FullMetaltech
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Yeah but you have to understand its a gaming machine first. MS is a sofrware company and has much more experience in that area. I do hope they add better features soon cuz it much needed.
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PS4 FW 1.7 coming soon (HDCP off, Export video to USB, & Video Editor)
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The problem with PS3 updates was that they did pretty much nothing visible. Now we've had these stability updates in PS4, also, but no feature adding ones. Xbox One has been getting better, I hear.
I want my god damned suspend/resume!
Family Fry
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He should have asked will it drop sometime this week, damn him!
Sodding_Gamer
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Xbone hasn't been getting better. It has been adding in features that it should have already had to begin with. Granted PS4 has some missing features too but it was never as barebones as the Xbone was when it launched.
Besides last I heard the big update for ps4 is coming this month.
Thus...making it better than it was at launch.
Please. Put this on the Worst Posts Twitter.
Well I thought there would be some update news in this thread... Didn't expect that the news would be that it's not coming out today 
Have we heard anything from Sony regarding YouTube upload? I mean export to USB is great because I can then YouTube it myself but doing so right from ps4 would be great
Have we heard anything from Sony regarding YouTube upload? I mean export to USB is great because I can then YouTube it myself but doing so right from ps4 would be great
It's quite disappointing that this didn't materialise for whatever reason, particularly when Cerny talked about the feature on live television.
Doctor_Thomas
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Welp, that answers that.
Don't they usuaully drop after midnight in the UK?
Hope remains.
The only reason people are looking forward to this update is because Sony announced the features of it... that was less than 3 weeks ago...
OR...
because they (Sony) don't have a year of self-inflicted PR wounds to counteract they (MS) need to make more noise about anything to help develop an Xbone-positive conversational narrative, which going by comments on this thread, is working.
kidfresh718
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Can you hint as to what other features are coming in the update??
Well, they have to. It's an uphill battle for them (esp. Europe).
Afraid not, any feature update announces need to be coordinated by all SCE territories. Once given the green light an announcement will be made.
psychotron
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Celestial Mortal
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Is it still on track for this month? I hope we aren't waiting until the very end of the month, or possibly even into next month.
Canis lupus
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I just hope it comes out this week.
It's taking too long and this update still probably misses a Youtube integration.
kidfresh718
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Cool i hope friends online/offline notification is being added soon rather than later.
Yes MS knows software and it shows. And the software team is all in one place i think. Sony's resides in Japan still right?
There were bluray software updates throughout the beginning of 2007 on PS3. Meanwhile we still don't have 3D bluray support on PS4.
BruiserBear
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What kind of broken ass logic is this?
Sony constantly updated the PS3
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_system_software
But people were always complaining about it so Sony decided to do it less on PS4.
Who doesn't want a console to always improve? Updates wouldn't be a hassle on PS4 since it does it in the background.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_system_software
But people were always complaining about it so Sony decided to do it less on PS4.
Who doesn't want a console to always improve? Updates wouldn't be a hassle on PS4 since it does it in the background.
It's not broken logic.
From a PR perspective, MS have a reputational issue to overcome - getting positive press coverage is easy, but influencing community discussion is another matter.
To overcome this, one way is to ensure there is a constant stream of good news of one kind or another - lots of tweets & PR about system updates, how the interface is improving and so on - and an emphasis on ensuring there's something new-ish being talked about all the time.
It's how they're going about getting back positive mindshare, and getting back control over as much narrative space they can - a less generous way of describing might be fanboy service, since this is all stuff that console warriors will be lapping up and echoing in forums all over - the messaging being:
MS listens!
To YOU!
Xbox One is always improving!
You're a part of that process!
Buy an Xbox One and be part of this exciting community led upgrade path!
As I said, it's working too. Just a quick skim over some of the larger fora & boards and you'll see this stuff being reproduced ad inifinitum & ad nauseum, and as I also said, it's something MS wouldn't need to do if they weren't coming in off the back foot.
There have been many comments on this board about how MS needed to get away from the power comparison narrative - which if you look at Phil Spencer's comments in the Edge article linked to in the relevant thread:
they seem to have taken on board since this is a tacit admission of the gap between the consoles. So what this approach does is promote a positive thing that's solely about the Xbone - the OS updates making the experience better, and its a message that can only be really leveraged in social media.
It's a good approach and change of tack IMO.
pharmboy044
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Nice to see someone from SCEE posting here. I know Mochuuu from SCEA posts here to.
Hopefully we do get some info regarding when this update is going up.
Melchiah
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Huh? Worked fine for me the last time I used it, and there's the Twitter and message option (if you have two PSN accounts).
I think he's talking about video uploading
psychotron
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I uploaded a video last night and it worked fine. Strange.
BruiserBear
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I don't have the time to explain all the reasons why this is so silly, but I'll just give a few quick ones.
1) OS updates don't materialize overnight. These XB1 updates were in the pipeline probably since launch. They immediately knew what people were complaining about, and they set a Spring goal to address those issues. They appear to have hit that goal. Microsoft also says they've built the XB1 OS to allow them to update it on a much more rapid schedule than the 360 allowed for. They planned ahead to make their OS more flexible this gen.
2) You're suggestion that Microsft is doing this because things aren't going very well for them. As if any company that does good things now needs a negative reason motivating that action? Does apple release iPhone updates because the phone is selling poorly? Is it possible companies just release these updates to make their product better, and Microsoft just seems to be better at that than Sony? This isn't exactly new. The 360 OS was always a step ahead of the PS3 OS, and surprise surprise we're right back to that point now with these new consoles.
3) What does your logic tell us about Sony? They're less concerned about the glaring flaws their OS shipped with in November? Is that supposed to be a good thing? Because you seem to be spinning Microsoft's motivations as a pitiful response to bad news.
You realize the PS3 3d Bluray update came out in Sept 2010 right? Software takes time to write and test. Sony doesn't want to mess up and break ps4s or expose a security vulnerability. This is one of the strengths of Microsoft's 3 OS strategy. Since the Security layer is separated they can release updates onto the game and app layers with less worry of breaking their security.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I love my PS4. I really do, but Microsoft is just way better at delivering system updates. I'm still waiting for that suspended game mode.
Melchiah
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Ah, I haven't recorded & shared any videos.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Or.....
Maybe Sony wants to drop everything at once instead of monthly updates that keep them ahead without hassling customers every month with things that should be done from launch. I think the illusion of having frequent updates makes it sound better. But imagine if February, March and Aprils update dropped all at once. The impact would of been hell of bigger than a monthly update. I just see Sony adding everything at once, troubleshooting with stability updates, and then once again drop another huge one somewhere later down the line.
RoadHazard
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Uploading works fine, but actually capturing what you intended to is often broken.
Melchiah
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I'd definitely prefer that kind of approach, as the system updates aren't installed automatically, like the game patches.
Since you appear to either not understand or simply willfully ignore MS' PR situation, and how by turning a pre-existing roadmap into an rolling PR event they are taking a path which will benefit the brand as a whole there's little point in continuing this conversation.
Aaaand I've just seen your post history.
]AyaisMUsikWhore said:
Which is what I'm getting at. It's PR - they're taking something they were already doing, and turning it into a Big New Thing.
If the situations were reversed I suspect we'd see Sony doing something similar - small but frequent updates to get people talking, keeping the brand front of mind and all the things that happen when you strive to constantly be in the news and you want to have a contained, limited and positive message.
anonymous_abc
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Probably better not to get your hopes up... -.-
JonathanPower
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I think it's normal. Xbone OS was a real mess at launch, so they had a lot of stuff to fix. PS4 OS was a lot more mature and stable, so they just did some minor fixes.
SirMossyBloke
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I just want Sony to fix the fucking Netflix 5.1 issue. Or Netflix update their app....or just something.
Dead Prince
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it archived at the beginning but stopped one day. it's obv twitch end.
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