in my opinion) weirdly constrained compared to other games or even D2 this day.
D2:
- Darryl drops a Tinkerbell line towards Seath
- Seath claims Tinkerbell (Ordinary)
- Darryl plays way more friendly and agreeable than on D1
- Seath starts getting involved after his claim.
Two Wendys (Wendies?)
Let me paraphrase: Darryl (Town) knows that Seath (Town) is Tinkerbell. When Seath dies, he dies two but not the other way around; in fact Seath knows nothing about all this. "But", you may ask, "didn't Darryl do after Seath and complained about the swing towards Dusk Soldier?" Well, let's see what he has to say about this:
Uh, you were going to safe Seath? Interesting:
This was right before the Dusk Soldier train started. If I read the postnumbers in the votecount correctly, this put Seath on a tie for second position with Darryl himself (3 votes each) right behind Terrabyte (4 votes). A bit risky if you want to safe Seath, especially as Darryl names several other good targets in his post, don't you think?
Anyway, next thing that happens is that AsolutBro comes along and counterclaims Wendy with some mysterious night action he wants to fire off N2:
Who to believe?
Well, here starts the difficult part. Darryl's whole claim is suspicious as fuck, but he has that Tinkerbell line. That's a pretty good piece of evidence for his claim.
There is however another (not that likely, but also far from impossible) possibility I didn't yet consider:
If you think this through, it actually makes sense on a conspiracy theory level: pressure Seath into a nameclaim today and then use the info gained on N1 as evidence for Township. Note how Darryl specifically attacks the false roleplay angle of Seath's D1 play:
I guess that could just be really, really good bait (as he mentioned in a later post which for general confusion is quoted further above in my post), but it sounds really serious. And again, why would he attack his name plan or even drop the Tinkerbell line if he "knows" Seath doesn't know of his protector and assumes Seath has to keep his identity hidden? Posts already quoted above, but for reference:
And then, after AB counterclaimed, it starts getting ridiculous:
I mean, if AB's role PM states that he is a young Wendy, ok. (Does it, AB?) But otherwise? No way!
That's it for Darryl for now. Let's look at AbsolutBro. Apart from me on D1 noone ever really suspected him so far, so he has little to gain from a fake counterclaim. Especially since if we lynch Darryl and he turns out to really be Wendy, we have no option than to lynch AB on D3.
But then there are these huge, HUGE red flags in his posts that I actually can't really find in Darryl's posts:
He offers himself. I'm suspicious now. He doesn't want to lynch Darryl but someone else today? WT actual F?! So he can buy himself another day or what? If he was Scum that whole gambit didn't make much sense to begin with but once started the best way out clearly would be to get neither himself nor Darryl lynched.
And then there's Seath who dramatically changed his playstyle after his roleclaim and unusually clear states his alignment. I don't know how I would react in his situation but it kind of rubs me in a wrong way:
What do we get out of it?
I don't have the slightest clue. This whole situation makes zero sense, from any party involved, regardless of their alignment. Except everyone is telling the truth in which case I will get really angry at ynnny,
At the moment I'm inclined to believe Exodu5's version and would vote Darryl.
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PART III: The Leftovers
So again just a few unrelated comments as you should be used to by now:
Darryl in all likelihood would know that there is someone after him. He didn't mention anything like this.
A Town flip of Seath does exactly nothing.
Hook is after Wendy, who doesn't know anyone is after her and Wendy tries to protect Tinkerbell from no apparent danger? Nah.
An every night commuter without strings attached is unkillable and therefor eit's impossible for a single Scum to win. All our commuters so far had restrictions like only operating on odd nights.
