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Parmenides · Oct 30, 2013

Nintendo - Consolidated Results for the Six Months Ended September 2013

(reported in Millions of yen)

1 USD ~ 98.18 yen
1 Euro ~ 134.90 yen

Net Sales ---> ¥ 196,582

Operating Loss ---> ¥ 23,278

Net Income ---> ¥ 600

Wii U Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

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Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      3.06     0.39      3.45     3.45

FY 2013/14     0.16     0.30      -        -        0.46     3.91



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2012/13       -        -      11.69    1.73      13.42    13.42   

FY 2013/14     1.03     5.27       -       -        6.30     19.71

3DS Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

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Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2010/11       -        -        -      3.61      3.61     3.61

FY 2011/12     0.71     2.36      8.36    2.10      13.53    17.13       

FY 2012/13     1.86     3.20      7.65    1.24      13.95    31.09

FY 2013/14     1.40     2.49       -       -        3.89     34.98



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2010/11      -        -         -      9.43      9.43     9.43

FY 2011/12     4.53     3.60     19.91    7.96      36.00    45.42    

FY 2012/13     7.39     11.64    20.53    10.05     49.61    95.03

FY 2013/14     11.01    16.37      -        -       27.38    122.42

Wii Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

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Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2006/07       -        -      3.19     2.65      5.84     5.84

FY 2007/08     3.43     3.90     6.96     4.32      18.61    24.45   

FY 2008/09     5.17     4.93     10.42    5.43      25.95    50.39

FY 2009/10     2.23     3.53     11.30    3.48      20.53    70.93

FY 2010/11     3.04     1.93     8.75     1.36      15.08    86.01

FY 2011/12     1.56     1.79     5.61     0.88      9.84     95.85

FY 2012/13     0.71     0.61     2.21     0.45      3.98     99.84

FY 2013/14     0.21     0.26      -        -        0.47     100.30   
             


Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY       LTD

FY 2006/07       -        -      17.51    11.33     28.84    28.84

FY 2007/08     15.98    20.99    47.38    35.25     119.60   148.44  

FY 2008/09     40.41    41.00    82.37    40.80     204.58   353.02

FY 2009/10     31.07    45.14    80.43    35.17     191.81   544.83 

FY 2010/11     28.17    37.04    85.33    20.72     171.26   716.09

FY 2011/12     13.44    23.01    52.61    13.31     102.37   818.46 

FY 2012/13     8.47     15.27    21.34    5.53      50.61    869.06

FY 2013/14     3.67     11.23      -       -        14.90    883.97

NDS Unit Sales (Unit: Million)

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Hardware       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY      LTD

FY 2004/05       -        -      2.84     2.43      5.27     5.27

FY 2005/06     1.38     2.19     5.59     2.30      11.46    16.73

FY 2006/07     4.54     5.55     8.79     4.68      23.56    40.29

FY 2007/08     6.98     6.37     11.15    5.81      30.31    70.60   

FY 2008/09     6.94     6.79     11.89    5.56      31.18    101.78

FY 2009/10     5.97     5.73     11.65    3.76      27.11    128.89

FY 2010/11     3.15     3.54     9.01     1.82      17.52    146.42

FY 2011/12     1.44     1.14     2.06     0.46      5.10     151.52

FY 2012/13     0.54     0.44     1.17     0.20      2.35     153.87

FY 2013/14     0.06     0.04      -        -        0.10     153.96



Software       Ap-Jn    Jl-Sp    Oc-Dc    Ja-Mr      FY       LTD

FY 2004/05       -        -      5.01     5.48      10.49    10.49

FY 2005/06     5.32     7.98     22.60    14.05     49.95    60.44

FY 2006/07     18.35    24.81    50.64    29.75     123.55   183.98

FY 2007/08     34.26    41.24    71.39    38.73     185.62   369.61   

FY 2008/09     36.59    48.43    78.76    33.53     197.31   566.92

FY 2009/10     29.09    42.06    50.23    30.21     151.59   718.5

FY 2010/11     22.42    32.42    44.15    21.99     120.98   839.48

FY 2011/12     12.13    16.86    22.21    9.62      60.82    900.31

FY 2012/13     8.48     8.82     12.94    3.14      33.38    933.69

FY 2013/14     2.15     3.10       -       -        5.25     938.93

FY 2013/14 Nintendo Forecast (Unit: Million)

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                3DS       NDS       Wii        Wii U
	
Hardware        18.00      -        2.00       9.00   

Software        80.00     10.00     20.00      38.00

curlyfriski · Oct 30, 2013

this is bad, right

Nikodemos · Oct 30, 2013

Parmenides said:
FY 2013/14 - Nintendo Forecast ---> WII U 9.00 M

Perfectly reasonable goals I see.

Striek · Oct 30, 2013

They still haven't updated (downgraded) their forecast for the Wii U? Oh dear, they must have big plans for the next six months.

shinra-bansho · Oct 30, 2013

300K shipment guess/prediction on the mark then.

Regional breakdown:
140k Japan
170K NA
-20K Europe/Other.

Still not revising that dumb forecast?

Oh, and still operating at a loss it seems. That 100 billion yen goal keeps getting further.

Zombie James · Oct 30, 2013

curlyfriski said:
this is bad, right

Almost double of last quarter's number, but 100K/month worldwide is still terrible.

Nightstick11 · Oct 30, 2013

And it launched pretty well... This thing just cratered

. *hugs Wii U*

dc89 · Oct 30, 2013

curlyfriski said:
this is bad, right

I think so.

Someone turn those numbers into one word for us who lack an understanding.

komplanen · Oct 30, 2013

Ouch. It was good knowing you :-(

Kazerei · Oct 30, 2013

That 9.00M forecast is just for this fiscal year, right? They've only shipped 0.46M... no way this holiday season is going to add several millions.

Averon · Oct 30, 2013

Striek said:
They still haven't updated (downgraded) their forecast for the Wii U? Oh dear, they must have big plans for the next six months.

Iwata's either blind to the Wii U's situation or incompetent.

Aquamarine · Oct 30, 2013

1Wii U Q2 2014 Hardware Shipments:

Japan: 140,000
Americas: 170,000
Europe: (-20,000)
Total: 310,000

Unknown Soldier · Oct 30, 2013

dc89 said:
I think so.

Someone turn those numbers into one word for us who lack an understanding.

Both the PS4 and Xbone should be at 3 or 4 million sold before the end of 2013, assuming they can manufacture enough of the things. If they can, they'll have caught the Wii U right at launch.

Poetic.Injustice · Oct 30, 2013

Yikes! Those are some pretty sad numbers.

Kenka · Oct 30, 2013

They want to sell ~~5 millions WiiU~~ by March.
That is really ambitious.

edit: holy damn. Thanks to correct me but goals appear now to be straight out insane.

cw_sasuke · Oct 30, 2013

Not really suprising - they were still selling launch basic and premiums till the release of Zelda and its bundle.
This holiday season is the make or break tme for the WiiU - they have many bundles and options out there, if those doesnt help...well yeah.

Edit:

So what about 3DS and other sales performances ? I know its popular to focus on the negative information but some perspective would be appreaciated.

shinra-bansho · Oct 30, 2013

Aquamarine said:
Europe: (-10,000)

6 month shipment is -10K.

10K shipped in Q1.

So should be -20K Q2?

Edit: Although that doesn't add up to 300K. Confused now.

Am I reading it wrong, or is it rounding at play - although I guess it's splitting hairs.

Aquamarine · Oct 30, 2013

Code:

             CONSOLIDATED FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS  
     (in billions of yen unless specified)                 
                 6 months ended      6 months ended       Year to  
                Sep 30, 2013        Sep 30, 2012     Mar 31, 2014  
                   LATEST             YEAR-AGO          LATEST     
                   RESULTS             RESULTS         FORECAST    
  Sales            196.58              200.99           920.00     
                 (-2.2 pct)          (-6.8 pct)       (+44.8 pct)  
  Operating      loss 23.28          loss 29.16         100.00     
  Recurring          1.25            loss 47.25          90.00     
                                                     (+758.6 pct)  
  Net              600 mln           loss 28.00          55.00     
                                                     (+674.7 pct)  
  EPS             4.69 yen         loss 218.93 yen    430.10 yen   
  Ann Div                            100.00 yen       260.00 yen   
  -Q2 div            nil                 nil                       
  -Q4 div                            100.00 yen       260.00 yen

michaelius · Oct 30, 2013

shinra-bansho said:
300K shipment guess/prediction on the mark then.

Regional breakdown:
140k Japan
170K NA
-20K Europe/Other.

Still not revising that dumb forecast?

Oh, and still operating at a loss it seems. That 100 billion yen goal keeps getting further.

edit: nevermind it's first time i see negative shipment

Sleeplessnights · Oct 30, 2013

dc89 said:
I think so.

Someone turn those numbers into one word for us who lack an understanding.

Wii U is selling at 100k a month, PS3 and Xbox 360 were doing an average of 1 million a month. PS4 is theoretically selling 1 million day one.

Also Nintendo made 6 dollars in Net Income lol

Imperfected · Oct 30, 2013

dc89 said:
I think so.

Someone turn those numbers into one word for us who lack an understanding.

"Shitastrophe."

Yagharek · Oct 30, 2013

After playing W101 all day, this is a tragedy.

Majine · Oct 30, 2013

Wii Fit U and Mario Kart 8.

If those won't do anything, all hope is lost.

Striek · Oct 30, 2013

Kenka said:
They want to sell 5 millions WiiU by March.
That is really ambitious.

They want to sell 8.6M by March. That forecast is for this fiscal year, not LTD.

jonno394 · Oct 30, 2013

Sleeplessnights said:
Wii U is selling at 100k a month, PS3 and Xbox 360 were doing an average of 1 million a month. PS4 is theoretically selling 1 million day one.

Also Nintendo made 6 dollars in Net Income lol

No it reads 600 million yen so $6million

michaelius · Oct 30, 2013

Kenka said:
They want to sell 5 millions WiiU by March.
That is really ambitious.

8.54 milions actualy

B.O.O.M · Oct 30, 2013

Horrid. And wtf they are still going with the 9mil target? :S

L~A · Oct 30, 2013

Here's what Nintendo got to say about those results.

Nintendo continues to pursue its basic strategy of “Gaming Population Expansion” by offering compelling products that anyone can enjoy, regardless of age, gender or gaming experience. During the six months ended September 30, 2013, Nintendo continued to experience strong sales in the Japanese market for “Nintendo 3DS (3DS, 3DS XL and 2DS),” as “Tomodachi Collection,” released in April in Japan, marked 1.63 million units in sales, while there have also been hit titles from third-party publishers. In the overseas markets,“Animal Crossing: New Leaf,” released in June in the Unites States and Europe, sold 2.01 million units (2.49 million units worldwide), while titles such as “Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon,” released in the previous fiscal year, and “Mario & Luigi: Dream Team” and “Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D,” both released in the current fiscal year, showed steady sales. As a result, the global sales of the “Nintendo 3DS” hardware and software reached 3.89 million and 27.38 million units respectively. With respect to “Wii U,” Nintendo released the key first-party title “Pikmin 3” in July in Japan and Europe, and in August in the United States, as well as another key first-party title “The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD” in September in Japan and the United States, but the global sales of the “Wii U” hardware and software reached only 0.46 million and 6.30 million units respectively. Regarding “Nintendo DS (DS, DS Lite, DSi and DSi XL),” the worldwide sales of its hardware and software were 0.10 million and 5.25 million units respectively. Also, the sales of the “Wii” hardware and software were 0.47 million and 14.90 million units respectively. Net sales as a result were 196.5 billion yen (of which overseas sales were 129.1 billion yen, or 65.7% of the total sales). The “Wii U” hardware still has a negative impact on Nintendo’s profits, owning mainly to its markdown in the United States and Europe, leading to a gross profit of 62.0 billion yen. The operating loss was 23.2 billion yen as total selling, general and administrative expenses exceeded gross profit due to enhancements in advertising activities to increase sales, and research and development for the “Wii U” software among others. As a result of exchange gains totaling 18.3 billion yen due to depreciation of the yen at the end of this period compared with the one at the end of the last fiscal year, ordinary income was 1.2 billion yen and net income was 0.6 billion yen

AniHawk · Oct 30, 2013

i don't know what you guys are all concerned about. they made six million dollars. man! if i had six million dollars, i'd like make half a zelda game.

and i'd call it the wind waker

JoeFenix · Oct 30, 2013

This is beyond horrible, I really hope it picks up soon.

I've grown to like this thing alot and want it to have atleast SOME success.

vinnygambini · Oct 30, 2013

The results are worse than I would of imagined.

Their inventories keep increasing. They are at over 2 Billion US $ worth of merchandise stocked.

Furthermore, the operating loss is much more pronounced than what was anticipated.

I am severely disappointed.

Zalman · Oct 30, 2013

A shame it isn't doing better. The console has some great exclusive titles.

Sleeplessnights · Oct 30, 2013

jonno394 said:
No it reads 600 million yen so $6million

I want to keep thinking it's only 6, pls

JoeM86 · Oct 30, 2013

Better than last year, but still not good. It's a start though. The Wii U price cut however, only covers one week and only in America. Europe and Japan got it at the start of October so we'll see any results of that in the next financials.

It's a shame, the Wii U is a fantastic console. Each week over the next month, I have a new game to get for it, too.

Sleeplessnights said:
Wii U is selling at 100k a month, PS3 and Xbox 360 were doing an average of 1 million a month. PS4 is theoretically selling 1 million day one.

Also Nintendo made 6 dollars in Net Income lol

The Wii U has proven that first month sales are irrelevant. The Wii U had a decent launch, it's just afterwards that it started faultering

Nikodemos · Oct 30, 2013

jonno394 said:
No it reads 600 million yen so $6million

From FOREX speculation, IIRC.

EDIT: Yup.

The operating loss was 23.2 billion yen as total selling, general and administrative expenses exceeded gross profit due to enhancements in advertising activities to increase sales, and research and development for the “Wii U” software among others. As a result of exchange gains totaling 18.3 billion yen due to depreciation of the yen at the end of this period compared with the one at the end of the last fiscal year, ordinary income was 1.2 billion yen and net income was 0.6 billion yen

Zombie James · Oct 30, 2013

michaelius said:
8.54 milions actualy

They'll have to go from 100K/month to 1.4M/month to make that target. They're fucking nuts.

Mockingbird · Oct 30, 2013

The only good thing we can expect from this is panic Nintendo's emergency Nintendo Direct.

Aquamarine · Oct 30, 2013

vinnygambini said:
The results are worse than I would of imagined.

Their inventories keep increasing. They are at over 2 Billion US $ worth of merchandise stocked.

Furthermore, the operating loss is much more pronounced than what was anticipated.

I am severely disappointed.

And yet Nintendo still keeps their forecast for both Wii U shipments AND Operating Income intact.

Nintendo seriously believes they'll ship 8.54 million consoles in six months when they actually shipped negative consoles in Europe from the July-September period. Yeah...the company is being incredibly stubborn.

Keyouta · Oct 30, 2013

. 46 million shipped in two quarters and they want to get to 9 million tons from 4? Good luck. I hope they can turn it around, though I suspect the launch of Sony and Microsoft's systems will do good in drowning out sales.

JoeM86 · Oct 30, 2013

Mockingbird said:
The only good thing we can expect from this is panic Nintendo's emergency Nintendo Direct.

Why would they do that? It's ridiculous that people continue to think this will happen. They have shown their hand for the near future. They can't suddenly magic new games to exist, and if they reveal stuff too early, people will lose interest.

L Thammy · Oct 30, 2013

Yikes. But it's to be expected. Things will certainly pick up a bit when the major titles hit, but it's not going to be enough. There needs to be a paradigm shift.

Mockingbird said:
The only good thing we can expect from this is panic Nintendo's emergency Nintendo Direct.

Games don't come out of nowhere. They could show off things that they'll take two more years to finish, I guess.

HooYaH · Oct 30, 2013

Mockingbird said:
The only good thing we can expect from this is panic Nintendo's emergency Nintendo Direct.

Free Wii U for all.

Busaiku · Oct 30, 2013

Negative shipments...

Ð¯AW · Oct 30, 2013

I guess all hope for any kind of decent 3rd party support is lost? Or maybe there wasn't any hope from the start. I'm probably going to end up buying the dam thing anyway, that one JRPG looks great.

Striek · Oct 30, 2013

3DS hardware sales and software sales are on polar opposite tracks atm. Hardware sales are bad, software is great. Wonder if Pokemon is going to turn things around in the west.

SmoothRunningGun · Oct 30, 2013

New bundle is out Friday in the US. Maybe it will do something...

dc89 · Oct 30, 2013

Unknown Soldier said:
Both the PS4 and Xbone should be at 3 or 4 million sold before the end of 2013, assuming they can manufacture enough of the things. If they can, they'll have caught the Wii U right at launch.

Sleeplessnights said:
Wii U is selling at 100k a month, PS3 and Xbox 360 were doing an average of 1 million a month. PS4 is theoretically selling 1 million day one.

Also Nintendo made 6 dollars in Net Income lol

Imperfected said:
"Shitastrophe."

Yikes.

Hold me Sleepless. When the Football lot see these numbers...
At least we'll always have our thread title. <3

Aquamarine · Oct 30, 2013

I told you guys there was going to be an investor briefing.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/schedule/index.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/index.html

Oct. 31, 2013 Second Quarter Financial Results Briefing
(for institutional investors and securities analysts)

Don't know why on earth Pachter said there wasn't going to be anything after the Earnings Release.

Sleeplessnights · Oct 30, 2013

JoeM86 said:
It's a shame, the Wii U is a fantastic console. Each week over the next month, I have a new game to get for it, too.

It really is, but it's way too late. 3 months after its release people were already talking about the PS4, the conversation changed and so did people's attention. Nintendo didn't do themselves any favoures with the huge drought in good software.

B.O.O.M · Oct 30, 2013

Mockingbird said:
The only good thing we can expect from this is panic Nintendo's emergency Nintendo Direct.

And what will this panic ND show exactly?

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