Mauricio_Magus
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some do, I'm not a big fan of them but Action JRPGs benefit from the powerful hardware.
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Media Create Sales: Week 22, 2014 (May 26 - Jun 01)
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some do, I'm not a big fan of them but Action JRPGs benefit from the powerful hardware.
MikeE21286
Member
That graph makes me estimate we'd get a little north of 1M LTD sales for MK8
Abysmal numbers all around apart from Mario Kart, well done Nintendo EAD team. Without the (tiny) WiiU bump from MK, we have yet another down week for HW in general.
At least the iOS Top Grossing battle in Japan between P&D, Monster Strike and QuizRPG is exciting, unlike the console sales. It is like being on a continuous suicide watch.
Still happy for MK8, my favourite game of the year thus far.
At least the iOS Top Grossing battle in Japan between P&D, Monster Strike and QuizRPG is exciting, unlike the console sales. It is like being on a continuous suicide watch.
Still happy for MK8, my favourite game of the year thus far.
Nice results for MK, above my expectations. The WiiU is a little below what I expected (25k vs 19k). As other people has said, the game may have a bump in the nearest holidays.
They've already shifted them to handhelds.
They've already shifted them to handhelds.
Wait, are those numbers just for Japan or WW? And just iOS? Quiz RPG, from what I'm seeing, is out elsewhere as well.
prag16
Banned
I think holidays 2014 can get it across the 1,000,000 barrier. Should be good.
Zoe
Member
They need to start putting apps on the PS4 already. I've been seeing more and more about Wii U's Joysound app lately, even one of the expats here was asking me about it.
(I told her we could just use my Vita TV)
At least torne is launching next week: http://www.jp.playstation.com/torne/ps4/
(I told her we could just use my Vita TV)
At least torne is launching next week: http://www.jp.playstation.com/torne/ps4/
Wouldn't be the smartest move from a worldwide perspective. People can argue either way whether Final Fantasy has declined or not (personally I think it has, but a well received game may fix that). But by putting shifting it away from consoles, they'll effectively neuter the series in the West.
It's not always about system capabilities. You have to go where the audience is (or will be). Look at some of these cross gen games or early next gen exclusives. By toning down a few things here and there, there's no reason why the can't run effectively on PS3/360 level hardware, but companies still need to make the transition because the audience for their titles shift over
Steve Youngblood
Member
I think there's some confusion here. I'm not doubting that Mario Kart is a strong brand capable of good sales. What I'm questioning is whether -- after 7 previous entries -- does it really need good word of mouth to appeal to the market that it will ultimately sell to? Basically, I'm just stating that I can't see there being a plethroa of people out there going "Eh, I think I'll pass because my time with Mario Kart Wii was ultimately pretty 'meh'. Wait, this one's better you say? Comical Luigi death stare animations!? I'm in!"
Only Dragon Quest and that still fled back to consoles for a MMO. Mainline FF and KH are still avoiding handhelds.
Weren't people predicting it wouldnt go under 25K last week? This is depressing.
Mmmh...this deserves some analysis later, then, with graphs. Thanks!
test_account
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I think he just means that there isnt really that many people who wont buy Mario Kart 8 because they arent convinced that its better than Mario Kart Wii. Generally speaking, people who liked Mario Kart Wii will probably like Mario Kart 8 as well, and that should be enough for most of them to simply be told that there is a new Mario Kart game out now. It probably doesnt hurt if the general feedback/word to mouth on Mario Kart 8 is better than Mario Kart Wii though.
EDIT: He already replied to it =)
ab.aeterno
Member
You can't call a system's sales performance disastrous this soon, you have to wait until at least it's second Christmas.
Is what I hard about the WiiU all last year in sales threads, ironically. I don't actually think that, mind, call it however you see it.
You really expected a single game to cause the consoles sales to increase 9 times over?
Your expectations were slightly misplaced.
wii u did about as well as i expected (original prediction was 15k-18k, but i upped it to 20k a few hours ago). game did about 50% better than i expected (220k prediction). legs will be the real story here, and i won't be surprised if/when mk8 gets a bundle at the end of the year to coincide with smash bros.'s release.
there just really aren't a whole lot of people buying hardware in japan anymore though. man. trying to guess final sales for each platfrom: 3ds at 17.5-18m ; wii u at 2.5-3m ; psv 4-4.5m. ps4 is a real wild card because nothing's come out for it yet that would drive adoption. it probably won't track too far ahead of the vita or wii u though. 5m may be its upper limit. i admit that's based on a very small window of time to gauge an estimate.
for the rest of the world, 935,000 mario kart 8s were sold in that first weekend. i wonder what the split is. i'm guessing it will heavily favor the us. maybe somewhere around 480-500k? that would mean sales are us > eu > jp, which reverses the last two for the way the wii u has been going.
there just really aren't a whole lot of people buying hardware in japan anymore though. man. trying to guess final sales for each platfrom: 3ds at 17.5-18m ; wii u at 2.5-3m ; psv 4-4.5m. ps4 is a real wild card because nothing's come out for it yet that would drive adoption. it probably won't track too far ahead of the vita or wii u though. 5m may be its upper limit. i admit that's based on a very small window of time to gauge an estimate.
for the rest of the world, 935,000 mario kart 8s were sold in that first weekend. i wonder what the split is. i'm guessing it will heavily favor the us. maybe somewhere around 480-500k? that would mean sales are us > eu > jp, which reverses the last two for the way the wii u has been going.
I think that's reasonable. NSMBU is over a million and we still have a number of years left in this cycle.
Does anyone have a recent LTD for SM3DW?
A little of both lol
Also, only download cards are included in the numbers we're seeing and not normal eShop sales, right? Presumably the actual launch numbers are some percentage higher than this.
567,276 last week according to famitsu.
lol yeah, might be a bit premature but past trends have abundandly shown a turnaround would be a miracle in today's market. We'll see when FFXV comes out I guess
Yagami_Sama
Member
Mario Kart 8 sales was great.
Wii U sales was ok. I don't if a bundle with Mario Kart 8 now, would boost the consoles sales more than the game did. I mean 19k is not that excellent,but is
a good number, if you compare with the 7k average.
One impressive thing, at least for me, is that New Super Mario Bros U, sold 10.175 , maybe bundles, and the game total sales are 1.173.701 and Wii U total sales are : 1.764.866.
That attach rate.
I hope the console and Mario Kart 8 keeping on selling like this for quite a long time.
Wii U sales was ok. I don't if a bundle with Mario Kart 8 now, would boost the consoles sales more than the game did. I mean 19k is not that excellent,but is
a good number, if you compare with the 7k average.
One impressive thing, at least for me, is that New Super Mario Bros U, sold 10.175 , maybe bundles, and the game total sales are 1.173.701 and Wii U total sales are : 1.764.866.
That attach rate.
I hope the console and Mario Kart 8 keeping on selling like this for quite a long time.
i'm guessing sales for the wii u will be down to 10k next week. the platform may have a slightly increased baseline for a little while, but i wouldn't be surprised if it's battling the ps4 again in the near future.
The word of mouth is more prone to come from the awesomeness that is the multiplayer aspect of the game. I never had a friend organize 2 Mario Kart partiesfor MK Wii during the same week (let alone organize a single party for this game). It's happening to me this week because the game is that good. Last sunday we were 5, we are 10 this time because we told more friends what they missed. Few games can have this effect on people, so yeah, that kind of word of mouth.
I'm expecting a 4 week bump (2 weeks down, 2 to go) and then back to 6k Club with the other consoles.
Vita looks primed to break the 10k barrier again too.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
I bet MK8 gives the Wii U a steady bump over time, causing the Wii U to continue to be the top selling console in Japan.
Excellent numbers for MK8! Wii U numbers not so great but it could be worse... That Wii U bump should stay for a few weeks and since E3 is next week let's see if it can increase a bit or at least mantains that position while MK8 continues to sell. Hope it can achieve the million mark just like Yokai Watch pretty soon.
at least until xbox one comes out.
345triangle
Member
Ouch. I don't know what I expect though given the Wii U's install base.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
wow, ps4 really needs something to give it traction already. This is pathetic.
Wii U bump was much smaller then I anticipated. Actual game sales for MK8 was pretty good though.
Wii U bump was much smaller then I anticipated. Actual game sales for MK8 was pretty good though.
Yes, just Japan. That said, we could assume a 50/50 split between iOS and Android if you like, though I believe iOS has higher download traffic for things like this.
Source: http://www.serkantoto.com/2014/06/03/colopl-quiz-rpg-2/SerkanToto said:
I should have said top 100 though, where the only COLOPL game is a different title at 73: http://www.appannie.com/apps/ios/app/hoshino-daononyanko/
Quiz RPG seems to be 134 in top downloads right now.
Zoe
Member
But it's just not the same without the cheesy scenery videos!
Hopefully whenever they put out the PS4 app, they'll get rid of the hardware region lock. The Vita version works on US Vitas
If WiiU is dead then so is the PS4
games that will give the ps4 a substantial boost, or should, anyway, won't hit until next year. maybe even late next year. the system will be a ghost until then. but i suspect that once metal gear solid v and ffxv hit, whatever hardcore console market still exists at that point will start buying up ps4s on a regular basis.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
GTA series is the exception to the rule.
Steve Youngblood
Member
hopefully Nintendo understands that times for a typical home console are gone in Japan, next one's gotta be radically inspired by the smartphone reality in terms of price and attractiveness, something different that will make at least part of that market decide to go out and buy that product
Ugh I'm so bitter it's not out in the US.
Just gives you the idea of the volumes in the mobile space. Temple Run just passed 1 BILLION downloads.
That's a whole lotta people. That's worldwide of course, but still. And Japan is far ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to popularity of mobile games.
Spieler Eins
Member
The chalkboard is dead.
hello friend, would you have a moment to talk about mario kart?
it will either need to be that (i think the tablet idea came from the intro to tablets and not where they are now- which is what makes the gamepad particularly outdated), or it will have to be some sort of crazy machine no one sees coming. and the gamepad wasn't really that, at least not the same way the ds and wii were.
metalmonstar
Member
Pretty sad that the Wii U didn't get that much of a bump from Mario Kart. At least Mario Kart did well though.
Youkai watch has been amazing to follow. I wonder how high it can go. Once Youkai Watch 2 comes out, it will likely begin to drop off the charts.
You would think with the 3DS numbers the way they are, Nintendo would release a revision.
Youkai watch has been amazing to follow. I wonder how high it can go. Once Youkai Watch 2 comes out, it will likely begin to drop off the charts.
You would think with the 3DS numbers the way they are, Nintendo would release a revision.
I'll PM you pictures of that classic Mario Kart moments, my friend has a video projector, we play on a huge wall, pretty awesome.
EDIT: picture from our Sunday's MK8 party
Next is tomorrow
I'm a big fan of your humor but I didn't catch this one?