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"PC is decimating console, just through price" - Romero
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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Lanrutcon
Member
And once League of Legends comes to console, then the genre will find a new home. Like all of the genres before it. It is only a matter of time.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
You sir have made me laugh out loud for real. Great post LOL!
Last Hearth
Member
I still think it was more intentional in the sense that they could have solved the problem of compatibility if they wanted to but intentionally devoted no resource to it because they didn't want the problem to be solved.
But you're right intentional or not it still makes the entire console industry more anti-consumer than the PC or mobile industries where such things are assumed. The games I bought on my iOS and my PC years ago I can still play, and will always be able to play. The digital games I bought on my PS3 and 360 dies with those consoles. This is probably more than any other reason why I will never buy the PS4 or the Xbone.
As a matter of fact I think I'm going to play some League right now. Just out of spite.
It's okay, I can watch their TLOU movie on my PC. Same shit anyway.
Sentenza
Member
Yeah, I know. So? The *combined* sales of the console versions passed the PC version.
That hardly makes the PC appear as an unpopular, unsuccessful platform.
Beside, that's an irrelevant point, and it doesn't make his post one bit less childish.
Ok, until that day comes, his point is still valid.
That's absolutely true, and why those games have huge audiences. Not everyone want's to play Dota, or LoL however. Some people don't want to play online at all, and for those that don't F2P because sort of a moot point. Granted, there are plenty of SP F2P games.
How much money would I need to spend to play Skyrim (at launch atleast) on a PC? Most consumers won't care to answer that question, and would find it easier to get a console. Console's won't be going anywhere any time soon due to that point.
I'd wager we'd see services like PS Now take over the console space sooner, given a 1:1 experience.
You're stating that a single game, League of Legends, is singly handily destroying consoles because it has more players? You're wrong. Maybe look at the total number of gamers vs. those that play LoL/DOTA and rethink your argument.
fluffydelusions
Member
I think it's named Destiny. It's a bit late, but just you wait.
fluffydelusions
Member
Destiny is a MOBA?
Destiny will be lucky to get 10% of the concurrent players of League of Legends has now, across ALL platforms.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Romero said:
~looks at PSN store~
PS4 = PC confirmed.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
im waiting for dota 2 to come to xbox one personally.
Destiny wont have 2.7 million concurrent players?
Absolutely not. Or at least it won't sustain it, and get it day after day.
Duxxy3
Member
I know it wouldn't completely fit, but I am still amazed that riot at least hasn't made an attempt at moving LoL to consoles.
Sentenza
Member
I would be impressed if it could consistently reach half of that number.
I'm not really moving them - the goalpost is still League of Legends - and for it to match that, it would need to nearly double 2.7m concurrent players and regularly hit that.
That level of success would be unprecedented - because LoL's success is unprecedented and that's free to play. If Destiny could even come close to matching it as a full priced game, it'd be the biggest game the industry had seen.
CoD peaked at high numbers (and still not close to LoL) but didn't sustain numbers close to that high, especially in comparison to LoL.
Dat Dota 2 drug (i know how it feels)
Objectively Bad Opinion
Member
Nah it's killing two, console manufacturers got PC's back so they're taking care of the other 8.
1st Course
Member
No it didn't.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
How many concurrent players does Cod have?
Sentenza
Member
Arguably not, since the news was about 3,3 millions concurrent users that shortly after turned out being actually 3,3 millions of unique daily accesses (and no, it's not the same thing).
But even taking that number at face value, that's precisely my point: I would be impressed to see Destiny surpassing or even just matching CoD at its peak in popularity.
I think you meant Half-Life, and it's not Romero's fault that his game was so good everyone wanted to make one exactly like it.
Duxxy3
Member
Concurrent across all games on all platforms?
edit: the bale gif always gets me
Solid Samus
Banned
You're really delusional aren't you
Crimsonclaw111
Member
However he wants to try and spin his argument I guess.
shackdaddy836
Banned
Jesus Christ...
Abinash117
Member
I wonder if PC gaming is gonna be dominated by mostly F2P games moreso than now in the future. Many games that are coming exclusively to the pc are F2P besides the indie games. Although it does seem that the Ps4 and to the lesser extent the Xbox1 are embracing the F2P market and indie gaming ; I wonder how F2P gaming effects the sales and revenue on consoles
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Shareware model ought to regain some of its popularity. You could argue that demos provide the same try-it-for-yourself function, but they're increasingly uncommon today anyway. Having a well-designed, consistent opening segment of your game that you can have players sample is good game design on the whole, supposing the devs can follow that content up with something just as good. Letting players own their copy of the shareware portion and have options for modding is even better than downloading a mere demo!
Re: Daikatana, I definitely wish Romero set up Ion Storm just so Hall and Spector could get their games out. Romero was too sucked into e-sports at the time, but he could have spared the whole company from wasting money on a half-baked party platter of an FPS. He's learned his lesson at this point.
Re: Daikatana, I definitely wish Romero set up Ion Storm just so Hall and Spector could get their games out. Romero was too sucked into e-sports at the time, but he could have spared the whole company from wasting money on a half-baked party platter of an FPS. He's learned his lesson at this point.
Duxxy3
Member
Fairest would probably be whatever the two most recent games are - usually that's where the CoD community is.
I doubt it hits much over a million online, at least this far outside of launch week.
There is no way this is serious. This is an Andy Kaufman troll post.
That won't happen because Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo don't play nice with each other. There's games on those platforms that share player bases with hardware from the same manufacturer + PC (Phantasy Star Online 2, Monster Hunter Frontier G etc.) but you're probably not going to see PS4+XB1+WU+PC.
He's probably a troll, at least i hope.
fluffydelusions
Member
WoW made over a billion last year in revenue...that isn't so bad
PC gaming isn't really dominated by anything, it's very diversified with plenty of self-sustaining niches. If you want to primarily follow just one genre, like strategy games or even point 'n clicks, it's fairly realistic to do that.
But yes, a new crop of major F2P games are on the way and will probably wind up being pretty influential. Perfect World has scooped up quite a few Western developers including some major names like CliffyB and Robert Bowling.
Sentenza
Member
And all the other things that apparently don't count because of reasons.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Yeah, WoT is a massive massive grind to get access to later tanks
There's lots of payed for only tanks , which are a requirement to play in higher tiers without losing 30-40k gold every game and then having to grind 3-4 t5 games to get the gold back (let alone buy another tank)
Then there is the whole premium pay2win ammo that circumvents the game's main mechanic (armor penetration)
that game is a whole moneypit once you advance to the higher tiers
You can't 'just' buy the subscription and play the game , you need those premium tanks to get the currency
source: me playing well over 1000 matches over a period of 3 years and spending about 300 euros on the monthly premium sub and on premium tanks (like 40 euros for a t54 it was, I believe)
Wot has a bad f2p system