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Steam should ban games from requesting administrative rights elevation. That's shady as fuck.
Game installers and patchers need elevated rights though.
Steam should ban games from requesting administrative rights elevation. That's shady as fuck.
Okay that's it. I'm done with this game for now. I'll delete it form my PS4 and come back to it in a year or two IF they've handled this shit show by then.
I know this doesn't even affect PS4 players but Capcom being THIS shitty towards their fanbase is something that I can't simply accept out of principle.
You gotta love GAF. People are just waiting to mock anything.You sure showed them as a PS4 player!
The rollback to the PC version of SFV prior to the security measure update is now live. The new September content is included.
Yup, gave me a 33mb update half an hour ago. Can confirm booting the game doesn't result in any elevation request or anything anymore.
You gotta love GAF. People are just waiting to mock anything.
What do you want me to do? Go burn down their offices or something? I've already (foolishly) bought the game digitally so all I can do now is stop playing it. Mock that all you want.
I honestly can't believe how anyone could get behind shit like this. I love a lot of Capcom games myself so I get that, but that doesn't mean that I have to be okay with or deny Capcom's shitty attitude towards their fans/customers.You don't need to defend yourself. The people who will continue to support this shitshow can only be sarcastic because thats their only option. There's no real defense force for what happened.
You don't need to defend yourself. The people who will continue to support this shitshow can only be sarcastic because thats their only option. There's no real defense force for what happened.
They already removed it: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1283645Well, there goes any chance of me picking up SF5 for cheap somewhere down the line. Absolutely abhorrent behavior on Capcom's part.
Can Valve take a game off Steam for behavior like this? I'm kind of amazed it would ever be allowed, especially in a post-launch update.
If I'm not mistaken, steam has a certificate itself which allows it to install any games the way it does.I'll try to reword the explanation of this "driver". The key concept to understand is that it doesn't do anti-cheat stuff. Perhaps because cheats will change and they didn't want to change the driver, or perhaps because developing drivers the right way is hard and they didn't want to poke Windows for constant driver changes during development of anti-cheat.
So instead this driver allows programs to temporarily install their own drivers, which can be anti-cheat programs, but which also can be malware like keyloggers and such. It apparently doesn't verify what it runs at all. Whoever allowed this to be distributed either uses some insanely painful security system and assumes everyone does too, or doesn't know/give a shit about security, or had a very bad headache that day.
This assumes disassembly is correct. I don't know much about disassembling so I can't verify it.
One thing that confuses me: is this driver signed by MS? If so, aaaaaaaaaaaa!? If not, doesn't Windows block that? If indirectly, who signed it directly?
I'm not defending this practise but people like you will always continue to moan, whine and nitpick about this "shit show" because it suits your agenda. Capcom made a massive mistake and have addressed it promptly so there's two things players can do. 1. Continue to cry about it or 2. Move on and play a game they enjoy with more content and a highly anticipated character in the latest update. So yeah, no sarcastic tone here.
I'm not defending this practise but people like you will always continue to moan, whine and nitpick about this "shit show" because it suits your agenda. Capcom made a massive mistake and have addressed it promptly so there's two things players can do. 1. Continue to cry about it or 2. Move on and play a game they enjoy with more content and a highly anticipated character in the latest update. So yeah, no sarcastic tone here.
I'll try to reword the explanation of this "driver". The key concept to understand is that it doesn't do anti-cheat stuff. Perhaps because cheats will change and they didn't want to change the driver, or perhaps because developing drivers the right way is hard and they didn't want to poke Windows for constant driver changes during development of anti-cheat.
So instead this driver allows programs to temporarily install their own drivers, which can be anti-cheat programs, but which also can be malware like keyloggers and such. It apparently doesn't verify what it runs at all. Whoever allowed this to be distributed either uses some insanely painful security system and assumes everyone does too, or doesn't know/give a shit about security, or had a very bad headache that day.
This assumes disassembly is correct. I don't know much about disassembling so I can't verify it.
One thing that confuses me: is this driver signed by MS? If so, aaaaaaaaaaaa!? If not, doesn't Windows block that? If indirectly, who signed it directly?
A decade after Sony's rootkit debacle, how could any company think this was okay?
So you basically swallow anything Capcom throws at you with a big smile?I'm not defending this practise but people like you will always continue to moan, whine and nitpick about this "shit show" because it suits your agenda. Capcom made a massive mistake and have addressed it promptly so there's two things players can do. 1. Continue to cry about it or 2. Move on and play a game they enjoy with more content and a highly anticipated character in the latest update. So yeah, no sarcastic tone here.
I'm not defending Capcom at all over this whole fiasco, but it's really bugging me that people are still complaining that Capcom is doing stuff like this instead of implementing things like direct input support or other quality. These wouldn't be worked on by the same people. They wouldn't be doing just one thing at a time. That's not how game development works.
You're forgetting the obvious #3: recognize Capcom made an enormous, possibly criminal mistake and deserve both widespread condemnation and plenty of future caution.
God, pretending we should ignore this now just because they fixed their incredibly stupid and selfish mistake relatively quickly? No, on a scale of Boycott to Ignore, these jerks are sitting much, much closer to the former. I haven't decided myself, but I'm certainly not going to ignore this insulting shit they pulled.
yeah was really crazy back then with securom rootkit and the mess around starforceA decade after Sony's rootkit debacle, how could any company think this was okay?
You crying about poor old Capcom getting slagged on is infinitely more annoying than a million whiners crying about no arcade mode or whatever. They deserve all the bullshit in the world for literally putting an unnecessary and risky attack vector on people's computers because they decided to take shortcuts over fucking costume mods and Capcom funny money. This isn't some shit you just shrug off. This ain't "lol oh Capcom you goofs no hard feelings"
I've been very patient with them for months now through the thick and thin of the kind of resources this game clearly doesn't have, but this is new levels of incompetence, even for them.
Edit: And I'd like to point out even after their rollback patch or whatever came out this morning, I still had to rummage through my own damn folders to delete that .sys file.
I forgot how much Gaf love to gets the pitchforks out. You'd think Capcom or other game companies came to your house and shat on your doorstep going by some of the OTT reactions. Like I said, Capcom made a huge mistake which they quickly (much to some people's demise) rectified so it's either people stop moaning or continue to play a game they enjoy. I'm not going to punish the entire development team (those who actually work on content) who have worked so hard on the game over stupid decisions from thier awful management. That sort of mob mentality is very nasty and ignorant.
Yeah, no. If they have money to spare for this shit, they have money to spare to pay an intern to program a simple key rebind interface.
Stop moaning? Stop moaning?!I forgot how much Gaf love to gets the pitchforks out. You'd think Capcom or other game companies came to your house and shat on your doorstep going by some of the OTT reactions. Like I said, Capcom made a huge mistake which they quickly (much to some people's demise) rectified so it's either people stop moaning or continue to play a game they enjoy. I'm not going to punish the entire development team (those who actually work on content) who have worked so hard on the game over stupid decisions from thier awful management. That sort of mob mentality is very nasty and ignorant.
I forgot how much Gaf love to gets the pitchforks out. You'd think Capcom or other game companies came to your house and shat on your doorstep going by some of the OTT reactions. Like I said, Capcom made a huge mistake which they quickly (much to some people's demise) rectified so it's either people stop moaning or continue to play a game they enjoy. I'm not going to punish the entire development team (those who actually work on content) who have worked so hard on the game over stupid decisions from thier awful management. That sort of mob mentality is very nasty and ignorant.
You have to manually delete capcom.sys. Apart from that, yes.So are we good after the rollback? I'm confused.
You have to manually delete capcom.sys. Apart from that, yes.