Yes, I know. So I said it makes more sense when we talk about textures, and in any case, is in screen resolutions which makes no sense.
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GRID: Autosport - Announcement trailer and info
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Yes, I know. So I said it makes more sense when we talk about textures, and in any case, is in screen resolutions which makes no sense.
CodiesLoore
Member
Can't say too much on locations sorry, rest assured that we've got a great selection of circuits on offer, some old favourites, the odd 'legendary' and 1-2 new faces too.
So there's damage and tire wear, but no pit stops? Eh, that's a red flag for me.
Too skeptical on this after the trailer and GRID as a whole. I know TOCA 3 wasn't a pure sim, but GRID was also one of the worst handling games I've played, so I don't know. I'm glad you're going back to the roots, but I'll still wait until it's out before making any decisions.
Too skeptical on this after the trailer and GRID as a whole. I know TOCA 3 wasn't a pure sim, but GRID was also one of the worst handling games I've played, so I don't know. I'm glad you're going back to the roots, but I'll still wait until it's out before making any decisions.
CodiesLoore
Member
You know what, that's cool. The thing about racing games that a lot of the time you can only tell so much after playing them and we totally get that.
Once you've played it if you think it's still not for you then that's great, we hope to cross paths somewhere down the line, if you do like it, then welcome aboard.
Let me know what you think once you've taken it for a spin
guitarhero
Member
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
One question:
Will Open Wheel include something faster than a Formula 3? I mean, with Codies having the F1 license and all that, even if it's just one maker like in TRD3 and the Williams racers...
One question:
Will Open Wheel include something faster than a Formula 3? I mean, with Codies having the F1 license and all that, even if it's just one maker like in TRD3 and the Williams racers...
You know what, that's cool. The thing about racing games that a lot of the time you can only tell so much after playing them and we totally get that.
Once you've played it if you think it's still not for you then that's great, we hope to cross paths somewhere down the line, if you do like it, then welcome aboard.
Let me know what you think once you've taken it for a spin
Will do. Don't mean to sound like a negative nancy, but I was definitely one of the people who came off of TOCA expecting GRID to be just like it. Was incredibly disappointed with it and that's left me with a sting for all of CM's road racing games. I have loved every Dirt, however, so you guys have me on that. I'm definitely going to reserve judgement until I play it.
Are you planning a demo for PC?
Neuromancer
Member
Will open wheel racing legend Rick "The Ricker" Peterson be in the game?
Yes
YES!!!
I love you. Every game with split-screen absolutely has to have it in the PC version. Hate it when devs don't do that.
It's like quarter to six here in the UK so Loore might have gone home.
In the blog they mentioned being able to set some tuning options, about two thirds down I think.
I hope the sales of this game doesn't negatively impact whatever road racer ends up coming out for current gen. The sales for last gen are suffering from a severe case of fatigue while the thirst for current gen is through the roof. I wish developers had some foresight and saw that a generation that lasted 8 years doesn't need cross gen games almost a year after current gens release.
The game looks great and would of definitely bought it if it was on ps4 since I was a huge grid fan and detested grid 2, which autosport seems to be distancing itself from.
The game looks great and would of definitely bought it if it was on ps4 since I was a huge grid fan and detested grid 2, which autosport seems to be distancing itself from.
rahulkadukar
Member
Definite preorder for me. Just had one question is there going to be DLC?
Can you kindly share the uncompressed footage
Can you kindly share the uncompressed footage
People keep saying this but we've seen that this isn't the case for every last-gen port, however shit you think last-gen games look or how good you think these consoles are you are never garanteed 60fps, even for something like the last of us you'll hear them say ''we're targeting 60fps'' not ''it's 60fps, duh''.
Hah I think that I will pre-order the game if Loore can prove to me that he gets that reference.
Stoffinator
Member
Sounds more like they are going back to what ToCA Race Car Driver was. Which I am happy about.
CodiesLoore
Member
Customisation - yes, we've improved the livery editor in GRID 2
Upgrades - yes
Tuning - yes
Just got home
Bit early to be talking DLC, I'm not sure I want to open that discussion just yet!
The footage is up on Gamersyde if you want to take a look (first post)
Betta Lines
Member
If Codemasters couldn't make this game run at 60fps on a PS4/One, it would be an embarrassment. Even at 60fps, it would not be able to compete visually with the new generation of racers, so they're not going to do it. You're suggesting that they'd launch a game that is not competitive visually, and make it not competitive in terms of framerate?
Why aren't games like TR running at a locked 60frames a second when you have stuff like Killzone and Infamous on the system that completely blow it the fuck away, fact is you are not ensured 60fps on consoles with ports like this, sooner you realize that the less dissapointed you'll get.
I was originally "Christ, not another GRID game..."
I loved the original, but 2 just didn't click with me - the framerate on PS3 was not very smooth, and the controls were some of the weirdest-feeling in any racing game I've played last-gen. I would like to try it on PC because I know it does have a little bit of a following. It wasn't terrible, but on PS3 it just wasn't "good."
This, though... I get a distinct "Race Driver" vibe from what I see here that makes me want to go back and play TOCA 3 again (still own it, one of my favorite PS2 racers).
I wish it was coming out for PS4, but I can at least say I am a lot more interested than when I just read the headline. A lot more!
I loved the original, but 2 just didn't click with me - the framerate on PS3 was not very smooth, and the controls were some of the weirdest-feeling in any racing game I've played last-gen. I would like to try it on PC because I know it does have a little bit of a following. It wasn't terrible, but on PS3 it just wasn't "good."
This, though... I get a distinct "Race Driver" vibe from what I see here that makes me want to go back and play TOCA 3 again (still own it, one of my favorite PS2 racers).
I wish it was coming out for PS4, but I can at least say I am a lot more interested than when I just read the headline. A lot more!
NullPointer
Member
Didn't play Grid 2 because of no cockpit view.
Can't play Grid Autosport because of no current gen version.
I can't win :/
Can't play Grid Autosport because of no current gen version.
I can't win :/
I'm so glad they've gone back this way. But I feel a little uneasy about the fact it's still called GRID (and the logo is a bit patronising if you're going for a totally different audience). For the ultimate nostalgia guilt trip purchase they should have gone back to TOCA.
Also the AI is worrying. It's awful in the F1 games.
Also the AI is worrying. It's awful in the F1 games.
Betta Lines
Member
I'm not sure what you're arguing about - I'm certainly not asking for it on console, and Codemasters have just stated that they have no plans to do so. All I'm saying is that it would be embarrassing if a racing game with assets optimised for 360/PS3 didn't run at 60fps on the newer hardware. Tomb Raider is an unreasonable comparison, as it is less critical to have a locked 60 in an action game, and they wanted to justify the 'definitive' status with a bunch of visual upgrades. TR could have been comfortably 60 - disabling TressFX would have been a good start - that single feature halved the performance on many PCs. But they kept it in because "it was always about pushing ourselves, our tech, and wanting to create an unprecedented level of detail as our first steps towards a next-gen Lara". Racing games have a different set of priorities - a solid framerate is (usually) higher up the list.
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
Sigh.... Last gen only... Why the fuck did I buy a PS4 again? Will never be an early adopter again after the burn of these last few months. Lesson learnt.
Hmm, I could play another GRiD. Really liked the first one, didn't play the second.
Though, and maybe I just don't "get" motorsport here, I'd prefer if they didn't do the same real-world locations we've already played in so many racing games already. Make some fresh ones. I don't wanna do Le Mans, Nurnburgring etc again.
Though, and maybe I just don't "get" motorsport here, I'd prefer if they didn't do the same real-world locations we've already played in so many racing games already. Make some fresh ones. I don't wanna do Le Mans, Nurnburgring etc again.
Neuromancer
Member
You don't have a PS3 kicking around somewhere?
CodiesLoore
Member
This is the post i quoted.
It would surely be 60fps even though we know that isn't the case for many of these games being ported to current-gen.
The hair tech in TR btw is not only more optimized but also less costly cause it doesn't render as many strains of hair as on the pc, add to that no real tesselation and lesser textures in places means it's just a bad port overal, it's also not like it's using tress-fx on every character, TR in it's current form on Ps4 should run 60fps locked, but it doesn't, 60fps is never a sure thing on consoles, ever.
Racing games used to run @ 60fps pretty regularly but looking back at the last console generation most of the racing games run at a shoddy 30fps, it wasn't a priority for 8 years, why would they suddenly start making it one now? Driveclub still 30fps? If so that just proves that 30fps is here to stay for racing games even though that has little to do with this thread or this discussion.
In short, not sure what i'm arguing, i saw a post that made a claim that i knew to be bullshit, called it out, let's just leave it at that.
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
While I'm certainly interested to see how this turns out and it sounds like they are making the right moves for the Grid franchise, I can't help but be disappointed that they seem to be ditching the handling model from Grid 2.
While the handling in Grid 2 was far more arcadey than most people expected (probably moreso than PGR even) and I get why people were disappointed with it in a Grid game, for what it was, I LOVED the heavy emphasis on drifting combined with the supreme amount of control you had at all times. While not all that realistic as a whole, it was extremely engaging and thrilling from moment to moment in a way that most racing games don't come close to.
I just hope that a version of Grid 2 handling can return someday, maybe in a new franchise? Ideally for me Codemasters would have Grid and Dirt being more sim-focused racers in their various disciplines, F1, and then a more arcadey PGR-like game with the drift-heavy control that Grid 2 had.
While the handling in Grid 2 was far more arcadey than most people expected (probably moreso than PGR even) and I get why people were disappointed with it in a Grid game, for what it was, I LOVED the heavy emphasis on drifting combined with the supreme amount of control you had at all times. While not all that realistic as a whole, it was extremely engaging and thrilling from moment to moment in a way that most racing games don't come close to.
I just hope that a version of Grid 2 handling can return someday, maybe in a new franchise? Ideally for me Codemasters would have Grid and Dirt being more sim-focused racers in their various disciplines, F1, and then a more arcadey PGR-like game with the drift-heavy control that Grid 2 had.
NullPointer
Member
Replaced two weeks ago with a new Xbone w/ Forza and handed down to a friend as an upgrade from their Foreman Grill launch PS3. I'm all current gen, all the time now.
Here's hoping I jump in on Codie's next set of games.
Yeah, this puts my feelings about Grid 2 into words perfectly. I can wholly appreciate that it might not have suited what fans wanted from the Grid franchise, but hopefully Codemasters don't abandon the brilliant arcade handling of the second game completely and build on it for another game instead.
Betta Lines
Member
I'm afraid your points don't change my 'bullshit' view. Grid Autosport would be 60fps on current gen consoles. It is very easy to get recent Codemasters' games running at 60 on very modest PCs. To suggest otherwise, with this unnecessary 'evidence' regarding ports of action games, is severely underrating Codemasters' coding ability. They would make it so, or not do it at all. They are choosing the latter, probably because it would take a bit of work, and once it was running at 60, it still wouldn't look that great compared to the other racing games on the new platforms - that much is clear from the nice 60fps version of the trailer. It looks good, but it's not going to blow minds on the visual side when you put it next to Forza, DriveClub, PCARS, etc.
Natureboy99
Banned
Why should I care more about this game more than Project CARS or Driveclub?
cuz mario kart 8 is coming out.
Well it has an actual release date which is a big plus.
Also there's some gameplay in this Eurogamer Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC8jFfM6FfA&feature=player_embedded
Neuromancer
Member
Bummer. =\
Wow those cockpits...ouch...
I think they are more distracting than if there was just no cockpits at all. What's the point of doing it if they are super half-assed?
I mostly drive with the hood cars generally so it's not really a deal breaker for me but I love to drive open wheels cars from the cockpit and the footage in that Eurogamer clip makes it just annoying and distracting.
I think they are more distracting than if there was just no cockpits at all. What's the point of doing it if they are super half-assed?
I mostly drive with the hood cars generally so it's not really a deal breaker for me but I love to drive open wheels cars from the cockpit and the footage in that Eurogamer clip makes it just annoying and distracting.
bee
Member
true but when it looks as good as it does AND runs at literally double the framerate of pcars in triple screen (40 vs 80fps average) then yeah i don't really care about the 20% improvement in visuals for the 50% loss in performance, oh and actually in game, no screenshots, no replay or unplayable settings or anything, i'd say grid 2 looks better than pcars in motion
Betta Lines
Member
I think it's brave to handle the cockpit like they have done. It looks like they blur more the quicker you're moving. It doesn't look awful but I'd have thought they'd go with a more traditional one after the backlash in Grid 2.
EDIT: For the guys arguing about next gen versions, it's talked about a bit at the end of this Eurogamer vid.
EDIT: For the guys arguing about next gen versions, it's talked about a bit at the end of this Eurogamer vid.
CodiesLoore
Member
There's a good interview here too FYI: http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/g...t-gen_game_it_wont_be_a_current-gen_port.html