If your typical AAA game is a Tastykake Butterscotch Krimpet, then these games are Hostess Zingers.
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PlayStation Indie Showcase in a Half-Hour
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If your typical AAA game is a Tastykake Butterscotch Krimpet, then these games are Hostess Zingers.
I don't know anything about the narrative to which you refer, if you're suggesting I said that because of some Xbox preference, you are wrong.
MS implemented a simple rule because they don't want their audience treated like second class citizens, and despite not having an XBO, and right now can't see that changing, I think that's a positive thing, exactly as it was last generation when they both did it.
There are downsides for the developers, certainly, but if they're choosing to be on a console, they also choose to conform to the rules of that platform.
Okey, they got me **puts Axiom in his list of games to buy Day1**
And here you're merely asserting it again, despite acknowledging evidence to the contrary in a previous post.
Weak.
perhaps if they had tools and information available for devs in a timely manner, their consumers would get the games sooner? Instead they seem to need a parity clause to slow up playstation delivery so MS can catch up.
It only 'slows' PS4 releases if they would rather do that than not release on XBO, I don't see what's wrong with that. It's a pretty simply stance, they own the platform, they set the rules.
Delusibeta
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The problem with this argument is that now Xbox owners will be treated like second-class citizens since they will probably see none of these games on the Xbone thanks to the parity clause. Unless, of course, Microsoft allows for twelve exceptions, in which case why have the parity clause in the first place?
It's an interesting thing because presumably MS doesn't actually require a developer to confirm when they signed their deals with Sony, and if you already have, the id rules don't quite apply, and they're debatable anyway.
However, you're quite right of course, it will only hurt their audience, I think it's a bad idea, I just don't think it's 'unethical' as many seem to.
ieatzombies
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To add to the sentiment. I'll definitely be picking up axiom as soon as it releases!
They know for a fact some devs are too small to support 2-3 platforms at once. They're looking for free timed exclusives if anything.
I guess for a developer who wants to be on PS4/XBO and Steam, but can only possibly handle one submission at a given time, it means they'd have to be on XBO before PS4, but I think as we're seeing, people are either adopting to multiSKU submissions, or they don't care about being on XBO. I think if the idea is to create default exclusives, not just parity releases, it would only lose them games and create additional disdain for the platform.
Regardless of the requirements, an indie's relationship with PlayStation, and it's audience, is much more important than with MS right now, so it doesn't seem like MS would be in a position to strong arm indies, if that was the intent.
TetraGenesis
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Tell me about it! Indie games have become a bold new home for excellent indie musicians.
I have said nothing about MS or the Xbox. I didn't even infer it. I'm tired of the following formula.
That or some other variation is a pointless hypothetical situation that has no place in threads about discussing reality as it currently is and could be. Not would be.Imaginary McGee said:
Alright. You're clear with me. MS needs to fail (maybe this 6 months they already have) so that can start overcorrecting some of their more harmful polices that affect the games industry as a whole. The Parity Clause at least, negatively impact not only developers, and their competition, but themselves too.
Coolbgdog12
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Okay axiom, nidhogg and apotheon look crazy.
I've not had a chance to watch through every game trailer yet, but Drifter looks really good for and I will more than likely be getting that.
Who do we thank? Shahid? Probably Shahid.
Nick Suttner actually
outunderthestars
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Nick Suttner actually
Thank you Nick!!!!
outunderthestars
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Weird double post.
normalmode
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Also today at the event...
Someone shop a hate behind that money please. Just cause why not.
TheRealTalker
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Oh my what a surprise thread
New indies are always welcome
New indies are always welcome
Nightengale
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Also today at the event...
Galak-z director never seen Gunbuster!?
normalmode
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The hands-on line up at the event. Impressions tomorrow morning.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Axiom Verge looks absolutely amazing, pretty damn cool music as well. Never tried Nidhoggg, looks pretty bomb though. Cool idea for a game.
The_Inquisitor
Member
God my wallet is taking so many critical hits recently.
Holy shit that's a hell of a list !! There's gonna be a freaking blowout of tradeshow sizes if that's everything that embargoed !! Where's Volume and Cosmic Star Heroine though ? Good thing I already have some money set aside for most of these games.
The hands-on line up at the event. Impressions tomorrow morning.
Hands-On with PS4's next big indie games: N++, Binding of Isaac Rebirth, Metrico and The Witness
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ing-of-isaac-rebirth-metrico-and-the-witness/
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ing-of-isaac-rebirth-metrico-and-the-witness/
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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I need Aztez impressions stat!
Seriously, it would be amazing for someone who understands combat systems on an advanced level to have some hands on time with it.
Seriously, it would be amazing for someone who understands combat systems on an advanced level to have some hands on time with it.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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Still working on it. Not at a "Let other people play it" stage yet, though we hope to have some gameplay footage in time for E3.
if you are a small developer and don't have the capacity to develop both at once, or the money to survive sitting on one version while you finish the other, then you don't have the luxury to choose which you'd 'rather' release on.
Choice is fine. The MS parity clause reduces choice. Free unity and access to dev kits should be enough incentive for MS to get first release.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Sony going to get you guys on stage? Would seriously be awesome to see you there.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
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Nothing like that is currently planned, though I do live near E3.
Man-is-Obsolete
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It has to feel amazing to just be there with a game of your own to share. A lot of people are eager to see more of CSH.
lightning2k3
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Damn. All these games are crazy! Sony really is doing a good job. Cant wait to play them all. Although it would be great if they got the games on the vita.
It seems like it's really a simple iOS style maze puzzle game but you have to traverse a lush world to get to the next puzzle instead of some simple grid. Strange.
Maxwell McGee and I wrote about six games we hadn't seen before: Chariot, To Leave, Aztez, Velocity 2X, Source, and N++ if you're interested
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/6-refreshing-indie-games-new-to-the-playstation-network/1100-6419339/
Absolutely amazing lineup.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/6-refreshing-indie-games-new-to-the-playstation-network/1100-6419339/
Absolutely amazing lineup.
Omnistalgic
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Whoa...a good 3-4 must haves from first impressions...I hope more people get exposed to what is happening in the industry..something for everyone in the industry right now...