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IGN: The naked eye cannot perceive the difference between 1080 and 720 before 50in
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Sanctuary
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4-6 feet is what you sit at for a 42''. So yeah, it's actually pretty massive compared to the 2-3 feet most people sit from a 27''. The person I quoted mentioned nothing about factoring in viewing distance, which is why I mentioned it.
Then again, the IGN crew did not bother factoring in viewing distance either, and I guess they assumed everyone just sits at 8-10 feet away from every monitor or tv...
KINGofCRA5H
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No, I think you have to take it a step further.
For what possible reason would someone want to report something that they were told, without bothering to check to see if it were remotely true or not? An opinion is one thing, but for him to just flat out state it...
MrNyarlathotep
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hahaha GAF does not work this way.
PaulExcellent
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...really?
Ugh, come on.
It's stuff like this that just bums me out.
Seriously, that's just being a pretentious jerk. :/
I regret giving them page views. Insulting your fan base is not the way to get anything done.
The title of the podcast is "Does 900p vs. 1080p Really Matter?", a question they go on to suggest does from a consumer standpoint, and might not from a technical one. The former takes up the majority of that discussion, the latter all of what - 10 to 20 seconds?
Um... why?
abstract alien
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Indeed. How a major site can press such an article is lunacy. Well, maybe I would as well for the right price
Lord Carnarvon
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How many of us have a 20/20 vision?
Nothing this dude ever says is valid to me. No longer.
Equal parts rude and ill-informed. Especially in a global niche like gaming, being so antagonistic to fellow gamers for something that you are utterly wrong about is infuriating.
MHWilliams
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Ah, this is what everything was about. I saw one tweet while I was leaving the gym, but I lacked context. Good to know.
I notice the 720p to 1080p difference all the time because I switch between two TVs for my gaming.
I notice the 720p to 1080p difference all the time because I switch between two TVs for my gaming.
Arthur Gies, why the fuck do you always drag yourself into these stupid situations that literally have nothing to do with you.
dollartaco
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Don't worry, these guys know more than we do. We're just idiots on a message board. It's who we are and what we do, full stop.
"GAF" is not a single person. Some people do indeed work that way, other's don't. I don't think it makes sense to put everyone in the same bag if you ask me.
Quote the people that are making ad hominem arguments.
You won't find any, because I think you're mistaken. You think any insult is an ad hominem argument.
That is not the case, and if you re-read what an ad hominem argument is you will find out.
What is happening in this thread is that they are being called out for misinformation and are ALSO called idiots. The latter I don't agree with, but nobody is saying they are wrong BECAUSE they are idiots.
Quadtriangle
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symmetrical
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Apparently nobody at IGN.
I don't know if I should find it hilarious or sad that he doesn't even realize what went wrong there.
Can we already guess the score he will give to TitanFall? 10.9?
As for 720p and 1080p difference - my dad spotted it right away, when I played games in our living room in 720p and later bought my own 1080p TV. He just said 'now that is much clearer looking' and I told him about resolution differences
I am still guessing that IGN will have to come up with a new number to represent how amazing Titanfall is and add in a blowjob too.
twisteddeeds
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I have even better than 20/20 vision
Justice_Bolt
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Sorry IGN you're wrong. I can see the difference on my 40 inch TV. I know you love xbox but please stop lying...
Gies gonna Gies
He has to back the shills up so they back him up the next time he fucks up.
Because it does us no good. If IGN gets a story before anyone, sure we can read it for the information. But when it comes to technical information such as resolution, frame rate, hardware analysis etc... there is no reason to look there.
If you are looking at IGN for technical console information, you probably don't know enough to even care if you can see a difference between 720p and 1080p.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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yep, and instead of being concerned with what's really important (journalistic integrity, being able to admit they are wrong, able to apologize for things, etc.) they instead try to shift ridicule toward the party that pointed out the mistake in the first place. pretty fox new-ish to be honest.
it reminds me of when i was 19 and went with my gf's step brother to get some things from walmart. he grabbed a few sixers along with our snacks, and when we were at the checkout lane not only were we not carded (he was 22, but looked younger) but I WAS THE ONE paying for everything. we got half way to our place and realized that someone had swapped some of the beers in one of the six packs with something else. we turned around, came in, and asked if we could exchange it. they claimed that they couldn't because we could have just swapped them ourselves. we insisted they please help us out, but they actually got pretty forceful and asked us to leave. that's when i told them i was 19, didn't get carded, and paid for it all. they told me "that's impossible because we card EVERYONE". the manager then patted (not kidding) the cashier on the back and told her good job on following procedure and also for handling us properly... wow.
R3TRODYCE
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I did not expect him to be a game dev lol
Kai Dracon
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The problem is that for all the internet is full of dimwits who can't rub two sticks together, that sit and throw garbage comments up, there are also people in gaming journalism that are insufferable because of basic human ego. They're "professionals" and if they allow that to go to their head, they develop a complex where they are of a superior quality to the dirty gaming poors.
I had the displeasure of knowing someone who merely interned on the production for some show on G4TV gaming back in its early days. They quickly turned into a complete prick. Who did in fact know very little but was convinced they were a genius because they had been deemed worthy of entering the glamorous professional world.
You end up with some who are so full of their position they both talk down to their audience and begin making the mistake of the ascended fanboy: making up random "facts" as gibber-jabber and then defending those with a lip-curling sneer. Hardly all gaming journalism is like this, but the ratio at times seems unsettlingly high. Enough to pretty easily give gaming journalism a bad name.
Oh look it's Anthony Gallegos. The guy that got a job at Zombie Studios 3 months after giving Blacklight: Retribution a 8.5 in his IGN review (2nd highest review for the game).
Have I been an anal asshole about this Anthony?
KINGofCRA5H
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Japanmanx3
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taizuke
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Used to work for IGN.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
I have 20/20 vision but I really don't care!
Yeah. If I don't wear my glasses I can't tell the difference between 480p and 4K, but that doesn't mean there isn't a difference
To be fair, and maybe based on the timestamps I am incorrect, but he was brought in on this by someone tagging him on Twitter about it, as if he was part of it. For once, minus the shills comment, he hasn't really done anything absurd.
I don't wish to be all philosophical here, but in the words of Terrance McKenna, "we are lead by the least among us", and that surely applies here with video game journalism.
Zabant
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It's become so commonplace i'm completely unaffected by it.
It's actually become quite amusing, always seeing the same people pop up when something like this happens.
hokagespit
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MidgarBlowedUp
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They're totally right guys, that's why I'm still sporting a T-Mobile G1. It looks just as good as my friends iPhone Retina display.
BloodMoney
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Can the naked eye perceive a different between 30 frames per second and 60 frames per second? Because if multi-plats on the PS4 were set to run at 720p (like the bone), there would be a significant improvement in framerate over the xbox.
Even if you accept (and i don't) that the different between the image quality of 720p vs 1080p on a 50 inch tv is negligible, there is no way you can also claim not to see a difference in frame rate when comparing something like 30fps vs 60fps.
I would expect journo's and MS to make this claim about 720p not being a big deal IF the box was less expensive than the better performing competitor (PS4)... but its not... the weaker hardware cost $100 more.
How can anyone buy this garbage?
IGN is full of shit.
Even if you accept (and i don't) that the different between the image quality of 720p vs 1080p on a 50 inch tv is negligible, there is no way you can also claim not to see a difference in frame rate when comparing something like 30fps vs 60fps.
I would expect journo's and MS to make this claim about 720p not being a big deal IF the box was less expensive than the better performing competitor (PS4)... but its not... the weaker hardware cost $100 more.
How can anyone buy this garbage?
IGN is full of shit.
razgriz417
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welp that explains it
hydrophilic attack
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Yeah, he was shilling and downplaying so damn much after the XBO reveal.
I remember they had some video inviting Xbox gamers to the show to discuss the new consoles and the conferences. The looks he gave anyone who dared express discontent with the XBO were murderous.
BurnOutBrighter
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Unbelievable the trash they try to feed us.
And these are the people who are supposed to know and care about this stuff.
And these are the people who are supposed to know and care about this stuff.
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