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Destiny: Only one area per planet
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Felix Lighter
Member
This is strange. The more I read about the structure of this game the more disappointed I become. It seems like they've made some of the compromises you'd typically deal with in an MMO but a lot of the benefits of what you'd expect from an MMO are missing as well.
I'm also surprised that lack of content and loot variety are concerns at this point. I assumed with the resources being devoted to Destinay and expectations for the future of the franchise would result in a ton of initial content to hook the userbase. Hopefully, there's a lot of surprises coming with the final release because this was a project I was really anticipating and the biggest driver pushing me towards buying a new console.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
You only preordered for the beta anyway
D1renegade
Member
So much concern and disappointment..
More zones would be nice, but the beta has shown me that I shouldn't care too much... The crucible is where I'll be getting my money's worth.
More zones would be nice, but the beta has shown me that I shouldn't care too much... The crucible is where I'll be getting my money's worth.
darkistheway
Member
You do not want to fuck with this guy!
Doomshroom
Member
Yeah! put the money where your mouth is. More of this please.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
It was the alpha, but the beta really doesnt have much more content, so around 10% is still it.
Shots fired
il Diavolo
Banned
Yes.
That was definitely disappointing. Had they not said that, I would not have expected it, but they did say it, and it is just not the case. Most of the world is just background decoration.
Then I'm not really worried about Destiny skimping on content. If that's just a tenth of the game then there's gotta be more content to justify their original 'the entire solar system is explorable' idea.
Though I'm bummed that Destiny only has an area a planet, the games still super good despite the original plans not going through as they intended.
AgentOtaku
Member
Well, at least I'm getting a white PS4 out of this :/
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Does this mean only 5 crucible maps? I won't let myself believe that.
Ye.
Borderlands 2 offered me a beefy SP experience, and just considering my first run with the Siren.
The amount and variety of content were gargantuan.
How?
Were people expecting to go on a quest to unlock scuba gear and go deep see diving off the Mothyard coast? I don't see how you can call this 'extremely restricting' without making it obvious that you are in this for the jokes.
Maybe we should keep calling it an MMO until Bungie begins to understand what kind of feature set everyone expects from a game with so many MMO elements.
The game's shortcomings shouldn't define its genre.
Good loot games usually bind most valuable items to your character/account when you equip or pick them up and that doesn't prevent them from featuring a trading system.
ComputerBlue
Member
I can't speak for others, but the huge sell of this game for me was exploration. Take that away and it's not so exciting anymore.
Yeah neogaf tends to suffer from beta burn out. By September most of this thread will buy. I'd bet most people complaining but in 50+ hours in the beta actually.
jacksepticeye
Member
You're so cool
So we're limited to one area per planet.
The game may only have 5 or so explorable planets.
The player cap is 20.
There is no way to trade items with other players.
The end game appears to consist primarily of grinding reputation.
The game has a low max player count.
Am I missing anything?
I'm still looking forward to this game because when the combat is on point it does scratch that Halo itch...but none of this is especially reassuring for a game that claims to be an MMO, yet is structured more like PSO without even that game's ability to give items to a friend.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Do we know if there's missions like Skyrim which basically portal you to other locations? All the content? 4 planets might be fine if each is brimming with content.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Racist
Why are people thinking that what we saw of "earth" and old russia is it?
I mean we had a few missions etc that were included in the alpha/beta but whats giving the impression that is all that we will get from that area?
Maybe im wrong but im under the assumption that we only saw the tip of the iceburg when it came to "content" from old russia
I mean we had a few missions etc that were included in the alpha/beta but whats giving the impression that is all that we will get from that area?
Maybe im wrong but im under the assumption that we only saw the tip of the iceburg when it came to "content" from old russia
Where has bungie claimed that this game was an MMO? Give me a link. Because I'm very sure Bungie avoided calling it an MMO.
It's Phantasy Star Online if it were a shooter and that's okay.
Thanks for the heads up, now I can finally sleep in peace tonight.
Doomshroom
Member
Here you go:
Cancelled because I preordered at Gamestop
Damn! i hope Bungi dosent see this, i will be forced to buy two copies
No, I'm just a rustist.
It's certainly not the most exciting area visually, aside from the skybox vistas that are stunning. Having said that, it has a fitting tone which gives you an idea of how close humanity came to extinction.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That's fair. I want t know the games offering before trying to be disappointed.
No. We've already seen 2 earth maps so it's obvious we will have multiple per map or possibly in other locations.
Good. Zero incentive to account hack then.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Activision just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Bungie culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Infinity Ward where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw over a Bungie fan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is that Bungie fans, after hearing about this, are not going to want to purchase Destiny for any system, nor will they purchase any of Activision's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Bungie has alienated an entire market with this move.
Bungie, publicly apologize and add more areas or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Bungie culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Infinity Ward where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw over a Bungie fan, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is that Bungie fans, after hearing about this, are not going to want to purchase Destiny for any system, nor will they purchase any of Activision's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Bungie has alienated an entire market with this move.
Bungie, publicly apologize and add more areas or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Jackbooted
Member
I guess the major thing that bugs me is the number of missions. The OR ones were extremely easy and fast (even on the higher-level setting). The moon mission was essentially 2 ambushes separated by some fast driving. Sensing a bit of a pattern here and it would be a shame if many of the other missions play out the same way. Hack console, bad-ass guitar riff starts playing, bad guys pop out of monster closets/drop from ship, fight for 3-5 minutes, pick up ammo, move to next mission.
Just as an example: Bungie's quote that "you can actually go there" AFAIK was directed at the landscape that you see right at the beginning, where you stand before the wall of Old Russia. In the Beta you can't even go back to that area. Similarly, all comparable landscapes are not reachable. (Either you drown, or you fall to your death.) But that quote made the impression that they would be. The final area is much smaller than that quote made it seem to be. So in the light of that quote, the final result is disappointing.
The Jackdog
Member
I dont think anyone here expected like, 100+ hours.
But we were sold a bill of goods that seemed like they were hinting towards a MASSIVE game.
They told us each planets "campaign" would be as long and as large as Halo: Reach's ENTIRE campaign.
Now we find out its a handful of missions each, on one area. I know some people have sunk TONS of hours into the content already there, and thats so awesome youre that into the game, youll love it come release day.
I dont think im alone in hoping for a lot more content in terms of areas to explore, at least.
But we were sold a bill of goods that seemed like they were hinting towards a MASSIVE game.
They told us each planets "campaign" would be as long and as large as Halo: Reach's ENTIRE campaign.
Now we find out its a handful of missions each, on one area. I know some people have sunk TONS of hours into the content already there, and thats so awesome youre that into the game, youll love it come release day.
I dont think im alone in hoping for a lot more content in terms of areas to explore, at least.
Oh look, here's a link that's much more recent that counters this old ass link
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/technol...-arent-calling-destiny-an-mmo.html/?a=viewall
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/is-destiny-an-mmo-bungie-weighs-in/1100-6416234/
What's the point? You don't get drops that aren't relevant to your class. Loot is instanced, everybody's is seperate. Loot in Phantasy Star Online was shared. Everybody saw the same drops, and if somebody picked up an item that was great for you but useless to them, tough shit, meseta or gtfo.
Trading in a game like Destiny would just ruin the game. So your friend gives you some high level shit, then what? That raid you needed to complete to get the high level shit, it's no longer necessary. Why even buy the game in that case? To look cool in PvP? You spent $60 on something you didn't even want to play. It's so backwards.
"its an mmo" "its not like wow"
link short and unclear kotaku articles from 3 years ago brehs
Speak for yourself.
Mr Moose
Member
Was it known there would be a beta in October 2013?
TouchMyBox
Member
Don't let uncle bobby hear you, if people are willing to pay subs for games that aren't MMOs, gaming will get real expensive real fast.
MMOs are now defined as any game that lets more than 10 people play together, apparently.
super-famicom
Member
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bungies-destiny-a-shared-world-shooter/1100-6404047/
Destiny has MMO elements, but is not an MMO.
Even more recent: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ngies-hyped-shared-world-shooter-9301522.html
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Oh, cool. Thanks for clarifying
The Jackdog
Member
thats my whole thing, its not what we got, its what they told us we were getting.