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Familienoberhauptvogel · Sep 22, 2016

The way it's shaping out to be on the Beta I already hate standard.

All I'm facing right now is hyper aggressive decks with an unfair deck thrown into the mix every now and then.
I already loathe vehicles, the crewing isn't a cost when you can drop a creature each turn and the copter filters to make that more likely.
Fumigate is too expensive at 5 and not hitting vehicles hamstrings it further.

*Rant courtesy of some frustrating losses in a row

Someone at WotC explain me why this guy

doesn't come into play tapped from the yard.

Now I have to prioritize exile over GY even more and the removal is just worse in that aspect.

Ashodin · Sep 22, 2016

What's the deck that includes the Scrounger? GB?

Also CardAnywhere has Kaladesh in it now, yessss

Familienoberhauptvogel · Sep 22, 2016

Ashodin said:
What's the deck that includes the Scrounger? GB?

I've seen it in RB and WRB Vehicles. It might be more of a sideboard card against removal heavy decks but it makes for something very difficult to get rid of.

divisionbyzorro · Sep 22, 2016

People always start a new format with hyper aggro and broken linear decks. They're the easiest to build and they give you a framework for building midrange.

Tizoc · Sep 22, 2016

Just got my first big ass mtg artbook!
Which i blind bought and only realized when i got it that it was innistrad themed which is my least favourite plane

Still art is nice but i dont like its dark theme

El Topo · Sep 22, 2016

Familienoberhauptvogel said:
Someone at WotC explain me why this guy

doesn't come into play tapped from the yard.

Probably because he can't block, but they wanted him to be useful for vehicles?

Takuhi · Sep 22, 2016

Ashodin said:
I don't think Pia Nalaar could ever be a thing

I just don't like her Sam I Am

Sweet deck! Been looking to try out something along these lines. Put up any results with it on any testing sites yet?

Ashodin · Sep 22, 2016

Takuhi said:
Sweet deck! Been looking to try out something along these lines. Put up any results with it on any testing sites yet?

That was a deck on MTG Goldfish, I haven't played it.

workin on a lil somethin

phazedplasma · Sep 22, 2016

GB control is dumb

Fuzzery · Sep 22, 2016

Ashodin said:
That was a deck on MTG Goldfish, I haven't played it.

workin on a lil somethin

yissssss

Firemind · Sep 22, 2016

phazedplasma said:
GB control is dumb

GB anything is dumb

phazedplasma · Sep 22, 2016

actually nissa's renewal is dumb

SigmasonicX · Sep 22, 2016

LSV covering red today instead of black for some reason. He likes Spark of Creativity more than I would have thought.

And here's another Commander review of Kaladesh

Ashodin · Sep 22, 2016

Finished

Bonus Oviya Pashiri

GB thanks for the epic games, you almost beat the shit out of me with Ormendahl but Motorist + Chandra draw too stronk

"God's Beard!" · Sep 22, 2016

New KLD Modern list for those of us who appreciate the finer things in life.

Firemind said:
GB anything is dumb

:-(

Familienoberhauptvogel · Sep 23, 2016

Sometimes Reddit can be great

If that's the case, we'll have Dwarves, Humans, and Giants across RW. Which basically means R&D is just taking Boros creatures and clicking and dragging in the corner until they're the right size.

Ashodin · Sep 23, 2016

I expect everyone here to post physical evidence of their masterpieces

like this

Familienoberhauptvogel · Sep 23, 2016

How is Lightning Greaves one of the more expensive Inventions right now?

Ashodin · Sep 23, 2016

Familienoberhauptvogel said:
How is Lightning Greaves one of the more expensive Inventions right now?

every, single, commander deck

CoconutTank · Sep 23, 2016

So these new masterpiece swords, I think I can sort of understand the sword of feast and famine, but I don't see a usable/stable hilt for the other two swords. How are they meant to be wielded? Do they just sort of look pretty and grant their powers to the equipper through mere presence?

Ashodin · Sep 23, 2016

CoconutTank said:
So these new masterpiece swords, I think I can sort of understand the sword of feast and famine, but I don't see a usable/stable hilt for the other two swords. How are they meant to be wielded? Do they just sort of look pretty and grant their powers to the equipper through mere presence?

sword of light and shadow

Familienoberhauptvogel · Sep 23, 2016

Ashodin said:
every, single, commander deck

it's going for more than solemn simulacrum, gauntlet of power, scroll rack and chromatic lantern.

EDH aside It's going for more than affinity pieces.

CoconutTank said:
So these new masterpiece swords, I think I can sort of understand the sword of feast and famine, but I don't see a usable/stable hilt for the other two swords. How are they meant to be wielded? Do they just sort of look pretty and grant their powers to the equipper through mere presence?

clearly light and shadow is wielded backhand.

CoconutTank · Sep 23, 2016

Ashodin said:
sword of light and shadow

That doesn't seem to allow for a good stable grip, particularly with some heavy pointy metal coming out of one end. What if I really want to give the S&L sword a good swing?

(I'm sorry, this is a little weird on my part haha.)

((I also notice no explanation for the F&I sword NYAHAHAHA))

Ashodin · Sep 23, 2016

CoconutTank said:
That doesn't seem to allow for a good stable grip, particularly with some heavy pointy metal coming out of one end. What if I really want to give the S&L sword a good swing?

(I'm sorry, this is a little weird on my part haha.)

((I also notice no explanation for the F&I sword NYAHAHAHA))

nah I assume squeeze it and it comes together like an interlocking thing.

also here's fire and ice, took me a minute to figure it out

shrapnelmagnet · Sep 23, 2016

Is Spirits dead (lol) for Standard? I wanted to grab Rattlechains when he was 0.80, but totally flubbed. It's back down to 1.80.

Is it time? Is it Modern playable? Should I just keep holding and wait until rotation? I know it's not a lot of money, but the principle...

Ashodin · Sep 23, 2016

my god why am I so excited for this prerelease

I think it's because this set is so fucking cool

CoconutTank · Sep 23, 2016

Ashodin said:
nah I assume squeeze it and it comes together like an interlocking thing.

also here's fire and ice, took me a minute to figure it out

That is so weird :O

Ashodin · Sep 23, 2016

So I just saw this thing

+

barf

How about the flavor of

+

-Crew->

shrapnelmagnet · Sep 23, 2016

Ashodin said:
So I just saw this thing

Pretty neat... Weird that the artifact has flying by default and just needs to be creatured.

I was wondering if Kaladesh might have less mechanics to allow for Aether Revolt to have only a couple new ones while using existing ones. Might feel more connected, unlike Investigate which kinda suffered with EDM.

AKA more vehicles coming.

Ashodin · Sep 23, 2016

I expect Aether Revolt to have returning mechanics.

Familienoberhauptvogel · Sep 23, 2016

Sisay needs updated art for EDH. Bikini pirate is all sorts of dumb.

bigkrev · Sep 23, 2016

Ashodin said:
I expect everyone here to post physical evidence of their masterpieces

like this

Oh my god what the fuck happened to the side of the card?!?

HK-47 · Sep 23, 2016

Familienoberhauptvogel said:
it's going for more than solemn simulacrum, gauntlet of power, scroll rack and chromatic lantern.

EDH aside It's going for more than affinity pieces.

clearly light and shadow is wielded backhand.

Every. Single. EDH. Deck.

charlequin · Sep 23, 2016

Familienoberhauptvogel said:
it's going for more than solemn simulacrum, gauntlet of power, scroll rack and chromatic lantern.

None of which people run in 100% of Commander decks they build.

MoxManiac · Sep 23, 2016

Ashodin said:
I expect everyone here to post physical evidence of their masterpieces

like this

What is going on with the side of the card? Is that dirt or dust?

I am Error · Sep 23, 2016

Quick question in regards to the new mechanic "crew":

If you put an artifact-vehicle on to the battlefield this turn and crew it, can you immediately attack with it or does it have summoning sickness? I'm a bit confused by this rule and can't find a clear answer to my question. My guess is that it has summoning sickness because there's this guy:

But does that mean that it loses summoning sickness at the beginning of your next turn or does a vehicle always have it when you crew it? I'm so confused right now ...

El Topo · Sep 23, 2016

If a vehicle is crewed the same turn it came into play then it has summoning sickness, else it does not.
Speedway Fanatic allows you to crew and then attack with a vehicle the turn the vehicle came into play as it grants haste.

FrontalMonk · Sep 23, 2016

I am Error said:
Quick question in regards to the new mechanic "crew":

If you put an artifact-vehicle on to the battlefield this turn and crew it, can you immediately attack with it or does it have summoning sickness? I'm a bit confused by this rule and can't find a clear answer to my question. My guess is that it has summoning sickness because there's this guy:

But does that mean that it loses summoning sickness at the beginning of your next turn or does a vehicle always have it when you crew it? I'm so confused right now ...

I'm 99% sure that vehicles have summoning sickness the turn they come into play, because yeah, the entire point of Speedway Fanatic is to get around that. Summoning Sickness only occurs the turn it's summoned though. Crewing a vehicle doesn't make it leave play and re-enter as an artifact creature. It's the same methodology as nissa's typical "turn a forest into a creature" ability.

blindrocket · Sep 23, 2016

And you can crew vehicles at instant speed?

Violet_0 · Sep 23, 2016

is there a more badass card than Skysovereign in this set? You, like, drop it on the table and your opponent just knows it will fuck their shit up

Simply Sarah · Sep 23, 2016

I am Error said:
Quick question in regards to the new mechanic "crew":

If you put an artifact-vehicle on to the battlefield this turn and crew it, can you immediately attack with it or does it have summoning sickness? I'm a bit confused by this rule and can't find a clear answer to my question. My guess is that it has summoning sickness because there's this guy:

But does that mean that it loses summoning sickness at the beginning of your next turn or does a vehicle always have it when you crew it? I'm so confused right now ...

The way summoning sickness works is that any permanent that is a creature cannot use tap abilities or attack unless you were in control of that permanent at the start of your turn. If a non-creature becomes a creature then it will have summoning sickness if the permanent itself was not in play under your control at the start of the turn. It doesn't care about the fact that it just became a creature. Note that this means that if something comes into play on your turn and then becomes a creature you cannot use any tap abilities it might have. For example, if you play Cultivator's Caravan and then crew it that turn for some bizarre reason then you won't be able to tap it for mana that turn unless it has gotten haste somehow.

blindrocket said:
And you can crew vehicles at instant speed?

Yes, it can be done at instant speed. You can even crew a vehicle that has already been crewed that turn as long as you pay the full crew price.

I am Error · Sep 23, 2016

El Topo said:
If a vehicle is crewed the same turn it came into play then it has summoning sickness, else it does not.
Speedway Fanatic allows you to crew and then attack with a vehicle the turn the vehicle came into play as it grants haste.

FrontalMonk said:
.

Ok, I understand it now. Thanks!

Joe Molotov · Sep 23, 2016

Familienoberhauptvogel said:
Sisay needs updated art for EDH. Bikini pirate is all sorts of dumb.

Chainmail with boob socks is the hot new Fall look.

GregLombardi · Sep 23, 2016

Legacy Cube Draft Leagues on MTGO are just bad IMO. Anyone can have everything. Defeats the point of cube completely.

Violet_0 · Sep 23, 2016

SigmasonicX · Sep 23, 2016

I neglected to mention this before. If you're a new player interested in going to a prerelease, you really should register beforehand. So if you plan on going tomorrow, you need to call your local game store and register today! Find one close to you here. You can try to go into the store on the day of, but there likely won't be an open slot.

And LSV's Limited reviews of both black and green are up.

"God's Beard!" · Sep 23, 2016

Man, last prerelease I went to was BFZ and I haven't been to a game day since M15.

divisionbyzorro · Sep 23, 2016

GregLombardi said:
Legacy Cube Draft Leagues on MTGO are just bad IMO. Anyone can have everything. Defeats the point of cube completely.

You're not wrong, but "bad" isn't the word you're looking for. "Pointless," "stupid," "trash," or "dumpster fire" would be better.

blindrocket · Sep 23, 2016

divisionbyzorro said:
You're not wrong, but "bad" isn't the word you're looking for. "Pointless," "stupid," "trash," or "dumpster fire" would be better.

charlequin · Sep 23, 2016

As more high-res pics of the Inventions flow in:

It confirms three things for us:

The Inventions use an FTV foiling process or something very similar
The copper bordering is visually textured so it reflects light like a rough surface
They still haven't fixed the right-side border scuffing issue from the expeditions, lmao

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