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Syriel · Mar 31, 2017

Looks like the Millennial generation has regressed a bit from Gen X, at least when it comes to how the roles of men and women in the home are viewed.

In 1994, 42% of American high school seniors (age 18) agreed that the best kind of family was one in which the man was the outside ”achiever" and the woman took care of the home. In 2014, 58% said this was true.

That's according to sociologists Joanna Pepin of the University of Maryland and David Cotter of Union College, who examined almost 40 years of surveys taken by American high-school seniors. They found that millennials (those born between 1982 and the early 2000s), have a surprising set of views on gender.

Separate research looking at the General Social Survey (which has reported on the same questions for 40 years and breaks the answers down by age) bolsters these findings. It found that in 1994, 16% of young American adults (aged 18-25) believed that a woman's place was in the home. By 2014, that figure had risen to 25%.

Cotter says that if the trend continues, the gender revolution—which was already stalling by metrics of of female labor force participation and the pace of closing the gender pay gap —will slow even more dramatically.

”If they persist with these attitudes, they are not likely to be pushing for organizational or societal changes in those family arrangements," he said.

The change in responses to the General Social Survey was even more dramatic: In 1994, 83% of young men rejected the notion that the model family has a male breadwinner. A decade later, that figure dropped to 55%. Female support for the male breadwinner model rose in kind. In 1994, 15% of young women agreed that the male-breadwinner model was superior; by 2014, 28% preferred it.

And the root cause for the change? Everyone's favorite boogeyman "economic anxiety" is to blame.

University of Utah sociologist Dan Carlson offers another explanation: Many millennials watched their parents balancing two careers with little institutional support—affordable child care, paid parental leave, flexible and well-paid work—and decided it was way too stressful. He writes:

”My own work and that of others would suggest that the retreat from egalitarian behaviors and values in many families likely reflects the obstacles couples face in pursuing an egalitarian division of financial and family responsibilities – an arrangement that the majority of U.S. couples state is very important to a successful marriage (Pew 2016) and that researchers find to have increasingly positive consequences for couples' well-being."

The financial crisis, he noted, also forced many men out of work as women increased their workload, imposing a gender shift that many had not willingly chosen. When the change is involuntary, he argues, it results in higher levels of marital dissatisfaction.

The article says that a similar regression in values has not been seen in Europe, where there is a stronger social net for families.

Source:
https://qz.com/946816/millennials-a...parents-to-think-womens-place-is-in-the-home/

Send me to the kitchen if old.

spekkeh · Mar 31, 2017

Does anyone have a link to the study? I could imagine other demographics playing a part here as well.

ZOONAMI · Mar 31, 2017

Wow that chart nearly a 20% regression.

7Th · Mar 31, 2017

Millennials were a mistake.

FinaruDensetsu · Mar 31, 2017

If true this makes no sense. Millenials who are having so much difficulty even finding employment believe that their future families can be supported on a single income? Pretty backwards.

smokeandmirrors · Mar 31, 2017

A woman's place is where ever the fuck she wants it to be GODDAMNIT

Reg · Mar 31, 2017

Dumb shits.

SRG01 · Mar 31, 2017

Dual-income parents are the absolute minimum to live in some cities. How on earth are people going to survive on one income?

entremet · Mar 31, 2017

Each generation rebels against the previous.

How About No · Mar 31, 2017

The fuck milennials?

Mathieran · Mar 31, 2017

I don't know a single millennial with those views. So weird that this is a thing.

I sometimes do wonder what would happen if we went back to one working parent being the norm though. But it wouldn't matter to me which parent.

Strangelove77 · Mar 31, 2017

We're just being ironic.

Shaanyboi · Mar 31, 2017

zero_suit · Mar 31, 2017

Dual income is almost mandatory to own a home in most places. This is madness.

Bonen no Max'd · Mar 31, 2017

People who are 18 now aren't millennials, unless we're just going to define anyone born after 1980 as millennials forever. The generation after us, though, is much more religious than we are, which could play a part.

Guevara · Mar 31, 2017

It's going to be really hard to separate out the respondents who realize the social contract is broken with regard to work, from the millennial bro chauvinists.

Shoeless · Mar 31, 2017

Okay, so if this data is actually true, then... why? How can Millennials ignore the financial realities and focus on relationship benefits? Have they bought into some kind of myth about happiness in poverty, or are they convinced that jobs are about to get a massive hike in pay that will justify single-income families again?

Thatonemoor · Mar 31, 2017

7Th said:
Millennials were a mistake.

Umm... sorry for bring born I guess?

Anyway yeah guess even my generation isn't immune to becoming more sexist with age.

Matsukaze · Mar 31, 2017

That is pretty disappointing. :/

Wasn't there a study last year that found millenial men were also less likely to believe women faced discrimination in the workplace?

Skatterd · Mar 31, 2017

shitposting is powerful and meme magic is real

tomtom94 · Mar 31, 2017

A lot of new conservative pundits are portraying themselves as rebellious anti-mainstream figures and they seem to take particular aim at feminism. I can't help but feel there's a link.

G0523 · Mar 31, 2017

Do you guys think it's because male millenials want someone to take care of them? Some of my guy friends think similar to this. They like that women are more empowered now than ever but they personally want someone to do all the so-called wifely duties that I've noticed their mothers did. Doesn't help that they're all single too. Lol.

Brashnir · Mar 31, 2017

Gen X stays winning.

George Oscar Bluth II · Mar 31, 2017

I kid you not, I think memes are a part of this. I've seen so many "women in the kitchen" memes.

SinCityAssassin · Mar 31, 2017

We call them scabs

Jackpot · Mar 31, 2017

American Millenials. There are plenty of other 1st world countries not surveyed.

tomtom94 · Mar 31, 2017

George Oscar Bluth II said:
I kid you not, I think memes are a part of this. I've seen so many "women in the kitchen" memes I've seen.

Yup. "Ironic" sexism and racism is a big problem.

LizardKing · Mar 31, 2017

Syriel said:
And the root cause for the change? Everyone's favorite boogeyman "economic anxiety" is to blame.

Holy fucking shit. GAF get it through your heads that economic anxiety and....

University of Utah sociologist Dan Carlson offers another explanation: Many millennials watched their parents balancing two careers with little institutional support—affordable child care, paid parental leave, flexible and well-paid work—and decided it was way too stressful. He writes:

this is not a fucking boogeyman. This has been part of the backbone of the Democratic party platform for the better part of 100 years. We haven't addressed this much in the last 20 years, and as a result we're failing and now even liberals think it's a "boogeyman." Trump literally steals the idea and people to appeal to from Democrats past and now we want to pretend it doesn't exist? Jesus are we this lost?

.JayZii · Mar 31, 2017

"Millennials (also known as Generation Y) are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates for when this cohort starts or ends; demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000s as ending birth years."

Just going to put that there before all the 30-somethings start talking shit about Millennials.

DJ_Lae · Mar 31, 2017

I mean, attitudes toward single vs dual incomes, sure. But who cares whether it's the man or the woman who stays home in a single income situation?

My wife stays home, but it's only because daycare would run us $3,000+ a month, so she'd have to make $50-$60k before tax to even break even (let alone losing bonding time with the kids).

spons · Mar 31, 2017

FinaruDensetsu said:
If true this makes no sense. Millenials who are having so much difficulty even finding employment believe that their future families can be supported on a single income? Pretty backwards.

Wishful thinking. A single income should be enough to sustain a family and live a happy life.

Dude Abides · Mar 31, 2017

Gen X stays winning.

Millennials take another L.

ascii42 · Mar 31, 2017

FinaruDensetsu said:
If true this makes no sense. Millenials who are having so much difficulty even finding employment believe that their future families can be supported on a single income? Pretty backwards.

Depending on the woman's (or man's if he's the one who earns less) salary, childcare can be more expensive than it's worth.

SlimySnake · Mar 31, 2017

lol half of us would get banned if we said that here.

I have noticed it in women too. They are more and more ok with staying home raising a family.

boiled goose · Mar 31, 2017

FinaruDensetsu said:
If true this makes no sense. Millenials who are having so much difficulty even finding employment believe that their future families can be supported on a single income? Pretty backwards.

Yes. This doesn't make sense to me.
I'm skeptical of the study based on my personal experience with this generation.

Millenials can't afford homes but want a woman to stay in what home again?

Not buying it.

Holmes · Mar 31, 2017

The olds in this thread don't understand. Millennials believe everyone's place is in the home because we don't like going out.

Autoignition · Mar 31, 2017

We really need to redefine what the hell a Millennial is. The range is so fucking huge. My brother is technically a Millennial, and he graduated high school in 2001. I seriously doubt his graduating class sees the world the same as 2017's graduating class.

Also, the rise of the internet and the overtaking of anonymous culture that's flooded with neo-Nazis led to a generational regression? Color me fucking shocked.

Lucreto · Mar 31, 2017

A image of one of these "Millennials"

Ac30 · Mar 31, 2017

SlimySnake said:
lol half of us would get banned if we said that here.

I have noticed it in women too. They are more and more ok with staying home raising a family.

I've noticed the exact opposite, then again I don't live in the US.

NewDust · Mar 31, 2017

Dude Abides said:
Gen X stays winning.

Millennials take another L.

http://www.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/20-percent-of-millennials-openly-identify-as-LGBTQ-11040294.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#photo-10451816

Millennials love them or hate them are leading the charge in openly declaring their sexualities, and supporting those who do not identify as heterosexual and cisgender (those whose gender identity corresponds to their birth sex).

Syriel · Mar 31, 2017

Bonen no Max'd said:
People who are 18 now aren't millennials, unless we're just going to define anyone born after 1980 as millennials forever. The generation after us, though, is much more religious than we are, which could play a part.

The study covers the full millennial generation.

Someone born in 1996 would be 18 in 2014 (which is the last year that the study covered).

Wilsongt · Mar 31, 2017

Trump youth?

Trump youth.

Vulcano's assistant · Mar 31, 2017

Obviously caused by the lack shoulder pads in women business suits while millennials were growing up

Dude Abides · Mar 31, 2017

NewDust said:
http://www.sfgate.com/lifestyle/article/20-percent-of-millennials-openly-identify-as-LGBTQ-11040294.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#photo-10451816

It's nice you're piggybacking on previous generations' accomplishments inLGBT issues. That's what's supposed to happen. But in the area that's the subject of the OP, millennials are regressing.

Also, nobody should take Generation Warz all that seriously.

Azzurri · Mar 31, 2017

SlimySnake said:
lol half of us would get banned if we said that here.

I have noticed it in women too. They are more and more ok with staying home raising a family.

From personal experience with my friends and groups of women I've talked to most of them have told me if given the the chance, they would rather stay home and raise their children if the guy made enough money to support both of them.

Aces&Eights · Mar 31, 2017

Dude Abides said:
Gen X stays winning.

Millennials take another L.

Yep. My kid is off to college and my woman partner of 10 years has been doing the "I'm sick of working, I wish I could just stay home and you go to work lol". I'm like, screw that. We need the money and I would resent that every day I had to get up and go to work and you get to sleep in and eat Lucky Charms in bed with the puppy lol. We both 43.

orochi91 · Mar 31, 2017

Yea.

This is basically my sisters.

They're both in Uni working towards Finance/Accounting degrees, but don't really wanna work after graduating. They just wanna marry and chill.

That level of laziness is so infuriating.

SilentRacoon · Mar 31, 2017

So much for millennials not being entitled little fucks.

Stallion Dan · Mar 31, 2017

Probably need someone to replace their mother since cannot do shit for themselves and just cry some form of injustice at every single problem, which doesn't actually achieve anything in the real world.

Nabbis · Mar 31, 2017

Im too lazy to look it up but if the statement was the very same as the one in the diagram, both options are wrong.

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