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Sony: We outsell our competitors by around 50% on a weekly basis in PALand
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Blue Ninja
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Yeah, it seems a lot of us Europeans are still Sony loyalists after the long PS1/PS2 reign. I personally know almost no-one that has a PS3, almost all my friends own a 360, but I guess we're the exception to the rule. :lol
Zeouterlimits
Member
22m LTD in PAL-lands (therefore Australia inclusive?).
Wonder what 360 is..
Wonder what 360 is..
manzo
Member
"Only" 50%? That should be more, since there is absolutely no reason in Europe to buy a 360 over PS3 these days, unless you have to have Halo. Live is such a shitty value here and PS3 does everything and more what the 360 does.
This comes from a person who has mained 360 since its launch.
This comes from a person who has mained 360 since its launch.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Not really, they all have they deep flaws.Withnail said:
Zeouterlimits
Member
Live sub can be bought quite cheaply online.. Never mind the 1 for 1 month deals.
**Not that MS don't treat us like shit, MS are extremely quick to prioritise and leave all EU non-UK countries sitting for months for a feature**
Oh really? Care to back this up?Yobalt said:
**Not that MS don't treat us like shit, MS are extremely quick to prioritise and leave all EU non-UK countries sitting for months for a feature**
Graphics Horse
Member
Parmenides said:
Mainland PAL land. I think he's talking national trends here rather than the average, so UK would knock a big chunk off that 50%.
Also: did I see this article posted yesterday and the topic got locked? No idea what that was about, it deserves a second chance.
Lagspike_exe
Member
This is without pricecut. MS had a huge advanage thanks to the Arcade.
Regarding why - Xbox Live is awful in Europe, Playstation has great brandawarness and GAMES! Singstar, GT, formerly Eyepet etc. are all huge in Europe.
Regarding why - Xbox Live is awful in Europe, Playstation has great brandawarness and GAMES! Singstar, GT, formerly Eyepet etc. are all huge in Europe.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Eyepet was never huge, and here in Western Europe Singstar has really dropped off in the past 2 years.Lagspike_exe said:
Lagspike_exe
Member
Yeah, I meant Eyetoy or whatever the camera is called.Zeouterlimits said:
Phonomezer
Banned
sublimit said:Europe will always be Sonyland (and no we don't consider the UK as Europe)
It's like Nintendo never existed!
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It sounds like he's saying +50% in the mainland, but -50% in the UK. So what is it combined?
Seems weird to separate the numbers like that.
Seems weird to separate the numbers like that.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Not as many features, certainly. Pointless? Eh, I'd say that about Gold in general. Cross-game Party-chat is it's saving grace, considering Sony didn't have the foresight to make it possible on their systemMajine said:
I think it was more of a dig at the being treated like Kings comment.Gustav said:
When was the euro PS3 launch? Yeah.
Blue Ninja
Member
Sony's like a bad boyfriend, I guess. They keep going back to it, even after getting treated like shit every time. :loldarkwing said:
Yeah, but Microsoft isn't any better. In a perfect world, they'd either drop the price for XBL in Europe or add enough features to make it worth 60, but this is not a perfect world. =(
Rolf NB said:
http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?t=442320&nojs=1
it was posted yesterday but the thread got locked for some reason
SolidSnakex
Member
Lagspike_exe said:
GT5 is also still on several European charts.
yurinka
Member
Still no signs of Plus in Vita. Looks like party chat in Vita is free, available to all users.Majine said:
Consider that in most of these countries there should be more PS3 than 360 sold, so the US "I prefer Live because it has more friends playing there" thing here is inverted.Majine said:
In addition to that, a lot of Gold features aren't available here.
Here he main reason to buy a 360 was "PS3 is still too expensive and 360 is cheaper (even if its online isnt' free) and has more or less the same games" and "cross-game voice chat + all consoles bundled with headset".
Here Halo or Gears aren't as huge as they are in US, and these are the only 360 exclusives that would move a decent number of more people here to buy a console.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I agree 100%. Still think XBLM is a better and more EU friendly store than PSN.Majine said:
Lagspike_exe
Member
It sold over 500k in Germany alone.SolidSnakex said:
Naked Snake
Member
PALand has always been Sony Land, no real surprises there seeing how Wii isn't even putting up a fight.
Hmm. I would not recommend the Xbox to any of my friends, to be honest. I'd actually not recommend any Microsoft product (except maybe Windows & Office) to anyone who doesn't live in the US (and maybe the UK). Microsoft just doesn't give a shit about what customers outside of these two regions want.
I'd recommend everyone to buy a PS3. Free online is a huge factor. I don't mind paying for a great service and I don't even mind paying 60 a year for a great service. Xbox Live Gold is no such service.
The Xbox also isn't the "platform of choice" over here for retailers. The PS3 version is always the one that gets the most attention (ads), the PS3 section is way bigger at my local MediaMarkt and Saturn than the Xbox section, and Sony is a company that's willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money to make sure people know they're selling PlayStation on which you can play FIFA.
I'd recommend everyone to buy a PS3. Free online is a huge factor. I don't mind paying for a great service and I don't even mind paying 60 a year for a great service. Xbox Live Gold is no such service.
The Xbox also isn't the "platform of choice" over here for retailers. The PS3 version is always the one that gets the most attention (ads), the PS3 section is way bigger at my local MediaMarkt and Saturn than the Xbox section, and Sony is a company that's willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money to make sure people know they're selling PlayStation on which you can play FIFA.
Yes. The PSN Store is horrible and the fact that Sony is too lazy to do something about it is sad. I don't even want to browse the Store anymore to find out what's new. I visit the store, open the search and download the content I already know.Majine said:
snap0212 said:
The PSN Store's biggest issue is that every piece of content is individual and not attached to other stuff from the same game, and I have a feeling that's undermining the search engine, which, needless to say, is terrible. I once saw a piece of DLC that didn't even say what game it was for. I think the description gave some hints, but damn.
They need to rebuild it from the ground up, and attach all relevant content together.
The situation in the UK is strange. I don't think it's too out of line to assume it's because the UK shares much of it's culture with the US by way of our media, not mainland Europe. It also came out way later and at an obscene price, but even still, I would have expected some leveling out by now. In fact I'd have expected the 360 to do better in Europe and worse in the UK because I believe broadband is much better there, so their need for a bluray player is diminished somewhat.
