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Monster Monpiece |OT| Hold the PlayStation® Vita Vertically...

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Daouzin

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Isn't everything but mobile starved for card games?

True, but even mobile only has a few real card games. The bulk of them don't require any strategy, but rather time investment and cash to get the best cards. Also tapping, they require a lot of tapping and the purchasing of 'energy.'
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
True, but even mobile only has a few real card games. The bulk of them don't require any strategy, but rather time investment and cash to get the best cards. Also tapping, they require a lot of tapping and the purchasing of 'energy.'

Just curious, what do people consider the better card games available, in general? Not even restricting it to this gen.
 

Ryuukan

Member
Just curious, what do people consider the better card games available, in general? Not even restricting it to this gen.

Not sure if I'm speaking for everyone here, but most people want fully interactive card games. Not gaccha shit like GREE and other mobile ones where you just dump in money for rare cards and everything is autobattle.

Also, a self-contained game, earning more cards by playing the game, not buying boosters through DLC. Basically, see old yugioh handheld games vs new console ones.
 

galvenize

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Release Dates: 5/27/2014 (NA), 6/4/2014 (EU)

What, I thought that...

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zeopower6

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What, I thought that...

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http://madeforgaming.com/news/197-monster-monpiece-european-release-rescheduled-for-june-4

It looks like it was rescheduled about a week ago.'

The European release was initially scheduled for May 28, but was changed in order to allow the title to be available to fans in Germany, Russia, and Switzerland, where the game was originally going to be unavailable. US release date will be the same, 5/27/2014.

Good for fans in those regions though tbh.
 

Sylver

Banned
It's so sad that amount of censorship western release has suffered, even with that rated Mature on US and +12 on EU.
40 of 350 illustrations censored simply pathetic.
 

Ryuukan

Member
It's so sad that amount of censorship western release has suffered, even with that rated Mature on US and +12 on EU.
40 of 350 illustrations censored simply pathetic.

IFI keeping everyone here off of FBI lists is a good thing, you should be thanking them
 
IFI keeping everyone here off of FBI lists is a good thing, you should be thanking them

More specifically, as I understand it the reasoning was that the uncensored images would have resulted in an AO rating from ESRB and a request to feck off from Sony (since an AO rating is an automatic certification fail for all of the three console manufacturers).
 

Uthred

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More specifically, as I understand it the reasoning was that the uncensored images would have resulted in an AO rating from ESRB and a request to feck off from Sony (since an AO rating is an automatic certification fail for all of the three console manufacturers).

Seems unlikely, isnt AO mainly for explicit sexual content? Which none of the cut material was. Just IFI being over-cautious I'd say. Based on the list it looks like its only 19 or 20 out of 350
 
More specifically, as I understand it the reasoning was that the uncensored images would have resulted in an AO rating from ESRB and a request to feck off from Sony (since an AO rating is an automatic certification fail for all of the three console manufacturers).

It was not only ESRB. As they are a small company releasing a very niche title, they would be able to make only one version, so they considered other rating boards and other specific regional regulations in order to make their decision.

Unfortunately for Australians, not even that was enough.
 

zeopower6

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It's so sad that amount of censorship western release has suffered, even with that rated Mature on US and +12 on EU.
40 of 350 illustrations censored simply pathetic.

The illustrations are kind of still there, just locked in their level 1 or 2 forms. I don't really see an issue with that since the higher levels would have definitely gotten the game an AO rating.
 

Ryuukan

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Seems unlikely, isnt AO mainly for explicit sexual content? Which none of the cut material was. Just IFI being over-cautious I'd say. Based on the list it looks like its only 19 or 20 out of 350

Have you seen the images? You'll feel like you're inside an episode of Law & Order SVU
 

Sylver

Banned
Based on the list it looks like its only 19 or 20 out of 350
They have changed 40.

Idea Factory press note:
Idea Factory International is fully aware of the concerns expressed by fans, so we would like to inform everyone about the censored images in greater detail.

Monster Monpiece is a card battle game, in which players summon various “Monster Girls” onto the game’s battlefields and then fight their opponents. These cards—meaning the “Monster Girls”—are able to be powered up by exposing themselves (taking off their clothes) via the level-up features called First Crush Rub and Extreme Love. We kept the same number of cards in the game as the original Japanese version, but replaced some of the higher level Monster Girl images with the “less exposed” lower level versions of the corresponding Monster Girls due to some intense sexual imagery. The number of censored cards is about 40 out of the approximately 350 card images available in the game. This means that over 300 cards are left untouched from the original images. That said, each card that has had its image removed will still have the same number of levels for the player to increase, but the higher level card images will be the same as the lower level, even though they have leveled up and have become more powerful. We would like to emphasize that the game’s playtime, the game’s system, and the game’s features are all the same as the original Japanese release, and players can level up their Monster Girls to the highest levels as well, again, matching the Japanese release.

This was a very difficult decision since we work very hard to satisfy our fans and want to bring the same content being offered in Japan.However, Western society is not as lenient as that of Japan when sexual images are involved—especially images of humanoids that appear to be younger than a socially acceptable age. The borderline of what is “acceptable” will always be extremely gray and vary from person to person, but as a responsible company working in the U.S., we had to make the difficult decision that we did. We sincerely apologize for those who do not agree with any level of censorship, but we greatly appreciate your understanding with the decision we have made.

About the rating differences between North America (ESRB, Mature) and Europe (PEGI, 12):
The reason for the difference in these ratings is simply the difference in the rating system between ESRB and PEGI. We received a Mature rating for Monster Monpiece from the ESRB with the censored material we submitted.However, for PEGI, and with the same material assets for their review, they rated it 12+ because of the minimal amount of violence shown in the game. We appreciate your understanding with these rating differences.

Idea Factory International, Inc.
- See more at: http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2014/0...orship-complaints/71011/#sthash.zzEU3BrX.dpuf
 

zeopower6

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They have changed 40.

Idea Factory press note:

I really don't see the issue.

That said, each card that has had its image removed will still have the same number of levels for the player to increase, but the higher level card images will be the same as the lower level, even though they have leveled up and have become more powerful.
 

Uthred

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Have you seen the images? You'll feel like you're inside an episode of Law & Order SVU

Yep saw them, I can see why most of them were the ones changed, but it none of them were even softcore porn never mind explicit porn.

They have changed 40.

Idea Factory press note:

It says theyve changed "about" 40, the actual specific list of cards only contains 19 cards, so perhaps some have multiple levels censored as opposed to just their level 4. The IFI president flat out stated that Monster Monpiece was offered to other companies for localisation and was turned down based on the images so it appears it was either this or nothing.
 

Tempy

don't ask me for codes
Totally getting this once it's out in EU.

(Wish it was uncensored, but what can you do except learn Japanese :/)
 

CrovaxPSO

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Dat DLC...

Is any of the non-voice stuff worth getting?

If I remember, the seal stones are for upgrading cards to their highest level. You can earn them via online play I believe. I don't know if the cards in the rare packs are unique to those packs or not. Rub points are used for upgrading cards via the rubbing minigame but you earn plenty of those through normal battles. The battle items are not worth buying.

Edit: I see one item is the Enlightenment Sphere. It does not specify that it's single use, so it might be worth buying for $0.49 for people who don't want to do the minigame (still requires rub points and seal stones if necessary). If it is single use, though, kind of a rip off.

Edit 2: There's an Enlightenment Sphere Pack of 10 so they do seem to be single use.
 

komorebi

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If I remember, the seal stones are for upgrading cards to their highest level. You can earn them via online play I believe. I don't know if the cards in the rare packs are unique to those packs or not. Rub points are used for upgrading cards via the rubbing minigame but you earn plenty of those through normal battles. The battle items are not worth buying.

Thanks. The description for the '3rd Rare Pack' says "A 3-card pack with newly added monster girls. Receive randomly chosen monster girls."

That makes it sound like new cards. Was there any Japanese DLC that added more cards and maybe this is it?
 

Tempy

don't ask me for codes
Vita is pretty damn good for niche and/or otaku-oriented games like this. The more, the merrier I say.
 

CrovaxPSO

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Thanks. The description for the '3rd Rare Pack' says "A 3-card pack with newly added monster girls. Receive randomly chosen monster girls."

That makes it sound like new cards. Was there any Japanese DLC that added more cards and maybe this is it?

I wouldn't be surprised if they added new cards. I have a horrible habit of buying games faster than I can finish ones I already have, so I never actually finished this game when I imported it last year when it came out. I booted it up just to refresh my memory for some things to answer questions, but never bothered to check into DLC stuff.
 

komorebi

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I wouldn't be surprised if they added new cards. I have a horrible habit of buying games faster than I can finish ones I already have, so I never actually finished this game when I imported it last year when it came out. I booted it up just to refresh my memory for some things to answer questions, but never bothered to check into DLC stuff.

Cheers. I'm going to wait on the DLC until there's more concrete info. I don't want to end up buying something I can unlock while playing. But if they're rolling out 50+ pieces of DLC it makes me think they're not even in the base game.
 

baekshi

Banned
Is the DLC available in game if you don't buy it?

srsly wheres the information on dis dlc stuff



Will the micro transaction make the game easier and faster? How easily is it to obtain rare stuff and will I be fine without the dlc completing collection?


I guess I'll wait a until tomorrow.
 

CrovaxPSO

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Did some searching and it seems like the cards you can get from "Pack 1" are available in the post-game normally. That leads me to believe the subsequent packs might be entirely new cards. The + packs contain the same type of card as the non + packs, but they come already upgraded. Similarly for the ++ packs.

This is what I remember from playing the game last year:

You can obtain seal stones in normal gameplay but they are somewhat rare, you can also earn them from online battles. They're probably not worth buying because you still need enough points to upgrade cards, and the game isn't so hard that you need a bunch of top level cards.

Don't buy the rub points, you earn plenty through normal gameplay.

The in-battle items (like the one that says it moves your units forward 1 square) are just a money grab, the game is not difficult.

There are some interesting items like the one that lets you upgrade a card without having to do the rubbing minigame, but at 50 cents a pop, it's not worth it. Unless you really hate the rubbing minigame. Even then, you'd need a lot of those items over the course of the game.
 
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