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McConnell concedes GOP may not be able to repeal ObamaCare
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RPGCrazied
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Time to stop playing games and go talk to Democrats and get us single payer.
Deuce Deuce
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That'd be wonderful news that we *might* not go backwards.
They should be thrilled as well since it might mean no public option/single-payer.
They should be thrilled as well since it might mean no public option/single-payer.
GrizzleBoy
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It's a trap.
How About No
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STAY ON GUARD
ShadowSwordmaster
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Always stay on guard.
infiniteloop
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DONT BELIVE HIS LIES
Autodidact
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I'll quote a line from All the President's Men that describes almost every facet of this shitshow, from legislation to Russia:
Jack Scofield
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Ryan said the same thing after the House failed to pass their bill. I won't underestimate the Republicans' ability to rally behind a cause, no matter how stupid the cause is.
Yep. Stay vigilant.
Yep. They tried to make this happen even though the majority of folks, some republicans included hated it (especially when they found out ACA and Obamacare were the same thing)
Never underestimate their ability to simply not give a fuck about their fellow man.
ShadowSwordmaster
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These are not the brightest people.
Have you tried to shake things up for 6 months? It is exhausting.
Netherscourge
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This doesn't sound like a concession. It sounds like a threat.
Me: Sees thread title. Thinks, "Get fucked, turtle!" Comes into thread. Sees the OP.
Oh yeah.
AuthenticM
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Get fucked, McConnell. Piece of shit.
Neuromancer
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What if they formed a group with members from both parties and independents and had them put their heads together and come up with some sort of compromise?
Absolutely don't trust McConnell. Seeing on twitter that even Senators like Moran (Source: https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/882996628889767936 ) are expressing concern about Obamacare repeal. Still don't let your guard down.
captmcblack
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This is a rope-a-dope. The pressure must never let up.
TheBryanJZX90
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Yeah don't forget that Trump can essentially cause the insurance exchanges to enter a death spiral.
RPGCrazied
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Working with Democrats!? That is blasphemy! But yeah, not understanding why everyone can't come together and finally solve healthcare.
Other countries do it, we are the only ones with fucked up healthcare.
shadowsdarknes
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I do think many of them would prefer to leave healthcare alone.
They'd be better off finding their tax breaks through other means. Cuz that's what this is mostly about.
As much as they want to chop Medicaid, it may not prove to be worth it right now.
They'd be better off finding their tax breaks through other means. Cuz that's what this is mostly about.
As much as they want to chop Medicaid, it may not prove to be worth it right now.
BlackGoku03
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They need to control the cost of healthcare. It's way too high for what doesn't stack up to several other countries. Lower, controlled prices will open the way to many options including cheaper deductables and maybe single payer.
Aaron Strife
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Democrats already tried that. They incorporated a number of Republican ideas into ACA and of course they're all the worst ones. They got jack shit for it in terms of support because McConnell demanded No votes from everyone, fearing even one Republican vote would give them cover to say it was bipartisan.
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Sweeney Tom
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Having complete control and being able to do less in over half a year than you ever have before is demoralizing as fuck. I'm glad they're getting humiliated and it's entirely their own fault from every angle
This is thinking too much. It wasn't a trap in the House. They just got a sudden surge of 'We have to get anything through to say we got it through, and the Senate will make its own version anyway' with Trump promising a party and everything. This isn't a trap either, but that's not to say that something may come up that changes senator minds.
I'm so happy it's happening to Mitch "I want to make this president a 1-term president" McConnell. Hell, he'll be lucky if this president completes a full term.
BrutishMrFish
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No one would want to say that aside from the guy who thinks health care is like a Lamborghini, naturally.
Would anyone really be surprised if he tore off his face out of nowhere and revealed that he was a lizardman the whole time?
MidgarBlowedUp
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I always wonder if he sleeps on his back how does he get up in the morning?
For theeee... God keep our land.... wait...
Fenderputty
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This is true and a prudent outlook. That being said, the house knew they could pass a bill and fall back on the Senate to either kill it or make changes. The Senate doesn't have that luxury. Whatever they pass will go to the house for a straight up and down vote and this was confirmed by Ryan.
The best thing McConnell could do is honestly make the BRCA go away or something. Because letting any version of this through will be suicidal for one wing of the party or another. If he pleases the moderate Collins wing, itll be a shit sandwich that offends the hard right and the Freedom Caucus when if they get forced to vote for it for final passage. Itll be a sop, confused, Diet Obamacare. Itll include some support for Planned Parenthood to appease Sen. Collins and similarly pressured Republicans, so talk radio will basically set itself on fire.
But if he forces a hard-right BRCA through the Senate, he puts his partys 2018 Senate map at risk. Voter opinion on basically every current Republican healthcare idea is profoundly sour, probably in every state. Does McConnell really think he can run the map? If not, well, then the bill is a bad idea. Oh, and moderate Republicans in the House cant immunize themselves from it either. Tom MacArthur of New Jersey tried to make the pill less bitter and got shellacked by fellow moderate representatives and his district.
But if he forces a hard-right BRCA through the Senate, he puts his partys 2018 Senate map at risk. Voter opinion on basically every current Republican healthcare idea is profoundly sour, probably in every state. Does McConnell really think he can run the map? If not, well, then the bill is a bad idea. Oh, and moderate Republicans in the House cant immunize themselves from it either. Tom MacArthur of New Jersey tried to make the pill less bitter and got shellacked by fellow moderate representatives and his district.
Fixed that for you.
EdibleKnife
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Please don't rest on this no matter how it sounds. Don't believe anything out of this man's mouth even if he says 'the sky is blue'. If you're not already contacting your senators, do so. Not just to talk about the AHCA and how damaging it would be but to urge them to consider healthcare alternatives like single payer.