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Loxley · Nov 13, 2011

Pandoracell said:
So i'm wondering if anybody can comment on my performance. My specs are:

AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2ghz
GTX 460
4GB RAM

Even with everything set to low, when i'm in certain areas (towns, in particular) my framerate takes a nosedive. We're talking sub 25 fps. Everything else is mostly in the 60 range. And even when settings are in the high/ultra range, my framerate never seems to stay near a locked 60, it hovers wildly in the 40-60 range, which doesn't seem right. Any tips? I really just want a locked 60 fps, regardless of how terrible the game looks, and I can't seem to reach that. Until I buy a gamepad, sub 60 fps is unbearable for me with M/KB. I'm fairly certain my CPU is holding me back a bit, but I don't want to hear that :/

I'm having the exact same problem and have yet to find a fix. I updated my NVIDIA drivers (I'm running on a GTX 560m) but all that seemed to do was reduce the frequency of the framerate drops by a little bit. I've been fiddling with my settings and .ini file since the game went live nothing seems to work.

At the moment I can only guess this is something that can be fixed with a patch :/

Onemic · Nov 13, 2011

5770 simply cant handle this game, so much for being under "recommended" specs.

Misanthropy · Nov 13, 2011

I'm playing this game on high with an AMD 4870. What can I do to maximize my performance/graphics?

Corky · Nov 13, 2011

Pandoracell said:
I'm going to post two screenshots to show my issue. These were taken with the 'low' preset, nothing else changed. In the first screenshot, i'm getting ~30pfs. In the second, 60. I'm in the same location, I simply turned around before taking the second shot. I understand the scene in the first shot is a fair bit more complex, but it shouldn't cut my framerate by nearly half.

http://i.imgur.com/5T1yC.jpg[/IMG

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/J4Nsx.jpg[/IMG[/QUOTE]

The entire game is like this for me, I stroll around all happy and all but once every hour or so I find a spot in the game where it for no obvious reason just can't go above 30 fps, it just sits there.

MrBig · Nov 13, 2011

onemic said:
5770 simply cant handle this game, so much for being under "recommended" specs.

If my 9600 can still pump 40-60fps out of this you're doing something wrong.

The M.O.B · Nov 13, 2011

MrBig said:
If my 9600 can still pump 40-60fps out of this you're doing something wrong.

No, the game is doing something wrong. I have a AMD 6870 and I can barely manage 30fps in outside areas on medium settings.

Others in this thread with lesser gpu have been getting better framerate than me. This shouldn't be happening and Bethesda needs to fix this crap asap.

Complistic · Nov 13, 2011

KKRT00 said:
Do You guys get random crashes to windows?

I've noticed it to happen mostly when i'm chasing something or using spells after chase, so dont know if its my GPU overheating [havent got any problem in BF 3 at all] or uGrid=7 is screwing with me, or its just a Skyrim thing on my config and drivers ...

Yeah i've got some pretty random CTDs. Very normal for a bethesda game. Will take a few patches I'm sure. Save often.

BoobPhysics101 · Nov 13, 2011

The M.O.B said:
No, the game is doing something wrong. I have a AMD 6870 and I can barely manage 30fps in outside areas on medium settings.

Others in this thread with lesser gpu have been getting better framerate than me. This shouldn't be happening and Bethesda needs to fix this crap asap.

I expect patches/drivers to hopefully smooth things out. Bethesda really dropped the ball with this game... the PC support so far feels really pitiful.

Corky · Nov 13, 2011

Complistic said:
Yeah i've got some pretty random CTDs. Very normal for a bethesda game. Will take a few patches I'm sure. Save often.

how often? I'm getting one every hmm, maybe 10-15 minutes, sometimes with an error prompt and sometimes the game window just vanishes as if I pressed alt+f4-

Kyaw · Nov 13, 2011

It might be the ugrid stuff.

ShdwDrake · Nov 13, 2011

Is there anyway to get a quick bar in this game? I dont get why theres none there... really enjoying it though and I didnt care for Oblivion.

TheExodu5 · Nov 13, 2011

ShdwDrake said:
Is there anyway to get a quick bar in this game? I dont get why theres none there... really enjoying it though and I didnt care for Oblivion.

Add an item/equip/spell to favorite. Open favorites with Q, hover over the desired item, and press the number you want to bind it to.

SalomonA · Nov 13, 2011

Amd Phenom 965 @ 3,4
Asus Direct CUII GTX 570
4gb 1333mhz ddr3 ram

Playing at 1680 x 1050res
Setting high with some settings at medium. 2x AA, 8x AF. FXAA turnes on.
60fps all the time, tho I have some serious fps drops while in towns/villages. Why? Its like 25-30 fps sometimes.

Cat in the Hat · Nov 13, 2011

I have an arrow stuck in my face. How do I get rid of it?

Deleted member 17706 · Nov 13, 2011

Wazzim said:
The threads at the Bethesda forum are very interesting to read. The game really is a technical mess on PC, they just screwed us PC gamers over for no reason. They got their fanbase on PC, no silly sales excuses this time.

It's really not a technical mess at all. There will always be some vocal people for whom the game doesn't work, but compared to previous Bethesda releases, this game is super polished.

Deleted member 10571 · Nov 13, 2011

Zefah said:
It's really not a technical mess at all. There will always be some vocal people for whom the game doesn't work, but compared to previous Bethesda releases, this game is super polished.

Yes. Except for a few rare crashes I have absolutely no issues at all so far, I think. And I'm on AMD.

Those things happen to like 3 people, and 30 more are repeating it without actually playing the game. Also, the UI is fine, screw the haters

Deleted member 17706 · Nov 13, 2011

Bufbaf said:
Yes. Except for a few rare crashes I have absolutely no issues at all so far, I think. And I'm on AMD.

Those things happen to like 3 people, and 30 more are repeating it without actually playing the game. Also, the UI is fine, screw the haters

I said it earlier in this thread, but I think the UI works really well with mouse/keyboard. There are things that could be improved, but it doesn't feel Borderlands-style hamfisted like so many people seem to be implying. It's a huge improvement over Oblivion's UI at least.

catapult37 · Nov 13, 2011

2500k (4.7ghz) 2x 6950s. 4 GB RAM, SSD.

I have tried a dozen different combinations of settings, including disabling CF entirely, and I am getting CONSTANT flickering/disappearing textures. I know the cliche about waiting on Bethesda games, and hopefully it will get there, but for now, I just have to get this out:

FUCK YOU, BETHESDA. FUCK. YOU. I want my $60 and my last nine months of being excited about this game back.

It just sucks, because I know there is a game that I would really enjoy buried somehwere under all this shit. DAMMIT.

iNvid02 · Nov 13, 2011

i fixed my flickering for the most part, just disabled aa and af from within the game and did it through nvidia inspector instead. rarely happens now

Kyaw · Nov 13, 2011

Is there no motion blur in this game?

It would have been quite nice to have motion blur in this type of game...

Deleted member 17706 · Nov 13, 2011

Kyaw said:
Is there no motion blur in this game?

It would have been quite nice to have motion blur in this type of game...

Disappointing indeed.

There is this setting in the SkyrimPrefs.ini, but changing it to 1 doesn't seem to do anything for me.

[BlurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0

Betta Lines · Nov 13, 2011

I would be ok with a locked 30fps and decent motion blur, rather than this spiky 60fps nightmare. Although if I could just have 60fps that would be fine too.

KKRT00 · Nov 13, 2011

Complistic said:
Yeah i've got some pretty random CTDs. Very normal for a bethesda game. Will take a few patches I'm sure. Save often.

Its not my first Bethesda game, so i'm pretty skilled at using F5 ;D

Corky said:
how often? I'm getting one every hmm, maybe 10-15 minutes, sometimes with an error prompt and sometimes the game window just vanishes as if I pressed alt+f4-

Like 3-4 times in 30 minutes and then i played for almost hours without any problem.

Zefah said:
It's really not a technical mess at all. There will always be some vocal people for whom the game doesn't work, but compared to previous Bethesda releases, this game is super polished.

Actually is mostly technical and development problems, so PC port problems. Earlier Bethesda games were fucked up on all platform because of quest bugs, AI bugs, geometry bugs and so on, here we have only technical problems because they ignored PC version and havent checked it almost at all and definitely they havent tested it on mouse and keyboard setup ;\

Durante · Nov 13, 2011

Zefah said:
It's really not a technical mess at all. There will always be some vocal people for whom the game doesn't work, but compared to previous Bethesda releases, this game is super polished.

I agree.

In fact, according to Steam I've been playing for 15 hours, and I haven't had a single crash.

Ninja Beagle · Nov 13, 2011

Well, stopped at a couple places and they were sold out of Skyrim. Is there any reason to avoid buying it off Steam?

Blackface · Nov 13, 2011

Anyone saying this game isn't anything but amazing looking is out of their minds (unless on console). These were compressed twice, so a bit pixelated. Nothing fancy done to them, everything default. It looks better in motion.

To Far Away Times · Nov 13, 2011

I'm pretty impressed how well the game runs with my rig:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000
9800GT
4GB Ram
Windows 7

Mostly medium settings. Roughly 60fps in indoor areas, 30fps in big open areas. 2X anti aliasing at 1680 x 1050 resolution. Game looks great too.

LiquidMetal14 · Nov 13, 2011

These shots are non ini edited. The only thing I did add was shadow detail to the trees. Everything ultra and maxed out.

6970 2GB OC@950/1450
2500k@4.5ghz
8GB RAM
W7x64

Other that some odd stuttering, the game is always at 60 except for like 1% of the time. Mainly after Riverwood (can't remember the name of that White something town, Whiterun?).

Cheech · Nov 13, 2011

IMO, some of you guys are screwing yourselves by messing with so many settings.

I have a last gen i5-760 running at 2.8ghz, 8 gigs of ram, 2x6870s. Running AMD driver 11.10, with the latest crossfire profile, and I am having ZERO issues. I went into the Skyrim video options and bumped the draw distance up a bit, but I've screwed with nothing else and the game runs like a dream. Also, I haven't messed with anything in the AMD driver settings.

Tattooth · Nov 13, 2011

Does anyone else get extremely long load times with the FPS limiter, when I limit to 30 FPS, my load times must quadruple. They go back to normal when I disable it, though.

LiquidMetal14 · Nov 13, 2011

This is a thread that welcomes the casual and mainly for the enthusiast. And to help each other. If you can make the game shine and have the HW do it, they will. Anyone with great HW wants to make it look as good as possible.

Deleted member 10571 · Nov 13, 2011

Blackface said:
Anyone saying this game isn't anything but amazing looking is out of their minds

There you go

KKRT00 · Nov 13, 2011

LiquidMetal14 said:

Mine for comparison 1.5x1.5 OGSSAA + 4x MSAA

markot · Nov 13, 2011

My only problem is that I cant stop imagining what they could do, with a good engine >.<

They have great artists and suchly, but there is only so much polishing a turd can be.

LCfiner · Nov 13, 2011

I am consistently impressed who well this is running on my machine.

I got the 2009 iMac with a 2.66 Ghz Core i5 and a weak 480M with 512 MB VRAM.

the only compromises I need to make is turn off AA, run at 1920 x 1080 instead of 2560 x 1440 (but it still doesnt look jaggy) and make sure none of the setting are higher than high.

game runs at 30 fps with frequent jumps to 60 fps indoors. feels smooth and looks really nice.

if I bump up shadows and decals to ultra, turn on 2X AA, then I get mid 20s fps and its too choppy for my taste and doesnt look too much better.

LiquidMetal14 · Nov 13, 2011

KKRT00 said:
Mine for comparison 1.5x1.5 OGSSAA + 4x MSAA

http://i.imgur.com/SCB28.jpg[img][/QUOTE]
You in a different cave? Very similar rock patterns at the exits but yours has grass so it's def different. I want to see that locale now, just to compare :P

6 or 8 more pics in my next post, warning. Then no more spam from me.

KKRT00 · Nov 13, 2011

LiquidMetal14 said:
You in a different cave? Very similar rock patterns at the exits but yours has grass so it's def different. I want to see that locale now, just to compare

6 or 8 more pics in my next post, warning. Then no more spam from me.

I'm pretty sure its the same, on the east from whiterun, quest to bring back guy's father sword, right? Its an entrance to the Boss.

Dmax3901 · Nov 13, 2011

BoobPhysics101 said:

Skyrimprefs.ini

Change these settings. I found these in the Skyrim main folder under VeryHigh.ini, so ensure these are set appropriately:

Code:

[Display]
iMultiSample=16
iWaterMultisamples=4
iMaxAnisotropy=16
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iTexMipMapMinimum=4
fDecalLOD1=500.0000
fDecalLOD2=1000.0000
iActorShadowCountInt=6
iActorShadowCountExt=6
fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000
fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000
iShadowMapResolution=4096
fShadowBiasScale=0.15
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3
bFXAAEnabled=0
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=9999999.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=9999999.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=9999999.0000
fShadowDistance=8000.0000
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25


[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=15.0000

[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=75000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=70000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=35000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000

[Grass]
b30GrassVS=1
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

[Imagespace]
iRadialBlurLevel=2

[Water]
bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectLODObjects=1
bReflectLODTrees=1
bReflectSky=1

[BlurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[Decals]
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxDecals=1000
uMaxSkinDecals=100
uMaxSkinDecalPerActor=60

Give that a shot, ymmv, adjust to preferences. I still need to work on those settings as they MAY cause random CTD's (crash to desktop).

Quick question, what are you saying we do here? Go into veryhigh.ini and check that these are all as is? Or add all those to Skyrimprefs? I am confused.

Chiggs · Nov 13, 2011

Guess I must be out of my mind, because this game isn't stunning...and I'm not just talking about the visuals. :/

oneils · Nov 13, 2011

Pandoracell said:
I'm going to post two screenshots to show my issue. These were taken with the 'low' preset, nothing else changed. In the first screenshot, i'm getting ~30pfs. In the second, 60. I'm in the same location, I simply turned around before taking the second shot. I understand the scene in the first shot is a fair bit more complex, but it shouldn't cut my framerate by nearly half.

Do you have vsync on? If so, turn it off and see what happens. Also, what frame rate are you getting in the first shot?

unagisensei · Nov 13, 2011

Pandoracell said:
I'm going to post two screenshots to show my issue. These were taken with the 'low' preset, nothing else changed. In the first screenshot, i'm getting ~30pfs. In the second, 60. I'm in the same location, I simply turned around before taking the second shot. I understand the scene in the first shot is a fair bit more complex, but it shouldn't cut my framerate by nearly half.

Pretty sure this is a result of triplebuffering and vsync being enabled. If my understanding on how that stuff works is correct, you're always going to end up with FPS locked at 60fps for anything that would normally produce a >60fps without vsync, and for any scene that would normally produce an fps between 30 and 60, the vsync will cause it to be locked at 30fps (i.e. 1/2 your presumably 60hz refresh rate)

goodfella · Nov 13, 2011

Funny how there is no fps change from when I go from fxaa to 4xmsaa with multisampling MSAA.

The game is definitely limited by the CPU.

LiquidMetal14 · Nov 13, 2011

KKRT00 said:
I'm pretty sure its the same, on east of whiterun, quest to bring back guy's father sword, right? Its an entrance to the Boss.

I think it may be but not the same exit. Look at my ground texture. It exits into the snow.

A few more caps

KKRT00 · Nov 13, 2011

goodfella said:
Fuuny how there is no fps change from when I go from fxaa to 4xmsaa with multisampling MSAA.

The game is definitely limited by the CPU.

Its not and there is fps hit ;p, just not that big, because game is optimized for 4x MSAA, thats the AA X360 is using.

blame space · Nov 13, 2011

whoever suggested turning off AA and just using FXAA is spot-on. running ultra settings now at my display's full resolution

LiquidMetal14 · Nov 13, 2011

blame space said:
whoever suggested turning off AA and just using FXAA is spot-on. running ultra settings now at my display's full resolution

It's worth it just for the performance gains, for sure.

Durante · Nov 13, 2011

LiquidMetal14 said:
I think it may be but not the same exit. Look at my ground texture. It exits into the snow.

A few more caps

Heh, I've got almost the same one at night.

KKRT00 said:
Its not and there is fps hit ;p, just not that big, because game is optimized for 4x MSAA, thats the AA X360 is using.

You really can't optimize a game specifically for 4xMSAA.

Sanic · Nov 13, 2011

oneils said:
Do you have vsync on? If so, turn it off and see what happens. Also, what frame rate are you getting in the first shot?

tried a bit ago with vsync turned off and I'm getting between 36-38 fps when looking in the general direction of the first shot.

oneils · Nov 13, 2011

blame space said:
whoever suggested turning off AA and just using FXAA is spot-on. running ultra settings now at my display's full resolution

Are you able to get shadow details at ultra too? If so, that is awesome. I had to turn down shadow details to high so that I could use 8xAA.

What are your specs? I'm using a i5 2500K with a 460GTX 768MB. Running it at 1920x1080.

LiquidMetal14 · Nov 13, 2011

Looks really nice Durante.

I liked that spot due to the wall textures and such.

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