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Up to 2,000 people may have died in Boko Haram attack on a northern Nigerian town
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DXB-KNIGHT
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Extremist are having a field day in the World, the only way to stop them before force is to break their claims and the only way to that is to make the Moderate side to have the upper say.
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The Everyman
Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you're suggesting but it sounds interesting.
Sickboy007
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They may have killed as many people in a single attack as they did in the entire last year.
Sho_Nuff82
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I think when a militant group has the resources to overwhelm a military base and take over dozens of towns, it is no longer sufficient to call them a militant group. This is a civil war. Nigeria is at war with Boko Haram within its own borders.
Grimm Fandango
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Really sad all attention is on ISIS when these guys are doing awful things as well.
Fenderputty
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sigh ....
Sickboy007
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Not only they're at war, Nigeria is losing it pretty spectacularly.
DXB-KNIGHT
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Moderate Islam rarely takes the spotlight and the extreme side is more active either theoretically (Some Political Islamic Groups) or Physical (Al Qauda and ISIS) . The post Arabic Spring events has woke up the Arabic street to scary fact that connects the Islamic Political Groups with extremism. Which led people to sperate religion and politics. At least ISIS is a visible threat but the hidden political Islamic groups especially the ones who are hiding in the West and promoting the these ideologies to expand and dominate. The voice of Moderate Islam has become the dominant religious voice in some Muslim countries and non Muslim Countries that has a Muslim population must work with the moderate voice of Islam that are not connected to politics or any other area of personal gain.
coolfighter1993
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I think countries like Nigeria should be boycotted until they actually deal with the Terrorists. In the current situation, nothing is really done and many people die.
Yes.
Pai Pai Master
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what?
NegroNinja
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How do you know they aren't trying?
Edit: It seems the Nigerian army is being overwhelmed. http://bisconworld.org/atiku-says-n...helmed-by-boko-haram-calls-for-world-support/
EatinOlives
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How do you "boycott a country"? What does that even mean?
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The Everyman
Ah I gotchya, but this would only prove that the vast majority of Muslims are non violent and strongly against these attacks, which I think most people agree on. The debate as to whether or not religion (or Islam specifically) is a major ingredient in these attacks would still continue unabated.
You're an idiot.
This is some serious victim blaming right here.
The Nigerian Army was last year accused of conducting the Baga massacre a couple of years ago. So I don't think anyone is safe there.
WeAreStarStuff
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2,000....................?! I need to take a break from the news for a while I think. :/
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
#NotAllBokos
Sickboy007
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I don't agree with that post, but the government's response to Boko Haram's threat has been reprehensible. Nigerian institutions have flirted with Boko Haram for a long time, and now it's biting them in their asses.
GTP_Daverytimes
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Seriously, the fuck are you talking about.
That really doesn't work with a group that specific. Kinda like #not all alqaeda doesn't work because well all alqaeda.. Never mind. Not really sure why I am pursuing..
Sho_Nuff82
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The US used to be Nigeria's biggest oil importer. India is now. Lots of people give a shit. It's just a very complicated situation.
There is also speculation that there are factions of the Nigerian military sympathetic to BH's goals, if not their methods.
Various Artists
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That really sucks.
You Are Viewtiful
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Oh my god! I can't believe it. I hope Nigeria gets through these troubling times. The scale of this attack is insane.
DXB-KNIGHT
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By looking at the Arabic spring Islamic Imams who had a hidden political agenda were more vocal and resulted in many people joining ISIS before its formation, while moderate Imams didn't deny nor agree although when asked they told people not to join which is a common law in Islam not to get involve in shady unclear stuff which drove the other Imams with political agenda nuts. If these moderate Imams got the spot light they could break the religious speech that those Terrorists use.
I'm talking about the Baga Massacre in 2013. This whole thing is a tragedy beyond words. You've got boko haram who are killing all these people here now. And then before this lot, the Nigerian Army are alleged to have committed masaceres there if my memory serves me right.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baga_massacre
so starve the innocent because the government can't control this group? You would only be helping boko haram by doing this. It's easier to recruit people that are starving and don't have much to lose.
And you know what we, the west, can do about this?
Nothing.
Sure, we could go to war with them, but we're still recovering financially from the last war and not only would we lose soldiers, but there would inevitably be retaliation attacks from both Boko Haram for getting involved in the first place and from other radicals for the collateral damage that would no doubt ensue.
And then we'd have to face the same chorus of apologists that would enjoy reminding us we are to blame for the attacks on our countries and that we shouldn't have gotten involved to begin with.
So all we can do, as sad and as miserable a reality as it is, is nothing. There's not even any point in drawing attention to these atrocities, the only people that can do anything about them are well aware of these events, and it would only serve to make us feel hopeless for their situation.
And even if we don't get involved, we'll still be labelled as evil, uncaring assholes by the people that are going through this nightmare.
Ain't it grand?
Nothing.
Sure, we could go to war with them, but we're still recovering financially from the last war and not only would we lose soldiers, but there would inevitably be retaliation attacks from both Boko Haram for getting involved in the first place and from other radicals for the collateral damage that would no doubt ensue.
And then we'd have to face the same chorus of apologists that would enjoy reminding us we are to blame for the attacks on our countries and that we shouldn't have gotten involved to begin with.
So all we can do, as sad and as miserable a reality as it is, is nothing. There's not even any point in drawing attention to these atrocities, the only people that can do anything about them are well aware of these events, and it would only serve to make us feel hopeless for their situation.
And even if we don't get involved, we'll still be labelled as evil, uncaring assholes by the people that are going through this nightmare.
Ain't it grand?
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The Everyman
Ah, okay, this reasoning makes sense to me. That sounds like a solid plan.
RumblingRosco
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You give people born in 1993 a bad name.
I saw a documentary about Nigeria last year. It was about the Nigerian army commiting mass killings. There was a undercover reporter who joined the army, his unit was sent to a small village as there were rumours about some Boko Haram followers hiding there. What they did was disgusting and I will always remember it. They dragged a young teenager away from his family and accused him of being BH. He denied it and because of this they tortured him. They beat him and kick him and shot him in the chest (making sure the shot wouldn't kill him). They then smacked his head over and over against a wall until he bled. He still somehow manager to denie being BH again through deep breaths of pain. So they kicked him into a river face down so he drowned. All this was done infront of his family and the other people they had accused, the soldiers said something like this is what you get when you lie. They then excuted the remaining people who they had labeled BH by shooting them in the head and then left.
I'm not a big fan of American Foreign politics, but to fair to them, their efforts in the aftermath of the kidnapping girls events were about as much as you could without full on military intervention. What with trying to bolster education and help with stability in the country.
It's horrific, isn't it? I can't think of any solution. The world sadly is not at a state of development where we have an international apparatus in place to deal with problems like this. Partitioning Nigeria into a poor Islamic north and a wealthy Christian south followed by population transfers Greece-Turkey or Pakistan-India style would be a dreadful decision, but it might save lives.
This is the equivalent of "no-offense but you stink". How do you expect someone not to take offense...
Nigeria has been at war for along time, primarily muslim in conflict with the christian populace I think?
That really doesn't work with a group that specific. Kinda like #not all alqaeda doesn't work because well all alqaeda.. Never mind. Not really sure why I am pursuing..
Look at his username.
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The Everyman
perhaps, "while i appreciate the gravity of the tragedy, i couldn't help but find some light-hearted solace in this innocuous detail" would have been better.
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