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Fav is PC
What sucks about it is that i`m an enemy of the all digital/download age and gave in to Steam only recently because what other choice do i really have.
If i was dictator of the world you'd still be buying boxed copies of PC games! (and i'm dead serious)
What sucks about it is that i`m an enemy of the all digital/download age and gave in to Steam only recently because what other choice do i really have.
If i was dictator of the world you'd still be buying boxed copies of PC games! (and i'm dead serious)
PC: Not enough japanese games, honestly becoming an indie or occasional f2p machine with a few exception here and there for me.
Vita: Memory card price, not enough exclusive (still enough for me but could be better), annoying region switching, knowing the successor of my favorite handheld will be the last honestly hurts.
Vita: Memory card price, not enough exclusive (still enough for me but could be better), annoying region switching, knowing the successor of my favorite handheld will be the last honestly hurts.
SillyEskimo
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PS4 and Xbone both lack 3D support for Blu Ray.
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
PC:
drm
local multiplayer typically neglected
2DS:
mediocre build quality
mediocre battery life
drm
local multiplayer typically neglected
2DS:
mediocre build quality
mediocre battery life
PC:
- Japanese development is there, but a lot of it involves sending someone $20 to buy and ship to you a $5 indie on actual CD-R.
- Controller support was fucked up near-fatally by GFWL, and we're only just now pulling away from the "play with a 360 pad or enjoy your wrappers and frame lag" mess.
- If I didn't already need a beefy system for work, there's nowhere near the value proposition there; I'm just skating on calling the $300 GPU my hardware investment.
- I can roll down to the local indie game shop and pick up a Mario 3 or Chrono Trigger cart right now if I want to go back and replay but can't find mine. Then I can plug it into a half-cubic-foot box sitting in the attic, plug that into my TV, and it'll play fine first try. If I want to relive the same time period on PC, my options range from "multiplayer probably won't work" to "good fucking luck, even with DosBOX", and all of them involve mail-order.
HD twins in general:
- The only thing worse than a $600 console is having to collect two proportionally weaker $400 consoles to play the exclusives of each, plus console-only multiplats that have to make worst-of-both-worlds decisions like "plays on a gimped GPU -and- fits into 7gb". One of the pair really needs to get voted off the island.
- Japanese development is there, but a lot of it involves sending someone $20 to buy and ship to you a $5 indie on actual CD-R.
- Controller support was fucked up near-fatally by GFWL, and we're only just now pulling away from the "play with a 360 pad or enjoy your wrappers and frame lag" mess.
- If I didn't already need a beefy system for work, there's nowhere near the value proposition there; I'm just skating on calling the $300 GPU my hardware investment.
- I can roll down to the local indie game shop and pick up a Mario 3 or Chrono Trigger cart right now if I want to go back and replay but can't find mine. Then I can plug it into a half-cubic-foot box sitting in the attic, plug that into my TV, and it'll play fine first try. If I want to relive the same time period on PC, my options range from "multiplayer probably won't work" to "good fucking luck, even with DosBOX", and all of them involve mail-order.
HD twins in general:
- The only thing worse than a $600 console is having to collect two proportionally weaker $400 consoles to play the exclusives of each, plus console-only multiplats that have to make worst-of-both-worlds decisions like "plays on a gimped GPU -and- fits into 7gb". One of the pair really needs to get voted off the island.
condompickle
Banned
PC. Only reason it sucks for me is that it misses out on the exclusives. Going from PC to consoles is night and day difference. Wish Microsoft released all their exclusives on PC as well.
And for some reason my 680 can't run borderlands properly. Shitty screen tears.
And for some reason my 680 can't run borderlands properly. Shitty screen tears.
SolidChamp
Banned
I have no issues with being honset about the fact that MS lost my business forever when the RRoD hit FOUR of my Xbox 360's (one died, got it replaced, then the next one died, and so on). I really don't like the Xbox brand now as a result. I am 100% in Sony's camp now. PS3, PS4, and the Vita, all the way. It helps that Sony has the exclusives I care about and the PS4 now doesn't have to deal with the same shit that the PS3 dealt with. So on that note, I'm posting in this thread...
The elegant architecture of the PS3 made it hard for third party devs to put their games on it. This resulted in sometimes god awful ports of what should have been amazing games for me (Skyrim immediately comes to mind). It debuted at a fucking insane price, and the DualShock 3 was fine but not nearly as comfortable to hold as the 360 controller. Games I was able to play on both consoles, such as Just Cause 2, were muted and not as crisp on the PS3. Fallout New Vegas was enjoyable to a point, but then devolved into a complete mess late in the game on the PS3.
If it weren't for the amazing exclusives during the latter half of the console gen, PS3 would've sucked some hard balls...because 3rd party games were just far superior on the 360 and devs were clearly too lazy to be bothered with learning the PS3's cell.
Canis lupus
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PS4: need some games and no offline trophy view wtf
I'm a PC guy, and for me the worst part of the PC platform is how easy it is to alt-tab or shut off a game to check neogaf/facebook/whatever. When I'm playing on console I'm more in it, so to speak. My own fault, I know, but it's kind of built into the design of the platform. Hard to not utilize it.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
PlayStation 4
- Trophy-listing is a joke and has crashed every time I've tried to look at it.
- Sony's first party support, while great games, haven't even hinted at something that intrests me.
- Most of next-gen is actually quite bland at the moment, perhaps it's just hitting 30 that's spooking.
- The steep price of next-gen retail, it's not worth it.
- The UI is a mess. Well, not technically since it's so few things on display. But it will be a mess when the games and apps start piling up.
- The iOS-app is a joke.
- The store is still a joke. Despite the new HTML5 update.
- No backwards compability. Now I'll never finish Puppeteer and Metal Gear Solid 4.
- USB-ports in front of the console.
jim-jam bongs
Member
PC
The single biggest issue for me is definitely Windows at this point. I've switched to GNU Linux on every PC I have except for my gaming ones. I tried it for a while, but having a library of over 300 Steam games and only being able to play a fraction of them was painful.
My smaller library from GOG was much easier to manage through PlayOnLinux though, so it wasn't all bad. Still, I would love to be able to say toodles to Windows forever at some stage.
The single biggest issue for me is definitely Windows at this point. I've switched to GNU Linux on every PC I have except for my gaming ones. I tried it for a while, but having a library of over 300 Steam games and only being able to play a fraction of them was painful.
My smaller library from GOG was much easier to manage through PlayOnLinux though, so it wasn't all bad. Still, I would love to be able to say toodles to Windows forever at some stage.
Wow man that's horrible. The DS4 is such an upgrade for me ergonomically.
Total Vita fan boy here, but hate that there are so many Japanese games that don't get proper western releases.
DigitalDevilSummoner
zero cognitive reasoning abilities
I agree with the last statement simply because for the very first time in console history you have two consoles that are essentially the same under the hood.
<-plays dota right now.
Ivan
Member
I know
. Imagine how it feels to listen every single person saying the same thing - DS4 is ergonomically perfect.
The concept IS perfect, but I think my hands are too big for it or I'm doing something wrong. Teach me...make this go away.
PS4 has a potential to be my favourite platform by far if I figure this out. I've never had ANY problems with ANY controller in history.
The Universe is playing with me...Fuck.
First post for me.
I love the wii u, I wish I could use the gamepad and tv for everything.
It sucks because there are games I want on it that aren't and there are too few people playing it.
gigantor21
Member
Vita
- Piss-poor software support driven by piss-poor sales. As much as I like the device itself, there simply isn't enough to play on it half the time. Sony itself hasn't exactly reacted to it's failure the way Nintendo did with the 3DS.
- Wildly inconsistent port quality. On a device that can do stuff like Killzone, the MVC3 port and Tearaway, shit like Injustice (PS1 graphics) and the Jak Collection (15fps) are simply inexcusable.
- Shitty memory prices--a particular piss off considering how much digital content is emphasized, via PS+, indie titles and digital only releases.
- Rather poor battery life.
- Start and select buttons are awkward as hell to use on OLED version.
PC
- The extra flexibility that PC grants you also makes the hardware much more complicated--and potentially expensive--to deal with.
- Console-exclusivity leaves entire franchises off of the platform, and huge gaps in the ones that are represented.
- The rise of Steam has been a boon for pricing (ON THAT DAY OUR STEAM WALLETS RECEIVED A GRIM REMINDER), but it also means my collection is more ephemeral.
- Piss-poor software support driven by piss-poor sales. As much as I like the device itself, there simply isn't enough to play on it half the time. Sony itself hasn't exactly reacted to it's failure the way Nintendo did with the 3DS.
- Wildly inconsistent port quality. On a device that can do stuff like Killzone, the MVC3 port and Tearaway, shit like Injustice (PS1 graphics) and the Jak Collection (15fps) are simply inexcusable.
- Shitty memory prices--a particular piss off considering how much digital content is emphasized, via PS+, indie titles and digital only releases.
- Rather poor battery life.
- Start and select buttons are awkward as hell to use on OLED version.
PC
- The extra flexibility that PC grants you also makes the hardware much more complicated--and potentially expensive--to deal with.
- Console-exclusivity leaves entire franchises off of the platform, and huge gaps in the ones that are represented.
- The rise of Steam has been a boon for pricing (ON THAT DAY OUR STEAM WALLETS RECEIVED A GRIM REMINDER), but it also means my collection is more ephemeral.
PC
- Support from Japan isn't great. I'm not a Japan-o-phile, but I do like JRPG's and would like to see more of them. Its getting better, slowly but surely, but is still not nearly as good as it could be.
- Too many cheap games. Hard to resist buying a ton and then having a massive backlog.
- Can be a costly hobby at times if you want to keep up with the curve and have nice things.
- Is given a lesser priority for many multiplatform console games. Again, this is improving and we still do end up with the better game in the end, but its something that can, and will hopefully be improved even more.
Still the best platform, though. By far, in my opinion.
- Support from Japan isn't great. I'm not a Japan-o-phile, but I do like JRPG's and would like to see more of them. Its getting better, slowly but surely, but is still not nearly as good as it could be.
- Too many cheap games. Hard to resist buying a ton and then having a massive backlog.
- Can be a costly hobby at times if you want to keep up with the curve and have nice things.
- Is given a lesser priority for many multiplatform console games. Again, this is improving and we still do end up with the better game in the end, but its something that can, and will hopefully be improved even more.
Still the best platform, though. By far, in my opinion.
SteveWinwood
Member
you and me both brother
it was mostly a jokeThe only reason why I'm a console only gamer, waiting for a steambox
For me
Vita, ergonomics sucks
PS4, not enough games I bought and played to much already....
15 mins is a deal breaker huh
semiconscious
Member
fixed
...unable to convince myself to buy one till at least this coming fall (&, for now, completely happy with the ps3 versions of cross-gen games i'm interested in)...
I have fixed to many computers in my life I get an allergic reaction when I see Windows errors or I have to hunt for drivers. Last time I did that was for Diablo 3 on my laptop I have an nvidia card but the newest drivers didn't recognized my card so I couldn't install took me half an hour to find the correct line to put in an ini file that it worked.... Pfff just not worth it
Colorful Vocabulary
Member
PS3
- I don't like a majority of the first party games.
- The fat model is ridiculously heavy.
- The super slim is loud, thanks to the awful disc tray.
- User profiles are terrible.
- The current store layout is still slow, and an overall downgrade from the original.
- Can't change user names. Doesn't even have a display name option, like Steam.
- The UI is slow and laggy, especially in-game.
- No party chat.
- No backwards compatibility.
- And lastly, my obligatory mention of installation and update annoyances.
I know there's a few more grievances I've had that I could add, but that's all I was able to come up with currently.
- I don't like a majority of the first party games.
- The fat model is ridiculously heavy.
- The super slim is loud, thanks to the awful disc tray.
- User profiles are terrible.
- The current store layout is still slow, and an overall downgrade from the original.
- Can't change user names. Doesn't even have a display name option, like Steam.
- The UI is slow and laggy, especially in-game.
- No party chat.
- No backwards compatibility.
- And lastly, my obligatory mention of installation and update annoyances.
I know there's a few more grievances I've had that I could add, but that's all I was able to come up with currently.
A Sentient Keyboard
Member
3DS XL
The speakers are pretty shitty, though fortunately this can be worked around with decent earphones. Region lock and a lacking virtual console (GBAaaaaa) are other complaints I have.
The speakers are pretty shitty, though fortunately this can be worked around with decent earphones. Region lock and a lacking virtual console (GBAaaaaa) are other complaints I have.
BibiMaghoo
Member
PS4
Were it not for PS+, I would not have bought one. Paying for multiplayer is anathema to me, and if I did not get the games I would not bite, making the console not so useful to me. I hate they went this route, and that Nintendo are the last bastion of hope for not being charged for peer-to-peer connections in games. I despise the mentality of it, which amounts to this:
''If you want the service to be good, you have to pay us''
Except, if you want to sell me a service, it has to be good enough to be paid for. The onus is NOT on me to provide you with funds to give me a good service, it is on you to provide me with a valuable service which in turn I am happy to pay for. Live does not, PSN does not. They are pay gates, not a fair restriction on hardware I own. Nor are they a good enough service to be sold alone. The very basis of it I find offensive, because in any other market, it is their job to sell it to me, not my job to pay them to make it.
Were it not for PS+, I would not have bought one. Paying for multiplayer is anathema to me, and if I did not get the games I would not bite, making the console not so useful to me. I hate they went this route, and that Nintendo are the last bastion of hope for not being charged for peer-to-peer connections in games. I despise the mentality of it, which amounts to this:
''If you want the service to be good, you have to pay us''
Except, if you want to sell me a service, it has to be good enough to be paid for. The onus is NOT on me to provide you with funds to give me a good service, it is on you to provide me with a valuable service which in turn I am happy to pay for. Live does not, PSN does not. They are pay gates, not a fair restriction on hardware I own. Nor are they a good enough service to be sold alone. The very basis of it I find offensive, because in any other market, it is their job to sell it to me, not my job to pay them to make it.
Dorimukyasuto
Member
Vita
-Can feel uncomfortable in the hands after playing for a while.
-People still think that it has no games, even though it has plenty of good titles.
-Memory cards are quite expensive.
-Not enough people know the Vita even exists, or they just think that the Vita is the PSP.
PS3
-XMB is great but it is sluggish.
-The store sucks, is very choppy and takes a long time to load.
-Though I like the DS3, it gets on my nerves. I hate to say it but the 360 controller is more comfortable.
-Can feel uncomfortable in the hands after playing for a while.
-People still think that it has no games, even though it has plenty of good titles.
-Memory cards are quite expensive.
-Not enough people know the Vita even exists, or they just think that the Vita is the PSP.
PS3
-XMB is great but it is sluggish.
-The store sucks, is very choppy and takes a long time to load.
-Though I like the DS3, it gets on my nerves. I hate to say it but the 360 controller is more comfortable.
Kocolino67
Member
You are right, but I should have mentioned that I missed these specific last 8 to 10 years? I started around 1994 with PC gaming and updated my last desktop PC around 2005. Right now I play my Steam games either on my 2010 laptop or on a GPU/CPU setup I bought recently for ca. 20€ each for my 2005 motherboard.
I LOVE Vita, what i don't like are:
-save games management
-lack of type 0 and other unlocalized Japanese PSP/Vita games
-lack of genres like managerial, strategy and similar that would be perfect with the touchscreen.
-SCEA and its incredibly bad mismanagement
-more big games would be better but honestly i'm already totally happy with Vita
-save games management
-lack of type 0 and other unlocalized Japanese PSP/Vita games
-lack of genres like managerial, strategy and similar that would be perfect with the touchscreen.
-SCEA and its incredibly bad mismanagement
-more big games would be better but honestly i'm already totally happy with Vita
Caayn
Member
Currently the XB1:
- 180, I loved the original Xbox One. The benefits of both physical and digital without any of the downsides (for me).
- OS missing, or worse working, features of which some the Xbox 360 had 8 years ago. (Media playback from USB/network, background music, themes, auto log-in, chat)
- UI: Xbox Logo visible almost everywhere on the dashboard. And what's the point of displaying the time/battery if you fade them away after a couple of seconds.
- Gold required for almost everything (although I've practically always got gold, I do understand that the gold requirement for almost everything scares away people)
- Specs, after waiting so long for a new generation to blow us away. We get low- mid- end specs
- Xbox twitter. Just give me the old friends system from the 360. I don't like how it's, basically, completely gone on the XB1.
This is a good thread and I often switch between two platforms first off...
Wii U
No 3rd party support
Bad controller life
Stupid os
Because of those faults I end up going to
Ps4
No games >__>
Bad OS
Inferior multimedia features compared to ps3
Then I go back to wii u and the cycle starts again.
Wii U
No 3rd party support
Bad controller life
Stupid os
Because of those faults I end up going to
Ps4
No games >__>
Bad OS
Inferior multimedia features compared to ps3
Then I go back to wii u and the cycle starts again.
Mass Effect
Member
I guess my biggest problem with PC is that it's not very inclusive in several ways.
The biggest one is that, while very rare, when some games have issues, it's a pain in the ass. Many times you need to be computer savvy enough to know how to solve the problem. Let's take Mortal Kombat for example. It had some issue with not detecting mobile Nvidia cards for some reason. So I had to find what was going on there (I forget what I had to do) and I have to edit all of the graphical settings through the ini file instead of through the game. Now that isn't too big of a deal for me since I'm pretty competent with computers, but to someone who barely knows how to operate a PC it might as well be rocket science. This makes it so that some just flat out don't want to get into PC gaming. Some of my friends are like this, they just don't want to bother.
Second issue is, at least with multiplayer games, the communities. The skill gap is massive compared to consoles. Which brings me to the extension of this issue; players' attitudes. If you're new to a game, especially one with an established community, good luck getting help from them. Many of the "skilled" players are total assholes who only bitch at you if you're not doing as well as them instead of trying to help. Battlefield, DOTA/LoL, etc. Of course this isn't exclusive to PC, but on consoles I found it to not be be not as common except for a few games like Gears of War.
And then there are various smaller issues like not all games having controller support, games being divided among different platforms (I.e. Origin), but those aren't as big of a deal as the othe two points.
The biggest one is that, while very rare, when some games have issues, it's a pain in the ass. Many times you need to be computer savvy enough to know how to solve the problem. Let's take Mortal Kombat for example. It had some issue with not detecting mobile Nvidia cards for some reason. So I had to find what was going on there (I forget what I had to do) and I have to edit all of the graphical settings through the ini file instead of through the game. Now that isn't too big of a deal for me since I'm pretty competent with computers, but to someone who barely knows how to operate a PC it might as well be rocket science. This makes it so that some just flat out don't want to get into PC gaming. Some of my friends are like this, they just don't want to bother.
Second issue is, at least with multiplayer games, the communities. The skill gap is massive compared to consoles. Which brings me to the extension of this issue; players' attitudes. If you're new to a game, especially one with an established community, good luck getting help from them. Many of the "skilled" players are total assholes who only bitch at you if you're not doing as well as them instead of trying to help. Battlefield, DOTA/LoL, etc. Of course this isn't exclusive to PC, but on consoles I found it to not be be not as common except for a few games like Gears of War.
And then there are various smaller issues like not all games having controller support, games being divided among different platforms (I.e. Origin), but those aren't as big of a deal as the othe two points.
Princess Viola
Member
3DS
- Low resolution
- Only one analog stick
- Region-lock
- No Metroid
- Awful "account" system
Wii U
- No one is buying it
- so no games come for it
- this is sad
- Low resolution
- Only one analog stick
- Region-lock
- No Metroid
- Awful "account" system
Wii U
- No one is buying it
- so no games come for it
- this is sad
AcademicSaucer
Member
Most of gaming time is on the 3ds, and it sucks because is an underpowered piece of crap without a proper account system .
Tertullian
Member
PC
Troubleshooting problems sucks.
Troubleshooting problems sucks.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Interesting question.
My most played platform over the last few years has to be by far the 3DS. Yet that's purely because of the game lineup and in spite of the actual hardware.
I'm not even sure if I'd call that my preferred piece of hardware. I mean I like the software and I like some of the features like street pass a ton.
Yet the still semi archaic online setup, the slow OS, and just the fundamental not that great of hardware means I like it despite the system itself.
You could say well that's your preferred platform but what you'd change is the hardware. Yet does that even really make sense? It would be like me saying if you could just take all of the Wii U stuff I love to play and put it on the PS4. I'm not sure that really qualifies.
I shall think on this more.
My most played platform over the last few years has to be by far the 3DS. Yet that's purely because of the game lineup and in spite of the actual hardware.
I'm not even sure if I'd call that my preferred piece of hardware. I mean I like the software and I like some of the features like street pass a ton.
Yet the still semi archaic online setup, the slow OS, and just the fundamental not that great of hardware means I like it despite the system itself.
You could say well that's your preferred platform but what you'd change is the hardware. Yet does that even really make sense? It would be like me saying if you could just take all of the Wii U stuff I love to play and put it on the PS4. I'm not sure that really qualifies.
I shall think on this more.
Sony
one account per Vita SUCKS. Fragments my game playing. All my PS+ content is tied to my wife's PSN so I have to play under her account on the Vita, which means I'm locked out from remote play for my account. Really grinds my gears.
Also crappy DS4 battery and highway robbery Vita memory cards.
Most everything else is tops tho!
one account per Vita SUCKS. Fragments my game playing. All my PS+ content is tied to my wife's PSN so I have to play under her account on the Vita, which means I'm locked out from remote play for my account. Really grinds my gears.
Also crappy DS4 battery and highway robbery Vita memory cards.
Most everything else is tops tho!
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
PC - I hate using the keyboard for any games and I cant understand why there isn't more games live civilization, transport tycoon etc.
3DS - VC sucks as does no account.
Vita - Not for me I don't think plus propriety memory sucks.
XB1 - Needs more games I can play with my niece, PLEX and Sky Go would be amazing.
3DS - VC sucks as does no account.
Vita - Not for me I don't think plus propriety memory sucks.
XB1 - Needs more games I can play with my niece, PLEX and Sky Go would be amazing.
Rushersauce
Banned
Even vanilla Crysis maxed out looks better than many recent games.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Genius thread right here. Love it