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SovanJedi · Dec 23, 2008

I'm ignoring the fact that Sonic is in this game and looking at it as it's own seperate game - it looks fine so far and the fewer attempts there are at claiming this is a return to form for the series the better, since there is less chance of being disappointed by it.

I tried the Sonic Unleashed demo yesterday and it was pretty fun, but I feel if it was less compared to Sonic games of old and acclaimed for it's own merits I think people would be less inclined to think bad of it - as a Sonic game it's still kind of a letdown, but as anything else it'd be rather entertaining.

So I'm going to pretend that's Alex Kidd or Wonder Boy running around in those lovely screenshots instead of the blue hedgehog, so I don't have anything to compare it to and consequently be let down by when it doesn't live up to what is basically now a dead dream.

Wizpig · Dec 23, 2008

Link Man said:
Except the cycle seems to be running in reverse for this game.

Yup

Exactly my thoughts.
We have 3 "shitty" [they are not shitty at all compared to Omega, Rouge or those characters] friends but they are OPTIONAL and anyways they are usually portrayed as "almost fast as Sonic", so the gameplay will be the same.
There's just no reason to troll this game, IMHO.
Except maybe this

:lol Storybook series
[who am i kidding, i like the idea

i just don't like THIS setting]

Chao · Dec 23, 2008

That's a nice cover, I like the "storybook series" thing too.

Hero of Legend · Dec 23, 2008

I finally managed to upload the original resolution of the box:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/GoldMetalSonic/SatBK.jpg

Had to convert the .bmp file to .jpg which really decreased the file size while staying the same quality-wise. I usually convert them to .png for the best quality possible. Only Photobucket was able to upload the image at this size since its file size was less than 1MB.

flickr regardless just downscales the image to 1024.

Dedication Through Light · Dec 26, 2008

What is up with that glove that Sonic is wearing? It looks powerful!

Blablurn · Dec 26, 2008

the screens remind me of

Fun Factor · Dec 26, 2008

Blablurn said:
the screens remind me of

Where is that from?

Tailzo · Dec 26, 2008

Blablurn said:
the screens remind me of
(early Sonic 2k6 screen)

Yeah, me too.

Dever · Dec 26, 2008

FTWer said:
Where is that from?

Early screen from Sonic 2006. Your avatar is pretty fitting. :lol

NTom64 · Dec 26, 2008

FTWer said:
Where is that from?

It's from the very first trailer of 06.

EDIT: That particular scene wasn't in this trailer for some reason (really cannot find it anywhere), but trust me when I say it's from 06.

On a side note, why does Sonic's model look better in that trailer than the long-Sonic shit they ended up with? He's always looks angry, as well. Then again, he's in 06 so that makes sense really :lol

Hero of Legend · Jan 8, 2009

The new NP is already out, and it contains a single-page preview of the game.

New shots... with Shadow!

Here's the summary, posted by a user named Staf, from a not-so-well-known Sonic fansite. I'd reveal the name, but the very page that this summary is from includes a scan...:

The Feb. 2009 Nintendo Power has a small bit about the Black Knight in it. A couple interesting facts from it:

It uses woodcut-esque cut-scenes aside from the opening movie (like Sonic and the Secret Rings did with storybook scenes).

Shadow is Sir Lancelot, Knuckles is Sir Gawain, and Amy Rose is the Lady of the Lake.

Shadow and Knuckles are playable in the multiplayer battles after youve defeated them in the one-on-one duels in single player mode.

The multiplayer mode lets you either go sword-to-sword against up to three others in a free-for-all or you team up together to defeat a giant baddie as quickly as possible.

This time around Ive scanned the entire article instead of just the images for you guys. Arent I nice? I suggest you still go out and buy the Feb 2009 issue of Nintendo Power to see the article for yourselves. It also has an interesting reader question. The reader mentions that Sonic X-Treme (the cancelled Sega Saturn game) kind of has a Super Mario Galaxy feeling to it. Chris Slate responds saying that he wrote a cover story on Sonic X-Treme for Game Players back in the day and does see a small resemblence now that he looks back. I wonder if Chris has any other inside info about the game from the press side of things

EDIT: Staf told me the cover story, and it's...

Phantasy Star 0!!!

Also in the issue, as Staf says:

This issue was an RPG special. The cover story was Phantasy Star 0, but it also had Arc Rise Fantasia, Dragon Quest V, Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon, and Sands of Destruction, to name a few.

batbeg · Jan 8, 2009

So... there's still not going to be a head-to-head racing multiplayer?

Shots look nice. And as one of the few people to like the storybook styled storytelling, I'm happy to see the concept is still in place. I do love the bullshit tone of the article though, which suggests they enjoy the humor or characters in the world.

And dear God, I hope them saying the multiplayer isn't up to par yet isn't a sign of it being farmed out to that shitty German or whatever company that made the minigames in Secret Rings.

Catalix · Jan 8, 2009

Hero of Legend said:
New shots... with Shadow!

:/

Hero of Legend · Jan 8, 2009

batbeg said:
So... there's still not going to be a head-to-head racing multiplayer?

Shots look nice. And as one of the few people to like the storybook styled storytelling, I'm happy to see the concept is still in place. I do love the bullshit tone of the article though, which suggests they enjoy the humor or characters in the world.

And dear God, I hope them saying the multiplayer isn't up to par yet isn't a sign of it being farmed out to that shitty German or whatever company that made the minigames in Secret Rings.

NOWPRO did the mini-games in SR, and I'm pretty damn sure they're Japanese.

batbeg · Jan 8, 2009

Hero of Legend said:
NOWPRO did the mini-games in SR, and I'm pretty damn sure they're Japanese.

So they did. Was passing on second-hand information.

In that case, I sure as fuck hope NOWPRO aren't involved in this. Same difference.

Hero of Legend · Jan 8, 2009

A minor correction on the cutscenes:

They're animated!

Whether they're fully animated like a 2D movie, or that NP was referring to moving panels ala SR specifically isn't clear.

Flying_Phoenix · Jan 9, 2009

Link said:
May as well post it now, just to keep everyone grounded:

Sonic and the Secret Rings wasn't received well and was a "disapointment"?

ThatObviousUser · Jan 9, 2009

Hero of Legend said:
A minor correction on the cutscenes:

They're animated!

Whether they're fully animated like a 2D movie, or that NP was referring to moving panels ala SR specifically isn't clear.

Screw moving panels, seriously. :/

Black-Wind · Jan 9, 2009

Hero of Legend said:
A minor correction on the cutscenes:

They're animated!
Whether they're fully animated like a 2D movie, or that NP was referring to moving panels ala SR specifically isn't clear.

FUCK YEAH!

abstract alien · Jan 9, 2009

I kinda liked the moving panels :^/

ThatObviousUser · Jan 9, 2009

abstract alien said:
I kinda liked the moving panels :^/

:/

batbeg · Jan 9, 2009

abstract alien said:
I kinda liked the moving panels :^/

I loved them.

Fuck it, I'm not a fan of anything in the Sonic universe beyond the games, but for the first time ever, I appreciated the artstyle and I loved unlocking things from the game.

McLovin · Jan 9, 2009

Who cares if he has a sword.. its a kids game at the end of the day. Hell the target demographic would probably prefer it if Sonic wore a Jet pack and wielded a bazooka :/

Warren Ellis · Jan 9, 2009

Shadow is Sir Lancelot, Knuckles is Sir Gawain, and Amy Rose is the Lady of the Lake.

:lol

BobFromPikeCreek · Jan 9, 2009

Flying_Phoenix said:
Sonic and the Secret Rings wasn't received well and was a "disapointment"?

Yeah.

Guybrush Threepwood · Jan 9, 2009

Flying_Phoenix said:
Sonic and the Secret Rings wasn't received well and was a "disapointment"?

uh... yeah

Especially since it was hyped up as being the best Sonic game since Sonic 3&K

Black-Wind · Jan 9, 2009

Guybrush Threepwood said:
uh... yeah

Especially since it was hyped up as being the best Sonic game since Sonic 3&K

Wat?

ThatObviousUser · Jan 9, 2009

Guybrush Threepwood said:
uh... yeah

Especially since it was hyped up as being the best Sonic game since Sonic 3&K

Bwhahaha. :lol Surely you jest.

Coming off of Sonic 2006 no one believed in Secret Rings at all, let alone compared it to any of the old games.

Guybrush Threepwood · Jan 9, 2009

http://wii.ign.com/articles/707/707191p1.html

Warren Ellis · Jan 9, 2009

Guybrush Threepwood said:
uh... yeah

Especially since it was hyped up as being the best Sonic game since Sonic 3&K*

* because it is on wii

fixed.

abstract alien · Jan 9, 2009

Andrex said:
:/

Black-Wind · Jan 9, 2009

Andrex said:
Bwhahaha. :lol Surely you jest.

Coming off of Sonic 2006 no one believed in Secret Rings at all, let alone compared it to any of the old games.

Plus, it was seen as the "cheap side title to the REAL Sonic game on the HD consoles".

Which it was . . . but that was the best choice I have seen Sega make with the series in a long time. Turned out to be way better than the HD game and thats a pretty bad ass out come on it's own (seeing how shitty the HD title was it wasn't that hard).

grandjedi6 · Jan 9, 2009

Andrex said:
Bwhahaha. :lol Surely you jest.

Coming off of Sonic 2006 no one believed in Secret Rings at all, let alone compared it to any of the old games.

Black-Wind said:
Plus, it was seen as the "cheap side title to the REAL Sonic game on the HD consoles".

What the.... You guys weren't even around the internet then, were you? Almost everyone viewed Sonic 2006 has shit and regularly countered that people should just wait for Secret Rings. The hype for Secret Rings was huge in Sonic terms.

ThatObviousUser · Jan 9, 2009

abstract alien said:

grandjedi6 said:
What the.... You guys weren't even around the internet then, were you? Almost everyone viewed Sonic 2006 has shit and regularly countered that people should just wait for Secret Rings. The hype for Secret Rings was huge in Sonic terms.

I highly, highly doubt the successor to one of the worst games this gen, and one that was openly admitted to having a much smaller budget, would be hyped as being anything close to as good as Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

Black-Wind · Jan 9, 2009

grandjedi6 said:
What the.... You guys weren't even around the internet then, were you? Almost everyone viewed Sonic 2006 has shit and regularly countered that people should just wait for Secret Rings. The hype for Secret Rings was huge in Sonic terms.

I was on the web back then and I dont remember very much hype for the title compared to 06 before 06 released.

But I do remember people saying it would shit all over 06 once 06 was released (which it did).

PantherAttacks · Jan 9, 2009

disappeared said:
Let's try something here...

If you can still tell this is a Sonic game then...

Ah fuck it, who are we kidding anymore?

I showed these pics to my wife and asked her what game it was. She guessed "the next Morrowind?".

grandjedi6 · Jan 9, 2009

Gaf's opinion on Sonic and the Secret Rings....

BEFORE SONIC 2006:

BobJustBob said:
Where's Sonic Wii? You know, the good one.

RaijinFY said:
Looks really good to me. If I was getting a Wii, I would definitely look for this game.

BostonZelda33 said:
Sonic for the Wii, is going to be a great pick me up and play game.
It doesn't have to be deep and long.

Think about what made Sonic popular in the 16 bit era and what is featured in the Wii version.

-Speed- yup

-lush colorful graphics - yup-

-simple, yet fun controls - yup

-multiple routes and bosses- ?? not yet revealed.

So from my eyes it seems like Sonic and Secret Rings will be a great adventure title for Wii.

AniHawk said:
Best 3D Sonic ever.

AFTER SONIC 2006:

gutter_trash said:
I just got my Wii yesterday!!
and I got a 40 dollar discount on it!!

I'm ready for Sonic & The Secret Rings, and since it is not the same team that worked on Sonic and Shitty Friends next gen, I'm confident that Sonic Wii will be really good.

AniHawk said:
On February 21, Sega will be born again.

Welcome back, guys.

okay, so it's just two games. BUT STILL

Evilink said:
I'm not even a Sonic fan and I can tell this is gonna be "teh hawtness"

BradVanDam said:
this shall tide us over till mario galaxy drops

gutter_trash · Jan 9, 2009

:lol :lol :lol
you got time on your hands to have dug that up

abstract alien · Jan 9, 2009

grandjedi6 said:
search master

(neutral) grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
(Today, 05:42 AM)

Your tag is spot on

Black-Wind · Jan 9, 2009

grandjedi6 said:
Gaf's opinion on Sonic and the Secret Rings....

BEFORE SONIC 2006:

Where's Sonic Wii? You know, the good one.

Click to expand...

I was the good one (-_^)

Looks really good to me. If I was getting a Wii, I would definitely look for this game.

Click to expand...

You should (-_^)

So from my eyes it seems like Sonic and Secret Rings will be a great adventure title for Wii.

Click to expand...

It was . . . a pretty good plateformer (-_^)
(wtf at adventure title)

Best 3D Sonic ever.

Click to expand...

AniHawk is odd (-_^)
(But I can't dissagree. I didn't like any other 3D Sonic myself . .. but I came up with that after I played it! )

AFTER SONIC 2006:

I'm ready for Sonic & The Secret Rings, and since it is not the same team that worked on Sonic and Shitty Friends next gen, I'm confident that Sonic Wii will be really good.

Click to expand...

Yes, it was pretty good (-_^)

I'm not even a Sonic fan and I can tell this is gonna be "teh hawtness"

Click to expand...

It IS the hawtness (-_^)

I don't get it . . . that wasn't too hypey and the game actually turned out good and better than the 06 title.

gdt · Jan 9, 2009

bow to grandjedi6

Edit: Sometimes I think you really are Jon Stewart.

Teknoman · Jan 9, 2009

Controls sound nice. Now to just get samples of the soundtrack.

pakkit · Jan 9, 2009

Black-Wind said:
I don't get it . . . that wasn't too hypey and the game actually turned out good and better than the 06 title.

The fucks with those faces? Kittonwy's alt?

I hope that this is like Secret of the Rings and they're hiding the BLOW YOU AWAY visually levels for the game (whatever that level in that game is where you're running behind that airship and you're being shot at...took my breath away from a visual standpoint).

Teknoman · Jan 9, 2009

Probably going to tackle Journey to the West (Monkey King story right?) eventually. Really, i'm not sure how far they could take this. There arent THAT many famous "action packed" timeless stories. Wizard of Oz is possible (Emerald City is a given).

RobbieNick · Jan 9, 2009

McLovin said:
Who cares if he has a sword.. its a kids game at the end of the day. Hell the target demographic would probably prefer it if Sonic wore a Jet pack and wielded a bazooka :/

Space Sonic and the Attackers from planet G!!

Hell, anything's possible with the storybook series.

HUELEN10 · Jan 9, 2009

Just saw Shadow and I really like the direction his look took. Hopefully we will see Blaze and Amy soon!

PSGames · Jan 9, 2009

This really looks quite interesting and feels somewhat fresh. Good job Sega. Lets just hope the gameplay is up to par.

Rewrite · Jan 9, 2009

I loved Unleashed and I can't wait for this game!

Hero of Legend · Jan 11, 2009

New direct-feed screenshots (old if you've seen the last two Nintendo Power issues) from Sega's product page.

Sadly it seems that they only uploaded the medium size, I'm trying to figure out which word they used for the full sized ones, they used "med" for medium, I've tried "big", "lar" for large, no luck. :'(

Edit: And ESRB's description of the game:

Sonic and the Black Knight (Wii) - This is an action adventure game in which players assume the role of Sonic the Hedgehog who is summoned to help save King Arthurs Camelot. Players navigate through the kingdom by running and jumping around obstacles and collecting items such as gold rings. Sonic can slash at several phantom-like creatures with a sword, causing the creatures to flash and quickly disappear in a haze of purple mist. Players can also engage in one-on-one battles with fearsome knights, dragons, and boars. These boss battles usually involve more prolonged combat and sometimes are accompanied by realistic sounds of swords clashing and enemies crying out in pain.

HUELEN10 · Jan 11, 2009

Lacelot looks awesome.

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