HypocrisyGalore
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I highly doubt this is indicative of the PS4 bombing in Japan.
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Media Create Sales: Week 10, 2014 (Mar 03 - Mar 09)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Is it particularly wise to look at a grand total of 3 weeks of sales and declare a sales trajectory? It's not a holiday and the PS4 has no games. We can predict poor sales as a result for the next few months, but beyond that you are just making assumptions. At least with the Wii U, we have 15 months of sales data to look at.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
So where are all these big console titles going to go huh:
FF, KH, MGS, RE, GTA, Yakuza, Tales etc
You've gone off the deep end making hyperbolic comments like the one in bold. Hard to take you seriously now.
SSD had this promotion
translation:
1000yen upgrade for owners of Soul Sacrifice.
Also, owners of Soul Sacrifice with PS+ can play delta for Free.
Considering that, I think the game sold fine.
wat
Why even release Delta at retail if they're going to give it away for free?
AcademicSaucer
Member
Smartphones are the future of the japanese videogame industry , there is no turning back now
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
To get people more interested for 2? Not everybody has PS+ or the original game.
Besides stuff being free before hasn't stopped copies of games from being sold at retail.
a. Like I mentioned before..they clearly don't care too much at this moment. Their focus is on the western markets and rightfully so. That's the smart thing to do from a business point of view. There really is no hurry, they can take their time. WiiU and Xbone are a non-issue for them in Japan, and even if handheld/mobile markets take away users from the home console market, as long as sony does much better in the West, they won't mind it too much. This all about the long term game after all
b. I phrased it incorrectly. I was thinking about the home console market. Handheld/mobile will get priority for sure. But in the home console market ps4 is THE option..or even PS4/Xbone. Especially with many smaller publishers are attempting to sell in the western markets now more than before. Some extremely niche games like some VN's will be out of the question tho so I agree that it depends on the game
jeremy1456
Junior Member
It will be like the FFXIII effect.
The franchises will see a drop in popularity because of the low install base.
Hellraider
Member
If Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hears are the Mario Kart and Smash what about the Resident Evils, the Tales of, the Metal Gears, the Ryu ga gotokus the Musous and a dozen other series? Those titles will be the difference.
I really doubt most Western series will matter at all for the PS4.
Canis lupus
Member
So AC is bigger than MH4 and Pokemon combined? And yeah they cant keep pumping out new, superior models which is why they hadn't launched 2DS over there last year.
and how are those 1st party games going for Ninty huh?
Oh my god, when I started reading that first statement, I never expected that second statement lol...
Expand the userbase would be my guess
You're right, that does sound ridiculous. I'm not sure how one could look at these horrible console hardware numbers and think "MS has a chance!" If anything, the XBone will probably sell even worse than the 360 did.
It will be interesting to see, with console gaming basically dying in Japan, if PC gaming can make any inroads at all among the dwindling core gamers.
Metal Gear Solid 4 did fine and the PS3's LTD was just over 2M at the time.
1st Course
Member
What really saved the PS3 is the $299/slim model.
JetBlackPanda
Member
come on Japan! I love my 3DS and will play whatever I can on it but the mobile stuff is an abomination.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
GTA did better on PS3
Yakuza did better on PS3
RE did similarly or better on PS3
Tales did better on PS3
MGS did the same on PS3
FF did 400k less on PS3
This was despite having half the install base. The fact is that even if you increase the install base that does not guarantee an increase in sales and vice versa since very few games have universal appeal across the platform's install base.
Also your pulling ass-umptions that PS4 will have a lower install base than the PS3.
Well, they could pass it through certification when it's clearly not polished.
I mean, that'd be a shitty move full stop, but it's within their capabilities.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
SSD had this promotion
translation:
1000yen upgrade for owners of Soul Sacrifice.
Also, owners of Soul Sacrifice with PS+ can play delta for Free.
Considering that, I think the game sold fine.
Your translation is wrong. It actually says Soul Sacrifice is 1,000 yen for a limited time, and it is free for ps+ members during that time. Delta is regular price.
Well, it's the first in the series to have a digital option. Not that I think that'd have a particularly big impact, but it's a factor.
lol at the funny posts the past two pages.
Big game franchises have been getting bigger.
Small game franchises have become irrelevant.
Whether this is a good thing or not depends on the person.
lol wtf. For free? That is crazy. Hope they do that here as well lol.
I'll summarize your point easily.
Big game franchises have been getting bigger.
Small game franchises have become irrelevant.
Whether this is a good thing or not depends on the person.
OK, this makes much more sense. That is crazy to give PS+ members Delta for free.
Hellraider
Member
Oh for the love of God...
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I was only taking into account FF13. You can take FF13-2 in account as well but thats beside the point:
This statement you made about the franchises I listed:
Turned out to be hilariously wrong.
Yakuza 1 and 2 sold a lot more on PS2 than any PS3 Yakuza, at least if you include their Best re-relase.
Tales of Destiny 2 sold 750k units on PS2 - that's more than any PS3 Tales.
KillerMan91
Member
Outside of this thread and PAL charts it always turns to complete clusterfuck when there is thread about sales that general GAF visits.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Don't act like there weren't gaffers lol'ing at Wii u #'s saying those numbers were in no way indicative of the home console market in japan and that japan was waiting for the ps4. Well it's here now and the numbers don't look so hot but it's ok I guess because now it's switched from 'Japan is waiting for the ps4' to 'Japan is waiting for ps4 games'.
It's not a full sequel. It's Soul Sacrifice with an included expansion pack. If you already have Soul Sac, it makes sense that you are only charged an amount adequate for an expansion pack.
e: nevermind, they aren't doing this after all, Capcom style.
It's selling better than Kirby Mass Attack, but Mass Attack wasn't a traditional Kirby game. Super Star Deluxe on the other hand sold more than a million copies, which Kirby 3DS is very unlikely to reach. It's doing good, but nothing out of the ordinary.
comedy bomb
Banned
Onto the PS4 chalk board. You know it's coming.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Seriously somebody get the chalkboard
Interesting, for some reason I was under the impression this was the best performance for a Kirby in a while (sans Super Star Ultra/Deluxe). Thanks for the info!
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Hilariously wrong versus the numbers you're pulling out of your ass.
Yakuza 1 and 2 did in fact do better than any yakuza on the ps3. Additionally, as someone else already pointed out, no PS3 Tales game has matched Destiny 2.
'Hilariously wrong' is a pretty fitting term.
KillerMan91
Member
Tales of Xillia is something like 50k away from Destiny 2. Dat huge decline.
Eh. Tales of Xillia sold over 500k first week and has shipped 770k in Japan/Asia.
No ?
The best selling PS3 title sold around 200k less than the best selling PS2 title, there isn't a single other PS3 title above 450k when there are 3 on PS2 (Rebirth, Abyss, Destiny 2)
EDIT : Before I'm asked where does the number for Destiny 2 came from here ya go, it was from 2007 when Bamco said that there were 10 millions Tales of sold worldwide. I have no idea how Destiny 2 reached 977k (probably including asian numbers and stuff) but that's an official number.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
I could be wrong but I thought it was closer to 100k than 50k from the last numbers we got.
SSD had this promotion
translation:
1000yen upgrade for owners of Soul Sacrifice.
Also, owners of Soul Sacrifice with PS+ can play delta for Free.
Considering that, I think the game sold fine.
Oh wow, that's ok then...but we'll never know how many have upgraded (maybe digital sales?） bit one can assume that most of retain sales came from new players.
Ah haha, I didn't bother reading it myself. In which case it's not as stellar. It's a bit strange for them to offer SS1 for cheap before releasing Delta...I guess it's more for SS2 and maybe hoping people will upgrade later.
theprodigy
Member
1st Course
Member
Btw looking at the comparison Chris posted pages ago it does seems likely that the PS4 might fall behind the PS3 launch-aligned sales within a couple weeks.
PS4 will need to avg 20K in the next 6 weeks in order to not fall behind the PS3 week 9.
PS4 will need to avg 20K in the next 6 weeks in order to not fall behind the PS3 week 9.
My bad, I thought it's obvious that it would be a limited time offer and not forever, but yeah I should have put that in. Sorry for the guys that misunderstood.
Edit: damn my blindness. the offer is for SS orginal, not delta. fuck, sorry everyone
We had so many predictions that Vita will outsell 3DS for about a week. Wish fullfilment doesn't always work. Btw, has anyone here bought SS?
Which part of my 'most' users gave u the impression that I pretended there weren't any
Even more people thought wiiu would absolutely dominate the JP market you know..fun times those
And yes wiiu is not an indication..if it was the home console market would be dead in the west too. Mobile game sales show a bigger threat to the home console market and can actually be used as an indication of the changes in the market. WiiU is, as much as some will hate to admit, an unappealing console overall for the home console market. This is not just in Japan but worldwide
Does it contradict somehow what I said above ?