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IGN: The naked eye cannot perceive the difference between 1080 and 720 before 50in

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DJMicLuv

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It's interesting to see all the fuckers band together on Twitter to make it clear to their audience how little they think of them. I'm sure their bosses are equally interested.
 

Zalman

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That's a new low for IGN. I like most of their staff, but I can never really stand those guys in that particular video.
 

SJRB

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I don't know who Anthony Gallegos is, but did he just call me an "anal asshole"?
 

Damigos

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Sorry IGN but i can see the difference.
Not only see it, but actually SEE it.
At the distance they say i can (almost) say the difference between 1080i and 1080p
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
Oh look it's Anthony Gallegos. The guy that got a job at Zombie Studios 3 months after giving Blacklight: Retribution a 8.5 in his IGN review (2nd highest review for the game).

Have I been an anal asshole about this Anthony?

Holy shit :lol
 
someone needs to take a picture of themselves outside in a lawn chair in their front lawn, windows or door open, sitting exactly 30.6 ft away from the TV inside their house and put a funny caption under it.
 

JDSN

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A shame to see chuf joining the circlejerk, he has been cool and I have followed him since the days of GFW and was really happy to see him moving into game making with Daylight. So now we have a game developer joining in to insult his audience, as a fan of The Brodeo, this sucks. But then again from the little I heard in Arthur Gies's Rebel Fm podcast, he is beta as fuck so maybe this is his desperately trying to gain some approval from his alpha dog.
 

Kadin

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Because it does us no good. If IGN gets a story before anyone, sure we can read it for the information. But when it comes to technical information such as resolution, frame rate, hardware analysis etc... there is no reason to look there.

If you are looking at IGN for technical console information, you probably don't know enough to even care if you can see a difference between 720p and 1080p.
How about holding them accountable for providing misinformation to the people who aren't in the know like people here? You know, keeping them honest. I think it's very relevant to explode these types of things so there's more exposure when they screw up and then respond as they have: not caring and dismissing everything.
 

VanWinkle

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Something odd about gaming media journalists that I've noticed, mostly within Polygon but now seeing elswhere: They REFUSE to just own up to and apologize for factual inaccuracies. THEY NEVER DO. They usually tend to degrade the people who call them out, often as not having a life.
 
Because it does us no good. If IGN gets a story before anyone, sure we can read it for the information. But when it comes to technical information such as resolution, frame rate, hardware analysis etc... there is no reason to look there.

If you are looking at IGN for technical console information, you probably don't know enough to even care if you can see a difference between 720p and 1080p.

so sites like IGN should just keep dishing out false information, perpetuating the ignorance of their viewers? i mean, i know that's IGN's choice, but that doesn't mean we can't/shouldn't call them out on aforementioned bullshit because we care more about informing the target audience than they do.
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
I am still guessing that IGN will have to come up with a new number to represent how amazing Titanfall is and add in a blowjob too.

Maybe they will experience orgasms during gameplay. Or shaking from all that adrenaline and give it 'the best game ever' tag.
 
IGN is full of badly informed editors and NeoGAF has a sea of hyperbolic graphics whores. Must be a day of the week. Obviously you can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p even on slightly smaller screens if you're at a close distance, but it's sad how many people actively look for reasons to be dissatisfied with IQ like a bunch of proverbial princesses with peas under their 100 mattresses.
 

Sanic

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My problem is more that they're seemingly proud of their ignorance. Its ok to be wrong, its not ok to have a smug twitter pity party whining about how being wrong doesn't matter.
 

Guerrilla

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Ok please correct me on this if I'm wrong but I really doubt Orayn's calculations.

So, every pixel on a normal LCD screen is made up of three dots, red, blue and green. Except for some panels from sharp, there actually is no yellow. Your eye is going to see yellow when the green and blue dot is on, and you are too far away to individually see them. So basically every screen has three times the color dots as they for resolution. I think so far everyone should agree with me ;)

Now, if with 20/20 vision you can see more than 1080p if you sit closer than 6.228m according to Oryan's calculation you should be able to see the indiviual color dots at a distance of 2.076m. so tere shouldn't be any yellow on a 50" screen at 2m or closer. However that is clearly not the case.

Right now I'm even looking at a 70inch screen (the screen I'm typing this on) and I need to get a lot closer to it than 1m to see the individual color dots, and I have 20/20 vision according to a test which was done 3 month ago.

So I'm not saying there isn't a difference between 1080p and 720p, but I'm calling complete bullshit on Oryans calculations and they shouldn't be mentioned in the first post. If anyone can see individual color dots on a 50 inch at 2m distance I'll gladly renounce my post.

Please tell me where I'm wrong (seriously) since my arguments (basically I can't see individual color dots at 1m from a 70") wouldn't allow me to see the difference between a 720p and 1080p movie at 3m distance (games is different as mentioned with aliasing....)
 

Alienous

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Oh look it's Anthony Gallegos. The guy that got a job at Zombie Studios 3 months after giving Blacklight: Retribution a 8.5 in his IGN review (2nd highest review for the game).

Have I been an anal asshole about this Anthony?

E-E-E-E-Ether.
 

Apathy

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Who the fuck is Anthony Gallegos?

Used to work at IGN, now a game dev and on a few podcasts. He used to at least try be to even when it came to anything console related, but ever since Mitch, Arthur and Matt became the Xbox love brigade over on Rebel FM he barely has a spine anymore. He would rather sit there and agree with his "friends" than to actually tell them they are wrong on certain things.
 

Feorax

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It's just sad to me that these lazy assholes get paid for this shit whilst there are so many hardworking individuals out of work at the moment.

Look at all the talent about to out of work from somewhere like Irrational, and these guys are making a living doing sweet FA other than spreading misinformation in the same industry.
 

Bedlam

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Oh look it's Anthony Gallegos. The guy that got a job at Zombie Studios 3 months after giving Blacklight: Retribution a 8.5 in his IGN review (2nd highest review for the game).

Have I been an anal asshole about this Anthony?

lol

We should start to collect this stuff and present it in an annual compilation.
 

werks

Banned
IGN is full of badly informed editors and NeoGAF has a sea of hyperbolic graphics whores. Must be a day of the week. Obviously you can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p even on slightly smaller screens if you're at a close distance, but it's sad how many people actively look for reasons to be dissatisfied with IQ like a bunch of proverbial princesses with peas under their 100 mattresses.

Speak for yourself. The first thing I noticed in BF4 for PS4 was the image quality. There is a huge difference between 900p and 1080p, lets not even talk about 720p.
 

jond76

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If it really doesn't matter to them then they shouldn't be forced to fake an outrage to appease the masses. In this case, we are presented what he believes is a fact. He is factually wrong; we can actually prove him wrong. To say that he doesn't care about being called out for being wrong is a terrible attitude for a journalist to have.

This wasn't an exposé piece on shady resolutions, it was a podcast that was Xbox-centric. His "that's what I heard" comment was his rational for himself not really caring about the little difference he could perceive in two different resolutions.

Had he wrote an article about it and said it, ok, that's wrong. But this podcast is aimed at people that want to hear people that might have scoops riff with each other about their console of choice.

Only on the internet can somebody's offhanded comment about something so stupid get people riled up.

This resolution debate is akin to me watching a movie with someone when Bruce Campbell walks on screen :
"Sweet, Bruce!"

"who?"

"YOU DON'T KNOW WHO BRUCE CAMPBELL IS???!!!"
 

graywolf323

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A shame to see chuf joining the circlejerk, he has been cool and I have followed him since the days of GFW and was really happy to see him moving into game making with Daylight. So now we have a game developer joining in to insult his audience, as a fan of The Brodeo, this sucks.

his association with Gies was bound to rub off in a bad way on him eventually :(

Used to work at IGN, now a game dev and on a few podcasts. He used to at least try be to even when it came to anything console related, but ever since Mitch, Arthur and Matt became the Xbox love brigade over on Rebel FM he barely has a spine anymore. He would rather sit there and agree with his "friends" than to actually tell them they are wrong on certain things.

yep that sounds about right
 
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