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Titanfall requires Origin.
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Poundis Rex
Banned
You do know that official sources have said that Titanfall will never be on another console? Do you think they were lying? The general consensus is you'll be waiting for the sequel.
Does anyone know if origin account is required on console like Plants vs Zombies is?
You think nearly no information is better than having too much information? Are you serious?
razgriz417
Member
this
Poundis Rex
Banned
Who would have ever guessed 10 years ago that console warrior mentality would extend to online stores and services?
Nabs
Member
That's not even close to the same thing, but whatever. This argument is old and tired.
coughlanio
Member
I actually like Origin, I think it gets an unfair shake when it comes to digital distribution.
Steam is actually not that great a piece of software.
Steam is actually not that great a piece of software.
Shake Appeal
Member
I was prepared to like Origin (which I downloaded solely to play the Titanfall beta and now the full game), but then it proved to be flaky about showing me and my friends as online and allowing us to actually communicate, and I sighed.
Sorry to disappoint but there is no chance. Titanfall 2, sure but you'll be waiting a few years.
Well titanfall is a MP online only game. It will have limited shelf life anyway. Being on Steam wouldn't extend that.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Why wouldn't it, it's an EA game.
TheLetdown
Member
Just passing by, but the Counter Strike games might be a good antithesis to this notion.
It wouldn't be a good antithesis at all, considering that Counter Strike is published by Valve. CS also allows players to buy servers which Titanfall doesn't allow. Even if Titanfall was on Steam, EA still decides how long the servers stay online.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
It's actually a pretty similar situation.
ME was never ported to the PS3, Microsoft published it.
It's sequels came to the PS3 because EA published it.
Titanfall won't come to the PS4/PS3 because Microsoft bought exclusivity for the first game.
EDIT: Wait, Mass Effect 1 did come out on the PS3?
Well, I feel stupid.
Yep, in the trilogy collection. EA probably renegotiated the deal. No reason for MS to be difficult either, considering it was 1 very old game and they wanted to stay friends for future deals.
Titanfall is no Mass Effect though, it would make no sense for EA to port it very late into the cycle.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
I've yet to install Origin on my system. Titanfall looks like it could be good, but I'm sticking to my guns on this. Zero trust or respect for EA.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I'm more confused as to why one can purchase Titanfall through uPlay. Wouldn't that require both Origin and uPlay running in tandem?
Nabs
Member
You know that number Origin shows you while downloading? That's not your download speed, it's your HDD write speed. If the game is extracting stuff as you're downloading, it'll inflate that speed, making you believe you're somehow getting one over on your ISP.
I'll be buying this on PC and playing through Origin because I don't have a morale dilemma when buying or playing video games. It's funny how bent out of shape people get over there principles regarding video games, keep fighting the good fight against the evil EA warriors of justice.
PandaPandaPanda
Member
no idea about that situation in particular but, buying ubisoft titles with uplay on steam (pretty much all ubisoft published games for the last couple of years with the exception of south park) will launch uplay in the background
anyway, I hope it does stick around as monopolies in general are bad. Sure some would say valve can do no wrong but i'd rather not take that chance to find out.
I've never had an issue downloading from Origin servers. Way better than UPlay which is just awful. Attempting to download AC Liberation alongside AC4 and am having major issues. I'm consistently getting disconnected from the download servers. Having to constantly reconnect is bad enough for a 4GB download like Liberation. It's horrible with a 25GB download which is AC4. UPlay is complete trash.
Super Muffin
Neo Member
People are seriously not buying the game because of Origin?
Man, if that's a deal-breaker how spoiled are we.
Man, if that's a deal-breaker how spoiled are we.
soulassssns
Banned
I have no hate for Origin so bring on Titanfall.
The irony of demanding a Steam release because buyers don't want their money to go toward a big company or DRM isn't lost on most of us.
DangerDave
Member
Me and the people I play with bought BF3 despite Origin. It turned out to be a major pain in the butt to deal with another client/another friends list/battlelog updating browser extensions /weird sound driver programs. We just got sick of all of it and just started playing Bad Company 2 again just because it was more convenient.
Now, with awesome games like Insurgency having a ridiculously simple "click user to join" button, this is the only way a game is going to survive and thrive long term. If a company wants my money if better be hassle free (maybe i am spoiled).
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Dat strawman.
Nevermind the completely different setup and priorities of the two companies.
Valve's no angel, they've fucked up in the past, but they do have a long history of doing right by their consumers for the most part. EA...not so much.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
I love how people seem to glance over the fact that it took 5 years for EA to get the rights to ME1, which either means they bought them from Microsoft, or they expired.
Nah, Microsoft does. The PC version still uses the Azure Cloud servers, not EA's.
Considering the demand I've observed is specifically for a Steam version of the game, rather than a DRM-free or direct-sale version of the PC release, I don't concede that my comment is anything approaching a straw-man point.
Yep, in the trilogy collection. EA probably renegotiated the deal. No reason for MS to be difficult either, considering it was 1 very old game and they wanted to stay friends for future deals.
Titanfall is no Mass Effect though, it would make no sense for EA to port it very late into the cycle.
The contract must have stated that Mass Effect to remain exclusive until the end of the trilogy as the PS3 version began just after Mass Effect 3 was released.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
The demand you've observed is simply you making up generalized arguments for those people you disagree with. Hence, strawmanning.
NotoriousPUG
Member
That's because one of those is incredibly unrealistic. EA games have appeared on Steam before though.
I didn't know that either, but even still it didn't come out until after ME2 and ME3 on PS3.
I doubt anyone is going to want to play Titanfall 1 when 2 is out (and that will be on PS4).
0ptimusPayne
Member
Good thing X1 version is using MS servers. I hate EA servers with a passion...BF4 why????
I don't see any difference between what EA boss was saying and the dozens of times over last generation of a game not coming to PS3 but eventually did.
They are under contract so they can lie about it and when it gets released on the PS4 they can say they had to say it because of the contract.
Also it must have pissed him off with the amount of people saying they will wait for the eventual release of the PS4 version after crafting the deal so he would have to say something.
Because they don't? They take a standard retailer % if it's bought through Steam. If they key is bought from elsewhere, Valve don't see a penny.
When I worked at Game, I got a 30% discount off games, so I'm assuming they must make at least that per game sold. Since on a console, they have to give the console manufacturer a cut too, 30% probably seems reasonable.
So how come you dont object to the game itself, which is funded and published by EA, why do you draw the line at it being available only in their online store? If you disapprove of EA so much, maybe you should just boycott the game altogether.
terrdactycalsrock
Member
I dont understand why everyone hates Origin so much. Is it as good as Steam? No. Is segregating an open platform a bad idea? Yes, but you have to expect its going to happen, on an open platform. Does Origin load up, and let me boot my game in a reasonable way? Yes. Can I easily view what my friends are doing and get a hold of them? Yes. Those last two are what makes it okay. I can play the game, and I can get a hold of my friends. Thats all it needs to do.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Because the game itself isn't going against my interests. Supporting Origin itself is.
I'd like to support EA where they make the right moves(ie. back around the time they were pushing new titles like Mirrors Edge and Dead Space). In light of their recent bullshit, though Titanfall doesn't appear to be harmful itself(no preoder in-game nonsense, no micro-transactions), I simply refuse to trust EA of all companies with my digital library.
I'd like to push them in the right direction. Too bad they don't give me the option.
If you think the premise is so unbelievable that I must be deliberately constructing unrealistic examples to influence a conversation online, I'll know how to regard you in the future. I have literally, personally, observed individuals upset that Titanfall isn't available on Steam because they don't like dealing with DRM, and because they don't want Origin to become a monopoly. I was among the first buyers on Steam, because it was mandated that I was because I wanted to play my retail copy of Half-life 2. The client was bloated, unstable, and didn't add meaningful features. This state of things persisted for some time. I didn't boycott Half-life 2 because of it. That is my outlook on all this. When I say I've observed the people I've characterized, I'm talking about among in-person friends. That being said, if you think I'm being too generalized, I can cite examples from this thread.
This is an example of a perfectly rational set of reasons to be disappointed by the Origin decision. As is this. This is the sort of arbitrary Steam-cheering that plants the platform's merit simply on it being popular. This is someone who is specifically basing the merit of Steam on it being a de-facto monopoly, to the point where even an equivalent platform from any other company isn't acceptable. Here's the same person explaining why competition for Steam is a bad thing. Here is someone complaining about the DRM inherent to Origin, and why that's their reason for not buying Titanfall unless it were available on Steam. This is an example of why using Origin as the underlying client has some distinct merit to it.
Many of these people's points are that sometimes a monopoly happens because the product or service is simply better than alternatives, and that's something I'd agree with, but I've also cited people who who say specifically why even if the product/service were exactly as good, it would be unacceptable other than with Steam. I think things like Twitch integration, standardized 24-hour return periods for digital purchases and a smaller footprint for the client are merits to Origin. Those return policies would be better for buyers if they became a wider point of competition. It's probably worth mentioning that I don't use Origin with any regularity. I'm coming at this academically.
I'm sorry you think there's no rational basis for calling out a viewpoint rejecting DRM and potential monopolies as part of the reason to boycott a game they'd otherwise want to play, when the preferred platform is necessarily DRM and represents an effective monopoly. Let me just remind you that the original point of contention you had with me was pointing out that most people would see irony in those conflicting views and actions.
ebullientprism
Member
Have sunk a ton of hours into BF, ME etc and never had a single problem with Origin. So thats fine by me.
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