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[sTaTIx]

That's ok we still have 1080 60fps forza..... Now drive club.....

Lol, it always goes back to Forza, doesn't it?

Why don't these people address the fact that 80-90% of Xbone games run at lower than 1080p resolution?

 

[MercuryLS]

No deal with Assassin's Creed.

You're missing my point. Exclusive games are one thing. If a game is exclusive to your platform, then yes, of course you advertise it as an exclusive. That's completely understandable.

The issue we're talking about here is putting a logo at the end of a multiplatform game's commercial to mislead ignorant consumers into thinking the game is exclusive.

The original Assassin's Creed was revealed as a PS3 game, they couldn't even mention the Xbox 360 version for a long time. I remember people thinking it was exclusive for the longest time. You don't think that's misleading?

I understand that some people try to make MS out to be the villain here, but Sony's no saint. It's just business.

 

[fasTRapid]

Why would they opt to show their worst version as the first major reveal for the game though? Either they'll gimp the PS4 version or they'll never show it prelaunch I'm guessing.

Of the top of my head, I believe, we never saw Ghosts run on a PS4 pre-launch either (There's a huge likelyness of my memory failing me though).

 

[Intheflorsh]

I'm in it for the Spacey.

 

[SeanR1221]

Of the top of my head, I believe, we never saw Ghosts run on a PS4 pre-launch either (There's a huge likelyness of my memory failing me though).

Wasn't there that whole thing it was only shown on ps4 and then everyone started going nuts?

 

[sTaTIx]

The original Assassin's Creed was revealed as a PS3 game, they couldn't even mention the Xbox 360 version for a long time. I remember people thinking it was exclusive for the longest time. You don't think that's misleading?

I understand that some people try to make MS out to be the villain here, but Sony's no saint. It's just business.

I forgot about Assassin's Creed, and its PS3 reveal. I stand corrected.

 

[Kacho]

Was there any press release, or is it just amazon UK we're going off of for platforms? Amazon can safely assume PS4bonePS360PC. WiiU isn't as safe an assumption to make obviously.

I'm leaning towards expecting it to come to Wii U. Probably from the same small dedicated Wii U team at Treyarch. Having done so two years in a few, it'll probably be easy enough for them to shit out a Wii U port for modest cost. Obviously whenever crossgen dries up that'll be it (unless a miracle happens with Smash/MK8, and even then..).

We're just going by what's posted on Amazon I believe. Watch it get announced in July again lol.

 

[puffyshirt]

Why would they opt to show their worst version as the first major reveal for the game though? Either they'll gimp the PS4 version or they'll never show it prelaunch I'm guessing.

It's not about which version is actually running, since they will both look exactly the same on shitty compressed online videos. It's all about that line that precedes the video "Footage captured on an Xbox One", being pretty good marketing for them.

 

[Pain]

I like Kevin Spacey.

But, I'm fairly amazed that COD immediately ripped off Titanfall Parkour. I guess they really thought it would be the new hot thing?

And, sorry, but that suit just reminds me of this:

G.I. Joe "Accelerator Suit". Lovely.

Game has been in development for years dude. They didn't have time to copy Titanfall. Besides the game looks nothing like Titanfall. This isn't Syfy and there's no titans....the only similarity is better mobility but even that is different. There's no double jump in the his game as far as I'm aware.

 

[Majanew]

Lol, it always goes back to Forza, doesn't it?

Why don't these people address the fact that 80-90% of Xbone games run at lower than 1080p resolution?

80-90%? Yeah, that's some bullshit lies there.

 

[Coolwhip]

If money can get you websites like IGN to mislead their readers about the platforms, couldn't MS just pay some $$$ for a PS4 version that's the same resolution?

 

[PnCIa]

The shadow resolution looks horrible...yeah i know its early

 

[Metfanant]

Wasn't there that whole thing it was only shown on ps4 and then everyone started going nuts?

it was shown at either the Xbone unveil or their E3 press conference....running on mega PC's with Xbone controllers and passed off as the Xbone version...

If money can get you websites like IGN to mislead their readers about the platforms, couldn't MS just pay some $$$ for a PS4 version that's the same resolution?

lets be fair...IGN was just reporting facts...as of the time it went up on their site we had only seen the video showing the Xbone and 360 games...they were playing it safe, not misleading...

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Lol, it always goes back to Forza, doesn't it?

Why don't these people address the fact that 80-90% of Xbone games run at lower than 1080p resolution?

Console wars really

 

[stryke]

I recall it starting with MW2 and GTAIV on the 360. Sony only first started following suit with BF3 in 2011, and now Destiny/Watch_Dogs, etc.

Actually Sony had exclusive Joker for Challenge Mode (or whatever it was called) in Arkham Asylum in 2009

 

[sTaTIx]

Wasn't there that whole thing it was only shown on ps4 and then everyone started going nuts?

The first real gameplay footage running on console was demoed on PS4 at IGN a few months before release.

 

[Nokterian]

I can't possibly imagine how they will shake up the multiplayer enough to get me interested after Titanfall, but maybe we can get a good single player campaign out of this.

Parkour..ehm no. I don't expect any of that. Just your casual corridor shooter. And yes after titanfall i can't go back doing just normal shooting.

 

[Pain]

No deal with Assassin's Creed.

You're missing my point. Exclusive games are one thing. If a game is exclusive to your platform, then yes, of course you advertise it as an exclusive. That's completely understandable.

The issue we're talking about here is putting a logo at the end of a multiplatform game's commercial to mislead ignorant consumers into thinking the game is exclusive.


To be fair, it actually seems like Sony is the one doing it more this generation (a lot more). Watch_Dogs, Destiny, ACIV, and others.

I'm sure everyone knows by now that Call Of Duty is also on Playstation.

 

[MercuryLS]

I forgot about Assassin's Creed, and its PS3 reveal. I stand corrected.

I'm not saying that I agree with co-marketing, personally I don't think it's all that effective when you can do a quick google search and see that a game isn't exclusive, or go to the store at launch and see it on shelves for multiple platforms. Timed exclusive DLC is very annoying though and I'd imagine it only really sways the really hardcore fans buying decision, for everyone else it's just an annoyance waiting an extra month for the DLC.

 

[Waylon Drums]

Too bad Kevin Spacey is a chickenhawk predator who likes his boys young. Can't really enjoy him knowing that.

 

[RoadHazard]

"All next-gen development cycle". Game is cross-gen. Hmm.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

Why would they opt to show their worst version as the first major reveal for the game though? Either they'll gimp the PS4 version or they'll never show it prelaunch I'm guessing.

PS4 version will not be gimped, it's just a marketing deal MS has with Activision.

 

[sTaTIx]

80-90%? Yeah, that's some bullshit lies there.

You think I'm lying? Let's make a list, and create a tally of all the Xbone games that have come out so far that are actually are native 1080p.

 

[Majanew]

You think I'm lying? Let's make a list, and create a tally of all the Xbone games that have come out so far that are actually are native 1080p.

Forza Motorsport 5 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Ryse -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Dead Rising 3 -- 1280x720 / 30fps
Killer Instinct -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Battlefield 4 -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Call of Duty: Ghosts -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Need For Speed: Rivals -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Madden NFL 25 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
FIFA 14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
NBA 2K14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
NBA Live 14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Powerstar Golf -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Max: Curse of the Brotherhood -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Zoo Tycoon -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Lococycle -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Crimson Dragon -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Kinect Sports Rivals -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition -- 1920x1080 / 30fps (Cutscenes 1600x900 / 30fps)
LEGO Marvel Superheroes -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Halo: Spartan Assault -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Strider -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Rayman Legends -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
The LEGO Movie Videogame -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare -- 1600x900 / 60fps
Thief -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Titanfall -- 1408x792 / 60fps
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes -- 1280x720 / 60fps
UFC -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Watch Dogs -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Wolfenstein: The New Order -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Dying Light -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Murdered: Soul Suspect -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
The Crew -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Trials Fusion -- 1600x900 / 60fps
LEGO: The Hobbit -- 1920x1080 / 30fps

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

"All next-gen development cycle". Game is cross-gen. Hmm.

Yeah right, bunch of lierssssss!!! Hehe

 

[MercuryLS]

Too bad Kevin Spacey is a chickenhawk predator who likes his boys young. Can't really enjoy him knowing that.

What?

 

[JetBlackPanda]

I was excited for the time traveling world war 1 vet. This shit just seems forced. How many more bridges to we have to destroy COD? Advanced Warfare really?

edit: Kevin Spacey is pretty awesome though.

 

[vpance]

Of the top of my head, I believe, we never saw Ghosts run on a PS4 pre-launch either (There's a huge likelyness of my memory failing me though).

They did show it. There was at least the IGN PS4 MP footage I believe.

It's not about which version is actually running, since they will both look exactly the same on shitty compressed online videos. It's all about that line that precedes the video "Footage captured on an Xbox One", being pretty good marketing for them.

Maybe so, to most people. Someone will get a decent pixel count of it soon enough and then the sub 1080p res will leak.

 

[Kouriozan]

Please don't tell me they'll hide the Wii U version and will announce it months after the reveal, AGAIN?
If there is indeed a Wii U version, it'll be the 3rd time, I call that moneyhat.

 

[puffyshirt]

Forza Motorsport 5 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Ryse -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Dead Rising 3 -- 1280x720 / 30fps
Killer Instinct -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Battlefield 4 -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Call of Duty: Ghosts -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Need For Speed: Rivals -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Madden NFL 25 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
FIFA 14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
NBA 2K14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
NBA Live 14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Powerstar Golf -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Max: Curse of the Brotherhood -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Zoo Tycoon -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Lococycle -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Crimson Dragon -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Kinect Sports Rivals -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition -- 1920x1080 / 30fps (Cutscenes 1600x900 / 30fps)
LEGO Marvel Superheroes -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Halo: Spartan Assault -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Strider -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Rayman Legends -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
The LEGO Movie Videogame -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare -- 1600x900 / 60fps
Thief -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Titanfall -- 1408x792 / 60fps
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes -- 1280x720 / 60fps
UFC -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Watch Dogs -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Wolfenstein: The New Order -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Dying Light -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Murdered: Soul Suspect -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
The Crew -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Trials Fusion -- 1600x900 / 60fps
LEGO: The Hobbit -- 1920x1080 / 30fps

Quick on the burn.

 

[Chobel]

Forza Motorsport 5 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Ryse -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Dead Rising 3 -- 1280x720 / 30fps
Killer Instinct -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Battlefield 4 -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Call of Duty: Ghosts -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Need For Speed: Rivals -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Madden NFL 25 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
FIFA 14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
NBA 2K14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
NBA Live 14 -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Powerstar Golf -- 1280x720 / 60fps
Max: Curse of the Brotherhood -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Zoo Tycoon -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Lococycle -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Crimson Dragon -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Kinect Sports Rivals -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition -- 1920x1080 / 30fps (Cutscenes 1600x900 / 30fps)
LEGO Marvel Superheroes -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Halo: Spartan Assault -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Strider -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Rayman Legends -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
The LEGO Movie Videogame -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare -- 1600x900 / 60fps
Thief -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Titanfall -- 1408x792 / 60fps
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes -- 1280x720 / 60fps
UFC -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Watch Dogs -- 1600x900 / 30fps
Wolfenstein: The New Order -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Dying Light -- 1920x1080 / 60fps
Murdered: Soul Suspect -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
The Crew -- 1920x1080 / 30fps
Trials Fusion -- 1600x900 / 60fps
LEGO: The Hobbit -- 1920x1080 / 30fps

lol. Where did you copy that from?

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

Now the Thread derailed to a Xone X ps4 resolution war... Come on

 

[SeanR1221]

List waaaaaaars

 

[puffyshirt]

Maybe so, to most people. Someone will get a decent pixel count of it soon enough and then the sub 1080p res will leak.

To the people who care enough about those videos, the marketing won't sway them either way anyway. This is the CoD crowd. If any crowd doesn't care about pixel count, it's the CoD crowd.

 

[sTaTIx]

I'm sure everyone knows by now that Call Of Duty is also on Playstation.

Definitely not everyone. Most or all hardcore gamers and Gaffers know it's not exclusive. Maybe a large majority of semi-casual COD-bros know. But there are reasons COD has consistently sold more on Xbox than PS for the past 5+ years. Yes, the Xbox fanbase is arguably more FPS-centric, but marketing is also an influencing force. Mommy or daddy looking to buy an Xmas present for their kid just sees the latest COD commercial, and assumes it's an Xbox game.

 

[Applesauce]

Now the Thread derailed to a Xone X ps4 resolution war... Come on

Also list wars. FFS

 

[Majanew]

lol. Where did you copy that from?

It's my list. Been compiling once resolutions and frame-rates are confirmed.

 

[Wildarmsjecht]

Too bad Kevin Spacey is a chickenhawk predator who likes his boys young. Can't really enjoy him knowing that.

....Wha..what, what is this?

 

[Terbinator]

It's my list. Been compiling once resolutions and frame-rates are confirmed.

Which house do you fight for?

 

[Drakeon]

Please don't tell me they'll hide the Wii U version and will announce it months after the reveal, AGAIN?
If there is indeed a Wii U version, it'll be the 3rd time, I call that moneyhat.

Who would be paying Activision not to announce the Wii U version? It's not really going to affect how the PS4 or Xbone version sells...

 

[Majanew]

Which house do you fight for?

Sonysoft PlayBox 4

 

[mangochutney]

The amount of aliasing in some segments is very telling that currently this game is not running in 1080p all the time. Pics are from gamersyde HQ video, and it looks worse in motion than on stills [very noticeable aliasing shimmer]:

But OK, it's still early.

It is odd because in the opening segment the AA looks really good, but then as you say in other parts it looks weak.

That 2nd shot of yours looks like they've stuck with the IW engine to me. It's got that same feel and look about it.

 

[stryke]

*list*

A bit presumptuous with Watch Dogs unless I've missed something?

 

[RoKKeR]

It's my list. Been compiling once resolutions and frame-rates are confirmed.

Console wars are serious business.

Game description on Amazon fits for what I was hoping for. If they can deliver on a little bit of that freedom they were mentioning then I'm all in.

 

[Wattie1980]

All aboard the hype train.

 

[maquiladora]

L1st warz?

 

[puffyshirt]

Definitely not everyone. Most or all hardcore gamers and Gaffers know it's not exclusive. Maybe a large majority of semi-casual COD-bros know. But there are reasons COD has consistently sold more on Xbox than PS for the past 5+ years. Yes, the Xbox fanbase is arguably more FPS-centric, but marketing is also an influencing force. Mommy or daddy looking to buy an Xmas present for their kid just sees the latest COD commercial, and assumes it's an Xbox game.

No, it's not that no one knows it's on PS, it's that they didn't care. For multiplayer games, people buy where their friends buy. That's why no matter how much marketing, there's a chance PS4 will sell more copies this go round.

 

[Doran902]

Didn't they tell us last year that Ghosts was the first next gen COD? This one also has 360/ps3 versions so I don't believe them.

 

[WeAreKappa]

JESUS CHRIST... The TRAILER isn't even 24 hours old and people are already talking about tech stuff on neogaf.. God damn. I honestly don't quite understand all the obsession on these forums.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Please don't tell me they'll hide the Wii U version and will announce it months after the reveal, AGAIN?
If there is indeed a Wii U version, it'll be the 3rd time, I call that moneyhat.

There's no moneyhat involved. Activision forgets that Treyarch exists until about a week before release.

They're just as surprised as we are when they're sent a final build.