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Mario Kart 8, what no one seems to be discussing.

E3 is next week so I'm waiting to see if they're planning (free) DLC to make up for the lack of content in the retail release before I completely blow my top about the lack of features.
 

dralla

Member
This won't happen, but I think Nintendo should pull a Capcom and release "Ultra Mario Kart 8", with new modes, characters, vehicles, and a proper battle mode
 

New002

Member
I have talked about MK8's weaknesses several times in the official thread. But my biggest complaint is the lack of modes (both singleplayer and multiplayer). There's just not enough to do (especially since Battle Mode fucking sucks), and just having online doesn't mean a whole lot to me. I prefer local multiplayer, but we get bored of doing the same tracks over and over with no other gameplay types.

SART spoiled me with its career mode.

I was actually thinking about this today as I was playing. Wonderful game, but it feels a little light on content and the butchering of battle mode hurts my heart.
 
We talked about this in the thread. The core racing experience is probably the best Mario Kart has ever been.

HOWEVER

Everything surrounding it is pretty lackluster. Communication errors out the ass, barebones feature set, a crummy editor with canned angles that's hard to find all the highlights you want, just a lack of options all together...hell there isn't even in a options menu. And they took a giant shit on Battle Mode and shipped it out.

When it works, it works beautifully and addictively, but the spell can be broken.
 
Settings & Options.

There are none. Want to change controls? Too bad. Don't like the fact that R AND L DOES NOT USE GAS OR BRAKE? Well fuck you too. Musics too loud? dmcfuckyoufuckyou.gif

The online is also incredibly barebones. I've lost hope that they can ever get this right though so the fact that we have mostly lagless matches is a miracle enough.

this right here.

the game is fun as hell but using A for gas instead of of R is like a nightmare and the freaking music volume.

like WTF Nintendo.
 

Revven

Member
Never have really cared about single player for kart racing games, especially Mario Kart. I enjoyed SASRT as much as anyone else but I don't really mind MK8's lack of single player modes.

I *do* mind how battle mode is utter shit and not worth playing, though. That's inexcusable to release it in the state they did.

Its online is what's keeping me hooked.
 
I do agree the game doesn't feel complete tone honest, missing features, missing options, the end credits video which looks awful

I agree the game wasn't finished

But dam the game is fun :) and to be honest I have hyped mario kart 8 and wii u because I want Nintendo back in the game

But as the OP the game does feel like it could have had a little more time just finishing it off

Here is to hoping for a patch and DLC
 
MK7 was in a "barebones" state, too.

So was Mario Tennis for 3DS, Wii Sports Club, and a few other Nintendo games recently.

MK8 does seem a bit rushed to come out on a strict timeline, but it may also be due to a new policy at Nintendo EAD to make things more minimalistic...you know, distilling IPs down to their "essence," or something like that.
 
Well... at least you guys have DLC/patch updates that can rectify the issue.

I mean, statistics and new modes sound like a given if it was rushed.. but I wonder if Nintendo even withheld things for paid DLC.
 
Mario Kart was a never a strong single player game. I guess that's an excuse, but the two major game modes are grand prix and battle, historically. Very strong emphasis on multiplayer.
 

I Wanna Be The Guy

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
People have been ignoring the mindblowingly shitty single player content in Mario Kart for god knows how long. I don't see why you would expect people to stop ignoring it now.

I wish Nintendo would try to provide good single player content for a MK game, but at this point I've accepted the inevitable. They're never even going to try. Just as they are never going to attempt to balance the items or fix the major problems with the series in general. A MK game is less shit when you just see it as party game and not a real racing game. It's just a party game to mess around with friends.
 

Porcile

Member
The thing is, there are games with more robust content, but at the end of the day, I'm going to put far more playtime into Mario Kart 8 than any of those.
 

Exile20

Member
ya, ghost stealing would have been great. totally forgot about that.



ya, and this.


also, Yes I have been in the OT quite a bit. I've brought up a thing or two there and people seem happy to just over look the games faults (right now anyway).
Yet you still made this thread? A yway back to mk8.
 

10k

Banned
1) I'm satisfied with what the game offers and what's included

2) I never cared for stats or mission mode. I three star all cups on all speeds and then move on to multiplayer.
 

Jinfash

needs 2 extra inches
I agree with all the complaints in the OP. Doesn't paint it as a bad game since the core content is great, but what a missed opportunity this was.

Lack of a standard setting menu or a way to easily view play stats is a big bummer. I straight up spent a few minutes looking for one when I first started playing. I'm still in disbelief that a full console release is feeling more barebones than the handheld one.
 

mimho

Member
Trying to beat all the GP with 3 stars in the 150 mode is enough playing for me.... something that miss to me is some kind of rear view mirror on the pad while playing on tv.
 

Jinfash

needs 2 extra inches
Yet you still made this thread? A yway back to mk8.
It's impossible to have a discussion in OT right now when it's 30 reactionary posts per minute to online matches. Having side threads for certain discussions isn't outside the norm.
 

Jezan

Member
What also nobody seems to be discussing is the lack of Ghost Item in latest mario kart. Kan you believe the salt if you could steal somebodies star when in first.
Wow, I forgot about that!

Mario Kart 9 should be full of options, MK8 is fun but only thanks to online, single player is lacking a lot. First place is also boring, we need more items, less bananas and less mushrooms.

EDIT: Wait, are people saying they don't care about more options because they are having fun with the limited content? Is that what Mario Kart fans are like?
 
Could have just had retro battle mode maps from every game, hell 8 maps in total since it is the 8th game, just make a new map

that's pretty much my only complaint, but why have mission mode in DS then no more after that, i liked them

i still think it'll be put into DLC along with race tracks and etc


yeah forgot about no ghost item, loved that, same with fake box
 

Prototype

Member
It's impossible to have a discussion in OT right now when it's 30 reactionary posts per minute to online matches. Having side threads for certain discussions isn't outside the norm.

this.

pretty impossible to get any kind of discussion going when there are a flood of posts after each race saying "DAT LIGHTNING" or "DAT BLUE SHELL" or DAT....dat dat dat, ect.
 
I have to agree single-player options are weak. They should have done what Mario Golf did with its crapload of options to do. They could have done a coin run in some form and maybe a score run.

That is keeping me from giving it more than 8/10. Sega Racing did it better (SP that is).
 
Not to mention battle mode. I personally haven't tried battle mode yet, but I'm afraid to do so. So much negative reaction to it right now.

Nintendo has the power to fix things through updates and dlc's. Let's see what they do.
 

Grizzo

Member
I agree with all of the points in the OP. Add to that the garbage battle mode, and some missing features in the online mode (typing whatever you want in the lobby instead of those stale chat lines, waiting for more players when playing with unknown opponents...) and it feels like have an almost unfinished game.

But oh well, it's still so much fun that I can look pass those things... for now. There better be some DLC (I'm talking about new tracks and characters) at some point down the line or I'll be greatly disappointed.
 

massoluk

Banned
We're having people complaining the kart customization is distracting from the plug-and-play aspect there, so it's a matter of opinion. I rather appreciate if they keep it lean. Battle mode is a shame, however.

Only thing im pissed about is the lack of ability to change my character and vehicle lobby between matches online . For example, if I'm in the GAF lobby and rainbow road comes up, I would have a very different strategy that would require a new vehicle and weight class. Everything else barring the comm errors is great.

Ahh, I just have to disagree here. With how the online stages are picked, it helps reduce the advantage of min/maxing . Otherwise, people will be using the same kind of karts on the same map.
 
I have been rather addicted to the game but I agree with these criticisms. The online is just so much fun (and stable) on its own that I forgive it more than I would most games.

-Battle mode is crap.
-Videos (credit reel and menu) look very poor.
-There is very little reason to sink time into single player play at all once you unlock the characters (because the content isn't there).
-MKTV is far from as feature rich as it should be.

Again, the mechanics and online play are just so entertaining that I find myself not caring as much, but given that Nintendo releases a MK game once a gen a more complete game should have been shipped.

Then again maybe we'll get updates. These once-a-generation key Nintendo console titles really should start getting updates over the years to continue the titles strong sales and even advertise upcoming titles (why no a Zelda themed track a few weeks before the next 3D Zelda?).
People have been ignoring the mindblowingly shitty single player content in Mario Kart for god knows how long. I don't see why you would expect people to stop ignoring it now.

I wish Nintendo would try to provide good single player content for a MK game, but at this point I've accepted the inevitable. They're never even going to try. Just as they are never going to attempt to balance the items or fix the major problems with the series in general. A MK game is less shit when you just see it as party game and not a real racing game. It's just a party game to mess around with friends.
What are you talking about? The items are very balanced indeed. MK8 is the most consistently exciting online experience I've ever played because the game so knowingly tries to keep you from being comfortable or safe.

I guess some might see that as frustrating or poorly designed as MK8 is a game where the best player may not always win but I think it makes for a brilliant game where every race is full of tension and excitement. If that makes it a party game than I wish more games across many generes would follow suit because its so much damn fun (y'know that thing games are usually trying to be).
Wow, I forgot about that!

Mario Kart 9 should be full of options, MK8 is fun but only thanks to online, single player is lacking a lot. First place is also boring, we need more items, less bananas and less mushrooms.

EDIT: Wait, are people saying they don't care about more options because they are having fun with the limited content? Is that what Mario Kart fans are like?
Most are just saying (and this includes me) that the game is incredibly fun despite an obvious lack of single-player content and extra modes.
 

valouris

Member
It's impossible to have a discussion in OT right now when it's 30 reactionary posts per minute to online matches. Having side threads for certain discussions isn't outside the norm.

Agreed, the online races talk should be a different thread, maybe a community one, imho.

As far as the OP's point I kinda agree. For example I found the complete lack of an options menu whatsoever unacceptable, and the UI is indeed cumbersome. Game is awesome and all that, but I definitely see what the OP is talking about.

I can imagine the rush that must be going on inside Nintendo for games right now, and I can accept a few features missing. At least they are of the few devs that still care about making superb quality games. They could have cut corners from other aspects of the game, but in the end I am happy with the end product. I don't want to imagine what western devs and modern gaming trends would do in a similar situation to MK8..
 

Grizzo

Member
Nintendo probably had to rush out a wii u game for spring.

They did the exact same thing with Mario Kart 7 if I remember correctly (i.e. rushing its development so that it could be released during Christmas). I wish they stopped doing that and just released like the ultimate version of Mario Kart, something packed full of content that you could never get tired of.

But like I said, it doesn't really matter for now since the game is still fresh (after all it's only been a week since its release).
 

Exile20

Member
It's impossible to have a discussion in OT right now when it's 30 reactionary posts per minute to online matches. Having side threads for certain discussions isn't outside the norm.
We discussed this already. We all know the faults. Is there anything more to discuss? We are all hoping for dlc.
 

Sendou

Member
We discussed this already. We all know the faults. Is there anything more to discuss? We are all hoping for dlc.

OP has very good points and the OT obviously isn't the right forum to discuss these. For the reasons that were mentioned.

I don't understand this "shut down all criticism" mentality that some people (like you apparently) seem too have.
 

CozMick

Banned
We could discuss the missing features of mk8 until the cows come home but oooooooooh maaaaaaaaan the gameplay is soooooooo daaaaaaaaamn gooooooooood.

Game of the year so far.
 
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