Wax Free Vanilla
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Somebody ask him about Course Maker, 1988 suit but no McLaren MP4/4, motorbikes and Spec II on this Reddit thingy.
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Gran Turismo 6 |OT| Moon Rover The Castle
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Nope. Hideous just like the others. Maybe even moreso.
rear end looks like a hot mess so......
I really like the back - it's the front end I'm not too sure about.
I'm like that with most cars, tbh.
And women.
Betta Lines
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From that shot it looks like it has a wider track at the front, which would be a bit weird...
brotkasten
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Short article on Nissan's VGT car at Goodwood.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/27/5848796/nissan-builds-a-real-life-gran-turismo-concept
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/27/5848796/nissan-builds-a-real-life-gran-turismo-concept
sCHOCOLATE
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Love every inch of it...except the collapsible metal colander rims.
KaidoRacer7
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Oh wow, I thought that was you doing an impression of him being evasive. Didn't realise the AMA was already happening and that that was an actual evasive answer
On a side note, WTF is that site reddit, how are you supposed to read that?
Have the same feelings... this site is a mess
Another thing to note is that better engine sounds only on GT7
So standards are there to stay in GT7 on PS4. How do you guys feel about it?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-06-27-gran-turismo-7-is-in-the-works-standard-cars-set-to-stay?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-06-27-gran-turismo-7-is-in-the-works-standard-cars-set-to-stay?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialoomph
It's tragic.
It's amazing to see so many defending it in the main thread. It's nowhere near a deal breaker, but those who are defending it forfeit the right to complain when reviewers - and indeed probably players - complain about the inconsistency.
I expect a low 70's score on Metacritic, no way any reviewer will give it a pass with DC, Forza and Project Cars being the main competitors all having amazing car models. PD has really lost it with Kaz being a delusional dreamer rather than a capable manager.
thesuperfunk
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If they continue updating them into these 'semi-premium' models we have been seeing then I have zero problem, infact I have zero problem with keeping the standards - I can see it causing PD some grief though!
PD already has double the amount of premium cars compared to pCars and DC combined...
When people say they won't buy Gt7 just because it will have standard cars even though there will be about 500+ premiums, it's absurd. The standard cars don't bother me. If GT7 has the same a.I and sounds then I will be annoyed.
They aren't anywhere near as detailed though.
They already are. It's just a matter of lighting, shaders, and materials at this point instead of the actual 3D models.
lightchris
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They already are. It's just a matter of lighting, shaders, and materials at this point instead of the actual 3D models.
But do we know if all the premium models are available at this detail? Wouldn't suprise me if some of the (early produced) GT5 stuff isn't.
The level of precision weve achieved [in GT5] is actually more suited to the next generation of machines. The detail that goes into a premium model [has] gone beyond the level of the current PlayStation.
http://www.gtplanet.net/gt5s-premium-cars-go-beyond-ps3s-capabilities/
All of the GT5 models were scaled down to work within that engine's limits.
Well, DC, Project Cars and Forza are already pushing it to the next level with engines and other internal components modelled, I doubt even premiums have this kinda detail in them.
lightchris
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I'll still remain sceptical about all premium cars being available in the quality comparable to the pictures above.
My thoughts exactly.
Standard cars on PS4 would look poor, but that's still not really a reason to get rid of them when they aren't taking anything away from the Premium cars, which they will obviously be giving us more of.
Wax Free Vanilla
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The dream is dead Wax.
The dream will never die. Course Maker is coming next month with GPS functionality to follow later this year with December's Spec II launch.
dat Goodwood tarmac
PD can just render the engine if they want to and add it to the existing models. What's your point? The general car body models and interiors are already on par with most of Forza 5, pCars, and Driveclub, and they'll only get better for next-gen.
Just came up with a great idea for standards. PD should include all standard cars, and GT4 tracks up res them (as some are currently), and have a "retro" mode in GT7 where you can play GT4 content (tracks, cars, challenges, races, etc) with GT7 physics and performance. Thoughts?
Came here for the meltdowns... And you guys are actually behaving? Amazing
You should check the gaming discussion GT thread. :lol
It sounds good in theory but people will just ignore the main GT7 game and make far fetch claims like PD is lazy so they made a half finished game and decided to fill the other half with the full GT4 and all of it's contents, which I'm sure would cause a riot.
I just realized that quote wasn't something you just made up and was actually from the eurogamer article. Still, strange they didn't actually quote Kaz on that like the other comments...
Then again, Amar said great thing in July; amazing things in July. I'm so confused.
brotkasten
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My problem with standard cars and PD keeping them around is that there are some real classic cars in the standard car list that aren't available as premium car. Some of these cars really deserve the premium treatment, but as long as they keep the standards around, it's unlikely that these classic or cult cars get updated. Sure, it's nice that some of them are getting touched up, but that still wont include a fully modeled interior or proper upgradable body parts. For example, I'd like to have and race with a decently tuned up 1960s 240Z that feels personal to me, through customization, but without a premium model of that car, it will never happen. There are people who don't care about things like that and they have a right to defend the standard cars, but preaching how it's dumb to remove them and how they don't take away from the premium cars isn't right either.
There were 642 standard cars in GT6 and 851 standards in GT5. 152 cars were semi premium in GT6, let's just include them as standard, thus making a total of 794 standards in GT6. That leaves 57 cars that were upgraded from standards into full premiums. Kaz's plan is to eventually have all of the cars premiumized.
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threa...ear-credits-pp-drive-and-make-columns.295180/
Goldrusher
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GT6 had a couple of premiums that were standards before:
Lamborghini Countach
Renault Alpine
Bentley Speed 8
Bugatti Veyron
Audi R8 LMS
Maybe more. Those are the ones I remember.
I'm still blown away reading the GT7 standard car thread
Here's a radical idea: how about PD just don't put standards in the game in the first place, so then there can't even be a debate about laziness, inconsistency or being half finished...benzy said:It sounds good in theory but people will just ignore the main GT7 game and make far fetch claims like PD is lazy so they made a half finished game and decided to fill the other half with the full GT4 and all of it's contents, which I'm sure would cause a riot.
lightchris
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Here's a radical idea: how about PD just don't put standards in the game in the first place, so then there can't even be a debate about laziness, inconsistency or being half finished...
Good for publicity, bad for players who want the extra content. In the end it might be the best option for them, but it's certainly not the best for people like me.
I did... I wish I had not.
On the other hand, that such passionate discussion flared up shows that people love GT, even if they are in denial about it.
I will not go drool over the Aston Martin VGT again
Yeah, it's called GT6.
Seriously, fuck Standards. I can't believe they're talking about that shit with GT7, too... using PS2 models on PS4 is fucking disgraceful.
They will almost certainly be seriously upgraded visually?
I am in the Standards camp, but I would be disaapponted if there would be no upgrade over their current appearance.
I do not expect fully detailed cockpits and full progressive procedural damage model with separatable panels and such, but I expect significant upgrade.
Paladin CL
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I dont like it, all the Vision GT cars are quite bad looking.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Modders do what Polyphony don't. July will be great
I'm still blown away reading the GT7 standard car thread
Here's a radical idea: how about PD just don't put standards in the game in the first place, so then there can't even be a debate about laziness, inconsistency or being half finished...
If they drop the E46 M3's, it is an unfinished game and should be mocked.
SolidSnakex
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Wax Free Vanilla
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Mercedes:
Prior to buying GT6 I was actually worried about standard cars.
But while i have only bought a few, most seem cleaner, racing against them is totally great really, many cool 90's cars are standards, as well as what ever selection of cool cars that were in gt4 but stayed standard. like the peaugot 406 or Toyota celica 4ws, or the TK ZZII! [ awesome car] I did not enjoy GT5 that much, and i only use DS3. I do have several hours using wheel too though.
Either way I have been enjoying the fuck out of the last update. Physics are 'better', and i say that from doing alot of lapping in the F3 WSR and my highly tuned mx5 on apricot hill. I have rarely spent so long testing an tuning.
That said physics were really good before, but settings were silly.
..The thing about standards too, is they need the reference vehicles, well I am assuming given their current high quality process. Some of those race cars i think do not exist anymore, and for the many old cars that do, they need to source a well maintained one.
But in lieu of that, i wish all the texture maps get a once over and vector trace all the rastered pixely Uglyness with at least sharp smooth lines.
Also premiums are not all to the same quality. I think its obvious to me in cockpit view which are prologue or gt hd and some gt5 models. I have a volvo C30 tuned up, but the dash looks rough. its an 06 or 07
But while i have only bought a few, most seem cleaner, racing against them is totally great really, many cool 90's cars are standards, as well as what ever selection of cool cars that were in gt4 but stayed standard. like the peaugot 406 or Toyota celica 4ws, or the TK ZZII! [ awesome car] I did not enjoy GT5 that much, and i only use DS3. I do have several hours using wheel too though.
Either way I have been enjoying the fuck out of the last update. Physics are 'better', and i say that from doing alot of lapping in the F3 WSR and my highly tuned mx5 on apricot hill. I have rarely spent so long testing an tuning.
That said physics were really good before, but settings were silly.
..The thing about standards too, is they need the reference vehicles, well I am assuming given their current high quality process. Some of those race cars i think do not exist anymore, and for the many old cars that do, they need to source a well maintained one.
But in lieu of that, i wish all the texture maps get a once over and vector trace all the rastered pixely Uglyness with at least sharp smooth lines.
Also premiums are not all to the same quality. I think its obvious to me in cockpit view which are prologue or gt hd and some gt5 models. I have a volvo C30 tuned up, but the dash looks rough. its an 06 or 07
SunhiLegend
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TheAdmiester
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I don't mind standards as long as they're polished up a bit. If every standard was updated to the level of detail of, say, GT6s RUF cars, then I'd be completely fine with it. I don't really care about interior view too much, they should just work on polishing the worst standards before moving to GT7, because they really are atrocious. Then again, it doesn't really matter to me right now because GT7 is looking to be PS4-only.
this one right here, the best
IISANDERII
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Mercedes Sauber and 2 Jaguars I think, a Le Mans and a road car.
edit: remembered another one: Cizeta V16.