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Destiny: Only one area per planet
- Thread starter murgo
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Warframe is f2p, full of jank, and made on a fraction of the budget, but the universe and characters are so much more interesting and ambitious and its not held back by the 360 and ps3.
ComputerBlue
Member
Am I deaf or does he never actually say there is only one playable area per planet?
I was enjoying it, but there are games that fill the loot itch much better, and with more content. If you want a Halo like game, with PSO loot qualities this is the game, however between Guild Wars 2, Planetside, SWTOR, WoW, and a host of actual mmo's destiny offers very little. I do agree it has a PSO feel to it, but I'm not convinced that is enough to warrant the level of popularity some were expecting. I dont think people are against the game, I think people are against the initial belief that this game was going to be a "game changer" in terms of how good the game is. As it stands, it is going to be another good game by bungie, but it stops at that, imo.
For his own sake, I hope he doesn't.
mercenar1e
Member
i guess they blew the budget on voice actors.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Overpromising marketing aside, this is my only real complain about Destiny.
Where are the Fallen grunts carrying the scrounged equipment? The Fallen are structured in Houses, where are the banners marking each House? All these Fallen units need logistics, supply chains, why not have a specially defended enemy camp that acts as the area's logistic node, together with a small platform for vehicle landing and take off? Heck, make that a public event, interfering with their logistics chain - if it's failed the enemies get a boost, perhaps a fallen unit with a heavy weapon spawns in each camp.
It's just a bunch of static spawns.
Trickster
Member
Hey if he came in here and said that the premise of the thread is false, and there is actually more than one zone per planet, he'd be hailed as a hero. Kinda don't expect that scenario to happen though
cripterion
Member
Why not? Skyrim already does that albeit it's not an FPS.
if there's no one in your world when you play, destiny feels the same as borderlands, if not worse.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Just stopping to think about this for a moment, I think I probably spent about 4-5 hours in Old Russia before I hit the level cap and experienced most of what it gave (story, explore and fireteam). So that's not entire terrible for a Console FPS.
The Moon area looked to be the same, and it just seemed to keep on going when went off track and explored. So, perhaps it's not THAT much of an issue in terms of game length.
The Moon area looked to be the same, and it just seemed to keep on going when went off track and explored. So, perhaps it's not THAT much of an issue in terms of game length.
You mean like Guild wars 2(not a FPS, but still completely comparable in terms of content)?
There were more. But many of their open areas were just painful to look at, even at the time. Especially because they tried to put a focus on vehicles when no one ever gave a fuck about Borderlands vehicles.
Its also just a bunch of beta too.
nevermind the ships dropping in all kinds of shit throughout the day
the only 'structures' in the beta were hive
The Rain King
Member
Lotta just strolling around and lack of variety in the mission routes/tactics though (for me). During the moon mission I saw what I thought was an alternate route but it was just another dead end. The whole thing feels a lot more linear than I expected. There's even a perk for more damage with a knife kill from behind, but as far as I can tell stealth is not an option.
Ok, I’m going to try this one more time.
All the people making this into an outrage; stop. Just fucking stop. This is not an outrage. It’s not even close to one. You let your expectations go wild based on nothing; Bungie is not to blame. All we have ever seen in any trailer for Destiny was Reef ( Social ), Tower ( Social ), Mars, Venus, Earth ( Old Russia ), Moon and a single small snippet of Mercury ( Crucible ). That’s all. The Alpha reinforced that those were the only areas we’d see ( one area per planet ) due to how the navigation was set up. If you expected anything more than that, I’m sorry, but you yourself are the one to blame, not Bungie. All of these other areas were only present in the concept art from the initial reveal in which they talked about their ambitions for the Destiny franchise. Concept art. Nothing of that was confirmed for the full game ever.
Bungie didn’t ‘take stuff away’ from you, neither did Activision.
People in here claiming that they know what the final game will play like based on the beta also need to step back.
‘But the guns are so boring!’;
Yes, of course, because we were limited to Common and Uncommon gear in the Beta.
‘But Old Russia is so boring!’;
Yes, of course Old Russia gets boring when it’s the only thing you do for 20 hours straight. Everything is boring when you do it for 20 hours straight. You won’t be stuck on Earth in the final game, you’re free to constantly go somewhere else to make it feel fresh.
‘But there’s nothing to do! The endgame sucks!’;
Based off of what? The Beta? We were capped at 8 in the Beta, of course there’s not much to do. You’re supposed to play through the whole story and reach level 20 to reach the endgame, not stop at level 8 and go to Old Russia all the time and playing only Control in the Crucible on just two maps.
‘But I’ve already seen everything on old Russia and that’s 25% of the game!’;
No it fucking isn’t. First of all, you haven’t seen all of Old Russia; There were three areas still blocked off ( Jovian Complex, King’s Watch, Seraphim Vault / Bunker RAS-3 ) and some guarded by lv. ?? enemies ( Grottoes, Steppes basement ). You don’t know how old Russia will change when all of that properly opens up. Second of all, Venus seems to have much more content and a bigger map, and presumably Mars has a larger map too. I’d say that with what we’ve played, current Old Russia is maybe 10% tops.
’But it needs as much content as [ insert MMO here ]!’
No it doesn’t. This isn’t an MMO. This is a FPSRPG with some MO ( notice the missing M? ) elements and should be treated as such. Expect Borderlands-level amounts of content for the initial release ( which they seem to already be passing ), not MMO-levels.
the beta was a small slice from the beginning of the game, not the entire game shrunk down into a smaller package. Destiny has some stuff that needs looking at, some elements that might not work out and I completely understand if this isn’t your kind of game. That’s fine. But from what I can see, the amount of content isn’t going to be a problem. So can we just stop this stupid unreasonable outrage over nothing please? You guys are overreacting in a big way.
All the people making this into an outrage; stop. Just fucking stop. This is not an outrage. It’s not even close to one. You let your expectations go wild based on nothing; Bungie is not to blame. All we have ever seen in any trailer for Destiny was Reef ( Social ), Tower ( Social ), Mars, Venus, Earth ( Old Russia ), Moon and a single small snippet of Mercury ( Crucible ). That’s all. The Alpha reinforced that those were the only areas we’d see ( one area per planet ) due to how the navigation was set up. If you expected anything more than that, I’m sorry, but you yourself are the one to blame, not Bungie. All of these other areas were only present in the concept art from the initial reveal in which they talked about their ambitions for the Destiny franchise. Concept art. Nothing of that was confirmed for the full game ever.
Bungie didn’t ‘take stuff away’ from you, neither did Activision.
People in here claiming that they know what the final game will play like based on the beta also need to step back.
‘But the guns are so boring!’;
Yes, of course, because we were limited to Common and Uncommon gear in the Beta.
‘But Old Russia is so boring!’;
Yes, of course Old Russia gets boring when it’s the only thing you do for 20 hours straight. Everything is boring when you do it for 20 hours straight. You won’t be stuck on Earth in the final game, you’re free to constantly go somewhere else to make it feel fresh.
‘But there’s nothing to do! The endgame sucks!’;
Based off of what? The Beta? We were capped at 8 in the Beta, of course there’s not much to do. You’re supposed to play through the whole story and reach level 20 to reach the endgame, not stop at level 8 and go to Old Russia all the time and playing only Control in the Crucible on just two maps.
‘But I’ve already seen everything on old Russia and that’s 25% of the game!’;
No it fucking isn’t. First of all, you haven’t seen all of Old Russia; There were three areas still blocked off ( Jovian Complex, King’s Watch, Seraphim Vault / Bunker RAS-3 ) and some guarded by lv. ?? enemies ( Grottoes, Steppes basement ). You don’t know how old Russia will change when all of that properly opens up. Second of all, Venus seems to have much more content and a bigger map, and presumably Mars has a larger map too. I’d say that with what we’ve played, current Old Russia is maybe 10% tops.
’But it needs as much content as [ insert MMO here ]!’
No it doesn’t. This isn’t an MMO. This is a FPSRPG with some MO ( notice the missing M? ) elements and should be treated as such. Expect Borderlands-level amounts of content for the initial release ( which they seem to already be passing ), not MMO-levels.
the beta was a small slice from the beginning of the game, not the entire game shrunk down into a smaller package. Destiny has some stuff that needs looking at, some elements that might not work out and I completely understand if this isn’t your kind of game. That’s fine. But from what I can see, the amount of content isn’t going to be a problem. So can we just stop this stupid unreasonable outrage over nothing please? You guys are overreacting in a big way.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Oh in comparison to Destiny, it's a haven of life. I agree. Everything is different for each map, with each one having a flavor. Destiny seems to have repeats of the same enemies everywhere. The wildlife makes a HUGE difference in adding liveliness.
Like I said, I played it to completion five times. I obviously enjoyed it. It's just one of my complaints about open world games that sometimes I feel like I'm running around with nothing to do a bit too much. I was being jokingly hyperbolic for sure though
Guess the rumors about this turned out to be true. I'll still be keeping my order and will def. be waiting to confirm this for myself. I know there were parts of Old Russia that weren't able to be explored by normal means. But, Old Russia is representing the entire Earth?
I mean, I could possibly see one location on other planets, but Earth. The Traveler is protecting the Last City on Earth and the only place on Earth that Guardians need to engage enemies is Old Russia? Oh well, companies gotta DLC I guess lol.
Honestly, after the Beta, my expectations have been normalized at least.
I mean, I could possibly see one location on other planets, but Earth. The Traveler is protecting the Last City on Earth and the only place on Earth that Guardians need to engage enemies is Old Russia? Oh well, companies gotta DLC I guess lol.
Honestly, after the Beta, my expectations have been normalized at least.
So I guess I was punk'd?
Mr. Luchador
Member
Not really, as there were a few caves and underground areas where ?? mobs hung out. So, I'm wondering what lies beyond them (if anything).
Can you point me to this marketing that over promised? I must have missed it since this is exactly the size I expected for this game.
Diablohead
Member
No one knows, there was some high level spots we could not do, the final game might have more objectives, we just don't know and everyone is jumping on their high horse to moan about it.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Well I guess now more than ever, the campaign really needs to deliver a compelling story, if they want the first game to have legs.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
You couldn't interact with the ships besides getting blown by them and all the ships do is respawn enemies. And there's only a few places where that happened, most of the respawns happened by ye olde 90's method of appearing out of thin air or popping out of one of the copypasted small caves.
You would have a point of if you could blow the ships to interrupt the spawn, but that you couldn't.
I can agree with all this. My main complaints about the game still stem from empty feeling land masses with not much going on except static spawns of same enemies over and over with a random event thrown in here and there. But it's not like the Halo games had a plethora of enemy types either.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
They mostly end up back to places that we've been to before. I did it surprisingly without getting killed so I got to go all the way back there.
So it should be like Bioshock Infinite?
MMaRsu
Banned
Ok fine but I can understand why people are very disappointed with only 4 explorable zones.
I don't quite know what Skyrim you played but I didn't see anything close to 150 hours of unique content.
Well except a game play demo where they said see those mountains you can go explore them, and concept art of non-russia earth locations.
I except the other earth locations to be part of the $35 DLC that is already announced.
I don't know why people expected Chicago or Europa to be available at launch. Bungie haven't mentioned them for like a year and in any trailer or recent interviews. Surely some people could have set some realistic expectations.
But hey, if you're disappointed with that fact, that's fine. I won't stop you.
qa_engineer
Member
I definitely see bungie dropping a lot of dlc for this game. The game was most likely chopped up for the purpose of nickel and diming the consumer.
He just says "Yeah, we're calling them destinations". It can be interpreted either as a confirmation to the question or an utterance. Some people have the habit (me included) of starting responses with "yeah". I don't know why.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Oh right
I was hoping they were 'level check/gateway' mobs to discourage and stop you from progressing in explore mode.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
How is that unrealistic?
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Think of it this way. We've already played 1/4+ of the game just from the beta.....
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Two Words made a summary a few pages back.
Are you sure that budget wasn't what was given for the 10 year, 3 title overall plan that was made and not just for this one game?
But what if these zones are much bigger than what we've seen?
Why would more zones automatically mean more content to explore? And why can't the areas we've not seen be varied enough that it won't matter where we are?
If you want to think them telling us we can explore anywhere we can see or talking about areas in concept art that apparently don't really exist isn't misleading, that's your business.
bananafactory
Banned
Very disappointing. Old Russia isn't necessarily bad, but it feels empty and uninteresting.
Honestly the map doesn't even feel that big one you start cruising around. If the full game is just 3 more planets of this then I'm afraid I'm cancelling my pre-order for now. I'll wait for reviews to see if there's enough content to justify a purchase.
Honestly the map doesn't even feel that big one you start cruising around. If the full game is just 3 more planets of this then I'm afraid I'm cancelling my pre-order for now. I'll wait for reviews to see if there's enough content to justify a purchase.
It's just one big planet to me anyway. Gravity is the same everywhere so there's nothing unique about going to other planets. The landscape changes and that's it. It just screams of laziness. Might as well have it all on Earth.
Destiny is becoming a pretty big disappointment.
Destiny is becoming a pretty big disappointment.
But that doesn't fall in line with the biases I've developed over time in my head.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I have no idea what that means.