ShockingAlberto
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Mii probably IS gonna be in Smash. Perhaps to promote this series.
There's already a Tomodachi stage, anyway.
Mii probably IS gonna be in Smash. Perhaps to promote this series.
They localised Collection but not Tomodachi? What?!
Captain Rainbow had gay characters in it, didn't it?I don't think they will put gay marriage in this game from the looks of it, but if people campaigns about it hard enough Nintendo may put it at the next game.
Nintendo does not strike me as a company that tries actively to chase away gay people. Especially since the gay cause has gained tremendous strides lately in terms of acceptance and awareness.
I don't think they will put gay marriage in this game from the looks of it, but if people campaigns about it hard enough Nintendo may put it at the next game.
Nintendo does not strike me as a company that tries actively to chase away gay people. Especially since the gay cause has gained tremendous strides lately in terms of acceptance and awareness.
Captain Rainbow had gay characters in it, didn't it?
Nintendo will most likely have a post purchase club nintendo survey, people can also put in their request to make the option available in future installments.
Nah I wasn't thinking of Birdo there. Oh well. I still want to plau that game.you might be thinking of how they portrayed Birdo, which was not as gay but trangender, and if i recall correctly was in an extremely transmisogynistic way.
the problem with that is the post purchase part, i have no desire to purchase this game. there should be a way to tell Nintendo about these requests without supporting the business practice.
You can prob do it in an intend to buy survey
You don't have actually buy the stuff with that
question... Is this Nintendo kicking their very early pre E3 game info into gear. I mean a whole direct for Smash and now this.... should we be expecting more?
I watched the trailer and wondered, how can they even charge money for this. Then i watched the Direct. Holy shit, i need this game even though i still don't understand what it is.
Mii probably IS gonna be in Smash.
It's just my opinion; I'm not aligning them according to leaks.Oh? Have we received enough indication that is going to be the case? So these rumors/leaks are turning out to be true? Sorry, haven't been paying much attention to recent SSB happenings.
That's right!ShockingAlberto said:There's already a Tomodachi stage, anyway.
Oh? Have we received enough indication that is going to be the case? So these rumors/leaks are turning out to be true? Sorry, haven't been paying much attention to recent SSB happenings.
It looked like Iwata and Reggie were in a relationship...?I didn't realize just how bizarre this game is.
I really would like to play it, but without same sex relationships, I feel that this game is just helping Nintendo regress even more in that regard. You can't plaster "Your Life" on the box and then restrict the player's options.
Blarg. :/
Yes, I would like them to spell it out.It looked like Iwata and Reggie were in a relationship...?
Does it have to spell it out?
Maybe one more ordinary Direct, but that's it. The Smash Direct was a smart move since they didn't spoil any new game surprises. There's always something to pull from in Smash. I also don't think Tomodachi is a good game to show off at E3.question... Is this Nintendo kicking their very early pre E3 game info into gear. I mean a whole direct for Smash and now this.... should we be expecting more?
I feel that this game is just helping Nintendo regress even more in that regard.
Well I don't know how many other games include them. Not many in my experience. To limit yourself to just those types of games, that must exclude 99%. I don't think you should look at Nintendo for social commentary, I don't think they thought about it.
I didn't play Mass Effect but that's one game.
This shit is being advertised as doing anything you want with your Mii/Celebrities/Friends but lolnope gay relationships are not real!!Well I don't know how many other games include them. Not many in my experience To limit yourself to just those types of games, that must exclude 99%. I don't think you should look at Nintendo for social commentary, I don't think they thought about it.
I didn't play Mass Effect but that's one game.
I'm sure they definitely have thought about it.Well I don't know how many other games include them. Not many in my experience. To limit yourself to just those types of games, that must exclude 99%. I don't think you should look at Nintendo for social commentary, I don't think they thought about it.
I didn't play Mass Effect but that's one game.
I mean that this is the perfect game for Nintendo to finally step into the present and offer same sex relationships in their games that have a relationship game mechanics.I don't even know what this is supposed to mean, do you mind explaining?
Too often, when homosexual relationships are offered, they treat every character as an option for a same-sex relationship, effectively making everyone bisexual and that really turns me off from games, especially as a bisexual person myself.
What? Animal Crossing doesn't let you do anything of the sort.This shit is being advertised as doing anything you want with your Mii/Celebrities/Friends but lolnope gay relationships are not real!!
The Sims let's you date the same sex and Animal Crossing is more progressive than this.
I would argue that not advertising same sex relationships isn't exactly Nintendo "regressing" considering they are probably one of the more open of the big three in this regards. They removed the option because it bugged the game due to two same sex people being able to "get pregnant" and have a baby. If they can fix that and add it back in I'm all for it, shouldn't be that hard.I didn't realize just how bizarre this game is.
I really would like to play it, but without same sex relationships, I feel that this game is just helping Nintendo regress even more in that regard. You can't plaster "Your Life" on the box and then restrict the player's options.
Blarg. :/
I mean that this is the perfect game for Nintendo to finally step into the present and offer same sex relationships in their games that have a relationship game mechanics.
By willfully denying this route, they are further pushing themselves back into a regressed state of thinking.
I don't think they will put gay marriage in this game from the looks of it, but if people campaigns about it hard enough Nintendo may put it at the next game.
Nintendo does not strike me as a company that tries actively to chase away gay people. Especially since the gay cause has gained tremendous strides lately in terms of acceptance and awareness.
The male pregnancy bug, and how they chose to "fix" it, is what has me worried. Of couse they could add the functionality to have same sex relationships, and even include a child mechanic through adoption, they just need the guts and fortitude to do it.I would argue that not advertising same sex relationships isn't exactly Nintendo "regressing" considering they are probably one of the more open of the big three in this regards. They removed the option because it bugged the game due to two same sex people being able to "get pregnant" and have a baby. If they can fix that and add it back in I'm all for it, shouldn't be that hard.
Does this mean my decision has been made up that its a game I shouldn't buy? No, I don't base my decisions on those kind of topics, but of course that doesn't mean you shouldn't either. I say get a campaign started, get some pressure and hopefully they'll see that there is a demand for it.
I feel that the way they handled gender in Animal Crossing: New Leaf was a pretty big step forward for the company, and they have had same sex relationships in past Nintendo games. (Though mainly ones that stayed in Japan.)I think I understand, although I disagree with the nothing that they're pushing back, because it implies they ever had made progress.
Sorry, I meant that Animal Crossing let's you cross dress, I didn't mean anything about dating in that game (lol)What? Animal Crossing doesn't let you do anything of the sort.
I'm sorry but you really ought to not think too much about some crazy wacky Japanese game that they decided to localize. The game was already made and done, what did you expect them to do, add that in specifically for the American release?
In Japan, there's not much demand for it, but if you want it in the next game maybe you could write to them (if the game doesn't flop in America). But it's probably not a priority from the creators of Wario Ware and Rythm Heaven making another silly game, not a life simulator (despite being advertised that way). No one's life is like this.
There isn't forced pregnancy.
I would argue that not advertising same sex relationships isn't exactly Nintendo "regressing" considering they are probably one of the more open of the big three in this regards. They removed the option because it bugged the game due to two same sex people being able to "get pregnant" and have a baby. If they can fix that and add it back in I'm all for it, shouldn't be that hard.
The character will saying something like "I want to have a baby" and you say if you think it's a good idea or not. If you choose not then I'm pretty sure they won't have one, until you decide otherwise.Oh? O:
From what I was reading it sounded like it was what followed from marriage in the game, Harvest Moon style.
Are we stuck with British accents in the EU version? And why does the EU box art look so terrible? :|
A pretty poor option, to be frank.An important thing to note is that, I think, the bug only allowed for male-male partnerships, not female-female partnerships.
Apparently, there are people in Japan who create Miis that look like their partner and just set them with the opposite gender. Far, far, far, far from any sort of ideal situation, but if you're desperate to do so, it's at least an option to consider. I suppose.
A pretty poor option, to be frank.
This isn't a response to you personally, but I wonder just how often straight people think about how much compromise and disappointment LGBT people have to go through in situations like these, when all we want to do is have fun and be able to enjoy games just as much as everyone else. :/
A pretty poor option, to be frank.
This isn't a response to you personally, but I wonder just how often straight people think about how much compromise and disappointment LGBT people have to go through in situations like these, when all we want to do is have fun and be able to enjoy games just as much as everyone else. :/
Not quite. There was no option for same sex relationships. The bug made it so that it was possible (I think the game was treating one of the characters as a girl even though it was a male Mii). They didn't remove an option, because the option didn't exist in the first place outside of the bug.
The character will saying something like "I want to have a baby" and you say if you think it's a good idea or not. If you choose not then I'm pretty sure they won't have one, until you decide otherwise.
No one is stopping you from discussing whatever you wish to about this game, or saying that you shouldn't play it. I honestly don't think you have anything to be disappointed about in that regard.I'm also disappointed that it's a rare chance we get such a quirky game and all people want to talk about is that it doesn't support same sex relationships in the thread. I get it, maybe you don't want to buy the game because of that. That's okay, but I still want to play the game and know more about what the game is than it isn't.
No one is stopping you from discussing whatever you wish to about this game, or saying that you shouldn't play it.
I honestly don't think you have anything to be disappointed about in that regard.
A pretty poor option, to be frank.
This isn't a response to you personally, but I wonder just how often straight people think about how much compromise and disappointment LGBT people have to go through in situations like these, when all we want to do is have fun and be able to enjoy games just as much as everyone else. :/
Great idea, Tyeforce! Will you let us know here once you've made your video or otherwise started your movement? I'd definitely like to support it myself and pass along your video, etc.
Let us know when you get this rolling. I want to support that movement.
I will definitely let you all know when I do something! I'll probably make a thread about it, if that's okay. Still not entirely sure what I'm gonna do...but I really, really feel the need to speak up and do something here. I should have more free time next week to put something together. But I'm really glad that a good amount of people seem to be speaking up about it already! Nintendo needs to know that they'll be alienating a lot of people if they release the game without support for same sex relationships... =/I'll support this too. It is important everyone can be represented and #Miiquality is very catchy
I'm still not sure why a separate topic is necessary, but if you feel the need, no one is stopping you.If I start a thread telling people explicitly not to talk about same sex relationships not being in the game then the only thing people will discuss about is that.
Yes, that is sadly another unfortunate aspect of human behavior, even within our "community", as you say. I have friends that range from many different aspects of the LGBT spectrum, and they too have been repressed by people that you think would be the most supportive. A lot of people are just jerks, sad to say.I've been told that I'm greedy or that my sexuality isn't real often enough by the LG side of the LGBT "community" to know that it's not just "straight" people who don't think about how other people feel. People, overall, tend to have difficulty emphasizing with other people they perceive as 'different'.
I do agree with you, though, that given a list of options, the gender-switch thing I wrote about above would be just about last on the list of 'ideal'.
I'm not sure how this statement even applies to the situation. Of course it's not real life, but it is a social sim meant to enact situations based on yourself and people you know/like, with a heavy emphasis on romantic relationships.I'm not saying that this is a proper excuse, but you do have to remember these people are running a business, and weigh the costs to benefits. Hopefully with enough strong words and talk they'll include the option in a future version, however it is highly unlikely we'll see it in this version. Also I would kind of argue that this is far from a realistic take on "life" wouldn't you?
No one is stopping you from discussing whatever you wish to about this game, or saying that you shouldn't play it. I honestly don't think you have anything to be disappointed about in that regard.
Obviously people feel strongly about the subject of same sex relationships, myself included, so that's what it has come up. But I can 100% guarantee you that we'd all rather be talking about the "fun" stuff as well, but it's very difficult to focus on that when you have once again been marginalized, especially when this game would be a perfect opportunity to make amends for that.
It's a serious issue that will greatly affect how a good amount of people will enjoy the game. Of course it's going to be talked about a lot, just as any other big flaw with any other game would be discussed. This one's even worse than, say, poor graphics or frame rate, though, because it's not exactly something that you can just ignore or just learn to deal with for the most part. Relationships are a huge part of the game, and if same sex relationships are omitted then many people won't really be able to enjoy the game to its fullest and see all of its content unless they choose to be in a relationship with a gender that they're not attracted to.I'm also disappointed that it's a rare chance we get such a quirky game and all people want to talk about is that it doesn't support same sex relationships in the thread. I get it, maybe you don't want to buy the game because of that. That's okay, but I still want to play the game and know more about what the game is than it isn't.
You don't know how many times I've thought this, or been told it by others.Well, hopefully Nintendo put the option for same-sex relationships in the future iteration of the game.
I don't know, its exclusion in this game doesn't strike me as something Nintendo do out of maliciousness towards gay community in their part, though maybe I am wrong. Hopefully the next game you can get what you want.
You don't know how many times I've thought this, or been told it by others.
"Hopefully"
When does it become reality? :/