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[Omnistalgic]

Sony has opened my eyes back up to the quality and diversity you can get from indies, I can't think of the last time I have owned a system where every month a game comes out that I have enjoyed. It is to a point now where 2-4 games are coming out each month and I am starting to think I won't have time to keep up.

Octodad tomorrow
Child of light April 29th
MLB the Show 14 May 6
Transistor May 20
Watch Dogs May 27

whoa!! Secret ponchos is gonna be on plus?! That's awesome...

 

[m@cross]

But indie games don't count!

...unless you like fun

 

[SolidSnakex]

Wolfenstein discounted June 10

fixed again

Want it, but not full price, and with so much to play besides it, works out to be a June release for me

That would be terrible if Wolfenstein turns out as well as its sounding. It's a throwback to shooters of the 90's and is doing away with modern FPS design. It deserves a lot of success if it turns out to be a good game.

 

[m@cross]

whoa!! Secret ponchos is gonna be on plus?! That's awesome...

Sorry I had to edit that out of my post to not be super wrong... according to recent twitter posts it it Fall on PS4.

However talking to the guy at PAX, he said "it will be free for plus"

My buddy thought he told him it would be out in a couple months as well, but that seems to be contradicted now.

That would be terrible if Wolfenstein turns out as well as its sounding. It's a throwback to shooters of the 90's and is doing away with modern FPS design. It deserves a lot of success if it turns out to be a good game.

I mean as a used copy or on sale for like $40, not because it does poorly. Played it at PAX and was actually impressed with it, I think it will sell well.

 

[m@cross]

..

 

[Freeman]

I don't know why you made this. I don't see any games for PS4. 7 million dumb asses.

Perfection. This image is great, thanks.

 

[ShogunDarius]

Pier Solar HD was meant to be out this month too, not sure if its still going to though, Dev has gone silent

 

[frizby]

whoa!! Secret ponchos is gonna be on plus?! That's awesome...

It was one of the original freebies Sony announced:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/10/sony-ps-plus-driveclub/

 

[Hellshy.]

To be fair you'd also have to add whether AF is utilized in the game or not too.

being that there is no real reason some games neglected AF on ps4., I don't think it will be much of a problem in the future. Besides you could chock it up to early dev tools just like everyone does with MS except that doesn't work b/c plenty of more demanding games use AF on ps4.
Will we ever know why some have seem to neglect it ?

 

[andromeduck]

I think at this point setting up a github.io page would be simpler.

 

[Biker19]

They also purchased Sucker Punch, and a lot of Sony studios did grow a low and now have 2 or 3 internal teams. In addition to this, they also had 2nd/3rd party studios like Quantic Dream, ThatGameCompany, Housemarque, Ninja Theory, Queasy Games, Zingagi, Tarsier, Double 11 or Novarama working on Sony exclusive IPs.

To do it gave them a lot of exclusive games, both new and existing internal IPs that never won't move anywhere as did the old 3rd party exclusives from the past, where MS has been relying too much.

Now Molyneux, CliffyB and Bungie left, Epic is not interested on more Gears and IPs like Bioshock, Lost Planet, Dead Rising or Mass Effect were ported elsewhere.

Yes, MS has to hire people to create new studios or teams and maybe to purchase some big 3rd party studios to match Sony's great output of exclusives instead of focusing on moneyhatting 3rd party games that sooner or later go multi.

Now they don't have all these people developing exclusive stuff and in the long term would be more profitable for them.

All this exclusive content really did help PS3, like price drops, OS/PSN improvements to match XBL, multis started to don't suck on PS3, new services like PS Plus.

To make a great comeback MS needs to price drop at least $150 to compensate the difference in horsepower that is more visible than last gen in multis (probably dropping Kinect), to match PS Plus/PS Now/Morpheus and to make a great investment in 1st party studios and internal great IPs (specially new ones) developed by 2nd/3rd party studios. And well, to kick the parity launch thing for the indies to get more love from them.

That's one of the very reasons why Sony needs to stay in the gaming industry. Everyone who's thinking, "LOL, Sony's going bankrupt!", etc. (which isn't even the case) aren't looking at the big picture. To tell the truth, Microsoft...aren't exactly very committed towards gaming like Nintendo & Sony are.

They're always too reliant on 3rd party games & moneyhatting exclusives, exclusive DLC's, etc., & they never have any long-term commitment towards 1st/2nd party games. They just bring out exclusives for the first few years, then they rely on 3rd party games to do the rest of the work while only bringing out their biggest IP's.

 

[staticneuron]

They also purchased Sucker Punch, and a lot of Sony studios did grow a low and now have 2 or 3 internal teams. In addition to this, they also had 2nd/3rd party studios like Quantic Dream, ThatGameCompany, Housemarque, Ninja Theory, Queasy Games, Zingagi, Tarsier, Double 11 or Novarama working on Sony exclusive IPs.

To do it gave them a lot of exclusive games, both new and existing internal IPs that never won't move anywhere as did the old 3rd party exclusives from the past, where MS has been relying too much.

Now Molyneux, CliffyB and Bungie left, Epic is not interested on more Gears and IPs like Bioshock, Lost Planet, Dead Rising or Mass Effect were ported elsewhere.

Yes, MS has to hire people to create new studios or teams and maybe to purchase some big 3rd party studios to match Sony's great output of exclusives instead of focusing on moneyhatting 3rd party games that sooner or later go multi.

Now they don't have all these people developing exclusive stuff and in the long term would be more profitable for them.

All this exclusive content really did help PS3, like price drops, OS/PSN improvements to match XBL, multis started to don't suck on PS3, new services like PS Plus.

To make a great comeback MS needs to price drop at least $150 to compensate the difference in horsepower that is more visible than last gen in multis (probably dropping Kinect), to match PS Plus/PS Now/Morpheus and to make a great investment in 1st party studios and internal great IPs (specially new ones) developed by 2nd/3rd party studios. And well, to kick the parity launch thing for the indies to get more love from them.

Even though much of what you say isn't false it is still being put as if Sony did something different in comparison to previous generations.

Yes they had more teams, and added studios (while shuttering others) but then again it wasn't all for PS3. They also had many teams working on PSP, PSVita and then PS4 titles. What Sony did, was relatively the same as they did the previous generations except that with the inclusion of the handhelds the PS3 received less first party attention than the PS2 did. Second and third party exclusives also aren't new. And I really shouldn't have to point out the 2nd and 3rd party exclusives on PS2 far outnumbered what was on PS3.

The funny thing about that is that because of the success of the PS2 it really didn't need that many first party titles because there were alot of third party titles that were exclusive because of the publishers choice. From what I have counted on the PS2 there are around 127 first party titles and on the PS3 there were around 60 first party titles. And I am even including camera games and DLC here.

Sony just did what they normally do. They made games, they really didn't change outside of lowering costs and having different marketing teams. I think this is mainly a perception that people created to make it seem like Sony's focus on games changed somehow.

 

[serversurfer]

Even though much of what you say isn't false it is still being put as if Sony did something different in comparison to previous generations.

Yes they had more teams, and added studios (while shuttering others) but then again it wasn't all for PS3. They also had many teams working on PSP, PSVita and then PS4 titles. What Sony did, was relatively the same as they did the previous generations except that with the inclusion of the handhelds the PS3 received less first party attention than the PS2 did. Second and third party exclusives also aren't new. And I really shouldn't have to point out the 2nd and 3rd party exclusives on PS2 far outnumbered what was on PS3.

The funny thing about that is that because of the success of the PS2 it really didn't need that many first party titles because there were alot of third party titles that were exclusive because of the publishers choice. From what I have counted on the PS2 there are around 127 first party titles and on the PS3 there were around 60 first party titles. And I am even including camera games and DLC here.

Sony just did what they normally do. They made games, they really didn't change outside of lowering costs and having different marketing teams. I think this is mainly a perception that people created to make it seem like Sony's focus on games changed somehow.

Exactly. I'm not sure where the notion that Sony's 1st-party development was some sort of panic reaction to letting XB360 get a head start even originated. Sony supported the PS3 just like they have all of their platforms. They'd have done so even if the XBox brand never existed, just like they did with PS1.

 

[NeoROCK]

so, 14-15 million for the fiscal year seem reasonable?

 

[SwiftDeath]

so, 14-15 million for the fiscal year seem reasonable?

Doesn't Sony's fiscal year end like March 31st, 2015?

I would say 16 - 17 million isn't unreasonable at that point

14 - 15 million might be possible by end of December 2014

 

[serversurfer]

so, 14-15 million for the fiscal year seem reasonable?

Between now and March 2015? I'd say so. What did PS2 sell annually at its peak, and when was that?

Edit: heh Wonder what he really meant.

 

[Yaoibot]

so, 14-15 million for the fiscal year seem reasonable?

I said that they would hit 7m by March, which they did - shy 6 days. I think 15m is more than reasonable at this point and with the holiday hype and buying frenzy. They'll have Destiny, the Order, DC, and a bunch of lesser AA games that will all keep the momentum going.

Edit: I read, and meant 'calendar' year. Fiscal year, possibly. Depends on if they sell 11m between now and Christmas, which would be quite the demand.

 

[Dead Prince]

Doesn't Sony's fiscal year end like March 31st, 2015?

I would say 16 - 17 million isn't unreasonable at that point

14 - 15 million might be possible by end of December 2014

that's if they sell 1 million a month. who knows what could happen between now and then.

 

[serversurfer]

that's if they sell 1 million a month. who knows what could happen between now and then.

Well, if they keep selling 1M/mo and don't increase at all during the holidays, that'd put them at 16M come New Year.

 

[SwiftDeath]

that's if they sell 1 million a month. who knows what could happen between now and then.

Eh holiday months are big for console sales. I fully expect that PS4 sales will slow down from a million a month this year, maybe in April and May, but likely in Summer at the latest as demand is met with supply fully around the world.

I expect both consoles to do big numbers this holiday season though with Batman, Destiny, Halo and Forza for XB1, The Order and something else probably for PS4 among others

 

[Loris146]

Eh holiday months are big for console sales. I fully expect that PS4 sales will slow down from a million a month this year, maybe in April and May, but likely in Summer at the latest as demand is met with supply fully around the world.

I expect both consoles to do big numbers this holiday season though with Batman, Destiny, Halo and Forza for XB1, The Order and something else probably for PS4 among others

Agree. There will be also new Cod , Fifa and Assassin's Creed. This will be a huge holiday.

 

[serversurfer]

Eh holiday months are big for console sales. I fully expect that PS4 sales will slow down from a million a month this year, maybe in April and May, but likely in Summer at the latest as demand is met with supply fully around the world.

I expect both consoles to do big numbers this holiday season though with Batman, Destiny, Halo and Forza for XB1, The Order and something else probably for PS4 among others

Why are you counting those as "for XBone"? I dunno about Batman, but I know Sony have the marketing deal on Destiny. Even if MS got Batman though, having CoD hasn't helped them much, so I don't see why Batman would help much more. Am I missing something here? =/

 

[SwiftDeath]

Agree. There will be also new Cod , Fifa and Assassin's Creed. This will be a huge holiday.

Yes I forgot that Ubisoft was nice enough to do a next-gen only AC for us

Why are you counting those as "for XBone"? I dunno about Batman, but I know Sony have the marketing deal on Destiny. Even if MS got Batman though, having CoD hasn't helped them much, so I don't see why Batman would help much more. Am I missing something here? =/

Hmm I meant Batman and Destiny as boons for both consoles? And then Halo and Forza for XB1, The order and likely a 2nd game for PS4.

I do strongly suspect Destiny will sell much better on PS4 and help its value proposition moreso than the XB1 but Destiny will help sell some XB1's for certain simply to a lesser extent. Batman is similar but with less focus on PS4 due to no co-marketing

 

[serversurfer]

Ah, right on.

 

[EGOMON]

Sony being so damn quite and tight lip is really scary its like they don't even exist i remember during PS3 days leaks were rampant but now we can't even speculate what could be their plans for PS4 this E3

 

[Rolf NB]

Doesn't Sony's fiscal year end like March 31st, 2015?

I would say 16 - 17 million isn't unreasonable at that point

14 - 15 million might be possible by end of December 2014

PS3 managed to get to 15 million in a full fiscal year exactly once, FY 2012, assuming the PS2 was dead enough at that point to be below 1.5M (probably safe). Its MSRP was already down to 249$ at that point.

I think it's a bit of a tall order to expect the PS4 to do the same at 399$ MSRP.

Remember, years, they are always the same. Sales numbers suck in the summer. Even though numbers look great now, hitting a 1.25M average per month over a whole year is difficult.

 

[SwiftDeath]

PS3 managed to get to 15 million in a full fiscal year exactly once, FY 2012, assuming the PS2 was dead enough at that point to be below 1.5M (probably safe). Its MSRP was already down to 249$ at that point.

I think it's a bit of a tall order to expect the PS4 to do the same at 399$ MSRP.

Remember, years, they are always the same. Sales numbers suck in the summer. Even though numbers look great now, hitting a 1.25M average per month over a whole year is difficult.

Hmm i don't expect sales to continue as they are into the summer and expect PS4 sales to stagnate a bit then for certain but end of summer/fall has notable releases on next-gen

Personally my predictions are closer to 13.5 - 14M for PS4 by the end of the year but 15M isn't impossible in my opinion

 

[Occam]

There's so much crazy hyperbole in this thread with people drooling over the idea of microsodt being finished.

Microsodt, that's funny. At least for British people.

 

[KAL2006]

I know I'm gonna sound like a hater, but I am hoping Xbox One fails and doesn't make a comeback. So that multiplatform games will have a much larger community on one console. I hated last gen when some of my friends were playing Street Fighter IV on 360 and some on PS3. If this time around everyone gets the same system it would be great for me personally. Also if it's like the SNES or PS2 generation where most of the 3rd parties make a game for one system, it allows developers to concentrate all their resources on one version taking full advantage if the system. There would he no need for bigger resources for 2 versions of a game.

 

[Biker19]

Even though much of what you say isn't false it is still being put as if Sony did something different in comparison to previous generations.

Yes they had more teams, and added studios (while shuttering others) but then again it wasn't all for PS3. They also had many teams working on PSP, PSVita and then PS4 titles. What Sony did, was relatively the same as they did the previous generations except that with the inclusion of the handhelds the PS3 received less first party attention than the PS2 did. Second and third party exclusives also aren't new. And I really shouldn't have to point out the 2nd and 3rd party exclusives on PS2 far outnumbered what was on PS3.

The funny thing about that is that because of the success of the PS2 it really didn't need that many first party titles because there were alot of third party titles that were exclusive because of the publishers choice. From what I have counted on the PS2 there are around 127 first party titles and on the PS3 there were around 60 first party titles. And I am even including camera games and DLC here.

Sony just did what they normally do. They made games, they really didn't change outside of lowering costs and having different marketing teams. I think this is mainly a perception that people created to make it seem like Sony's focus on games changed somehow.

Exactly. I'm not sure where the notion that Sony's 1st-party development was some sort of panic reaction to letting XB360 get a head start even originated. Sony supported the PS3 just like they have all of their platforms. They'd have done so even if the XBox brand never existed, just like they did with PS1.

These. Saying that Sony never had a load of 1st/2nd party titles on PS1 & PS2 is all a fallacy. With PS3, they just expanded on that part.

 

[Ramrock]

Sony being so damn quite and tight lip is really scary its like they don't even exist i remember during PS3 days leaks were rampant but now we can't even speculate what could be their plans for PS4 this E3

And that's good. I want E3 suprises and official reveals with pics and trailers. Leaks suck!

 

[On Demand]

Sony being so damn quite and tight lip is really scary its like they don't even exist i remember during PS3 days leaks were rampant but now we can't even speculate what could be their plans for PS4 this E3

And now MS is the one with all the leaks. Why do you think that is? Hmmm.

 

[Skeff]

Added Dec & Nov

old - http://i.imgur.com/dMFo1OS.png
old - http://i.imgur.com/pRO0wPj.png

Stick it to the man is April 30th (EU) and May 6th (US) I believe so might want to add that now we have a date.

 

[Ramrock]

Stick it to the man is April 30th (EU) and May 6th (US) I believe so might want to add that now we have a date.

Yeah, keep the list up-to-date, please.
Would be great.

 

[anonymous_abc]

Yeah, keep the list up-to-date, please.
Would be great.

This might not be the best place to keep this excellent list though.
Deserves it's own thread!

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Deserves it's own thread!

lol that didn't exactly go down very well the last time.

 

[Nightengale]

lol that didn't exactly go down very well the last time.

That's because of the thread narrative.

Strictly as an objective list that tracks releases monthly, it would be good.

Eg. First few posts reserved for updates, and no replies allowed in the thread that isn't additions to the chart.

And add WiiU to the chart as well, if possible.

 

[Raist]

According to this Feb 2013 article it reached 8 million in UK

http://www.techradar.com/news/gamin...surpass-nintendo-wiis-uk-sales-record-1131356

I wonder what 360 #3 country is

Probably France. It's right behind the UK, neck and neck with Germany, but 1) the consoles market is bigger in France than in Germany and 2) the 360 was more popular in France as well. It obviously can't be Japan, and other markets are way smaller.

edit:
Some numbers for the 360 in France:
2010: 550k
2011: 530k
2012: 360k

Also found these from different sources:
360 LTD
2010: 2.2M
2011: 2.8M
The difference roughly matches the 2011 number above.
So let's say 3.2M by the end of 2014.

Can't find any specific number for the 360 in 2013, but Wii+PS3+360 sold 820k.
I guess something around 3.5M by now?

 

[Dremark]

Chad Warden where are youuuuu

Sony always wins baby.

 

[anonymous_abc]

That's because of the thread narrative.

Strictly as an objective list that tracks releases monthly, it would be good.

Eg. First few posts reserved for updates, and no replies allowed in the thread that isn't additions to the chart.

And add WiiU to the chart as well, if possible.

sounds good to me. Sadly deadpixel cannot open threads. But it makes sense to give him the edit ability. Can mods open threads for other users?

 

[serversurfer]

Whether deadpixel starts the thread or not, it seems like the easiest/best thing to do would be to have a static URL for the image, and have deadpixel just replace the file it points to as they update the list.

I dunno if you can do something like that with a hosting site like Imgur or whatever though.

 

[Bundy]

Don't know if people are interested..... but:

UK: PlayStation 4 Console £299.99. Yes: PS4 Offer imminent only at GameSeek

Link

 

[SwiftDeath]

May 9th. Probably safe to say PS4 has yet to crack 8 million

Not to suprising I suppose but does indicate a slowdown

 

[kidfresh718]

May 9th. Probably safe to say PS4 has yet to crack 8 million

Not to suprising I suppose but does indicate a slowdown

I think it did.. Sony is prolly saving numbers for e3..

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

I wonder how much Watch Dogs will push hardware sales.

 

[ethomaz]

May 9th. Probably safe to say PS4 has yet to crack 8 million

Not to suprising I suppose but does indicate a slowdown

You know the 7 million was posted in 16th April... so we need to wait... Sony releases the numbers close to NPD because I guess they use the NPD in their internal estimates.

 

[SwiftDeath]

I think it did.. Sony is prolly saving numbers for e3..

I forgot that the 7M sold only came out April 16th so a full month wouldn't be until May 17th or so. Even then you may be right and they may hold off until E3

You know the 7 million was posted in 16th April... so we need to wait... Sony releases the numbers close to NPD because I guess they use the NPD in their internal estimates.

Yeah after I posted I decided to check the dates of the 7M update. Didn't realize it was so much later in the month

 

[ultratruman]

Don't know if people are interested..... but:

UK: PlayStation 4 Console £299.99. Yes: PS4 Offer imminent only at GameSeek



Link

Co-buy, hasn't started yet.

 

[Anos Voldigoad]

Dat PS4 Thirst!

 

[Shining Sunshine]

Updated

old - http://i.imgur.com/gT5kpTb.png

Where's Sportsfriends?

And... the dude got banned ;_; someone take over for him