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Kaldaien's Nier Mod has an anti-piracy check - People got mad

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Chairmanchuck

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So Kaldaiens FAR (Fix Automatas Resolution) Mod addd an anti-piracy check by checking whether the steam_api.dll file is legitimate.

So some people got mad and two people spammed his feedback thread and Kaldaien also banned them somehow from using the mod.
 
Fair play, he can do what he wants with his own mod. He probably wants to support Square in bringing more games like NIER to the PC. Somebody will likely develop a way to circumvent the checks anyway (I mean they did crack denuvo lol)
 
Chairmanchuck said:
So Kaldaiens FAR (Fix Automatas Resolution) Mod addd an anti-piracy check by checking whether the steam_api.dll file is legitimate.

So some people got mad and two people spammed his feedback thread and Kaldaien also banned them somehow from using the mod.
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That's concerning. Is the mod communicating with a server?
 
Massaki said:
Fair play, he can do what he wants with his own mod. He probably wants to support Square in bringing more games like NIER to the PC. Somebody will likely develop a way to circumvent the checks anyway (I mean they did crack denuvo lol)
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That's pretty much all that can be said.

Mod his mod if you want to play on a pirated version. That's fair game. Flex ya self.
 
Massaki said:
Fair play, he can do what he wants with his own mod. He probably wants to support Square in bringing more games like NIER to the PC. Somebody will likely develop a way to circumvent the checks anyway (I mean they did crack denuvo lol)
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This

Any antecedents of mods with anti piracy measures?
 
As much as our ego loves this, it's quite concerning that the mod has to connect to an unknown server to check files. Who knows what else the mod checks for or otherwise secretly installs on your computer. Mods are best used as offline programs for security reasons.
 
squall23 said:
Was this what Kaldaien got banned for?
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I haven't read this specific thread but before he has some temper issues when arguing with people. Not surprised if he got banned for that.

Plumpbiscuit said:
As much as our ego loves this, it's quite concerning that the mod has to connect to an unknown server to check files. Who knows what else the mod checks for or otherwise secretly installs on your computer. Mods are best used as offline programs for security reasons.
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IIRC, his mod has its own update server. You can update the mod with its own manager program.
Also the the mods are all free software so you can compile them yourself.
 
Holy shit, I thought youtube comment sections were bad. Now I remember why I don't browse steam forums.

If you can be banned for being rude, that thread needs to be nuked from orbit.
 
Solution: don't pirate games.

Plumpbiscuit said:
As much as our ego loves this, it's quite concerning that the mod has to connect to an unknown server to check files. Who knows what else the mod checks for or otherwise secretly installs on your computer. Mods are best used as offline programs for security reasons.
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Hopefully it isn't.
 
Did he get banned for insulting people or banned for some part of his mod violating Steam TOS?
 
Don't pirate Nier. It's a fucking masterpiece, and well worth your time and money.

good luck getting the final ending without a server connection
 
Hah, though you're getting the lesser experience if you can't connect to an online server anyway.

I'll just leave it at that.
 
Yeah as much as I hate piracy as the next guy. This isn't the right way of doing it. How about something less DRMy like showing a dialog before the game starts up?
 
Blam said:
Yeah as much as I hate piracy as the next guy. This isn't the right way of doing it. How about something less DRMy like showing a dialog before the game starts up?
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It is a mod. You can still pirate the Game as its cracked. You just cant use the mod.
 
Yeah, it seems like a decent thing to do for a developer, if only to stop people with weird issues due to piracy asking for support.
 
Cyanity said:
Don't pirate Nier. It's a fucking masterpiece, and well worth your time and money.

good luck getting the final ending without a server connection
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This isn't about pirating the game, Kale' made a mod that allowed for alt resolutions that weren't supported by bass game.
 
His method isn't particularly robust, it certainly doesn't compare to modern DRM. If someone really wanted to, they could make his mod work with a pirated copy.

However, somebody would have to work to do that.
 
Honestly, that's a bit concerning. I didn't know he could do something like that. Maybe I just didn't read the thread properly before installing the mod.

I'm totally fine with the mod not working on pirated copies, but that was already modded by pirates. As always with this kind of stuff, only the honest consumers are at risk here, pirates find a way to circumvent any of the crap we have to deal with.

It is a mod, though, so I guess I could always just uninstall if I'm not comfortable with it.
 
JustSomeone said:
If it's that easy to detect piracy why don't games use this method?
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Because the cracked exe is made to work together with the altered steamapi.dll

Hux1ey said:
Because of how he acts on Steam forums. He's an egomaniacal man-child.
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Is he? I've had complaints about changes he made to TZFix (which resulted in bad performance drops on my end) and he responded by calmly explaining his reasoning for the changes made, he's always quick to respond if you have a question too
 
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