DidntKnowJack
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That's just it. This game doesn't sound massive at all. In fact, it sounds fairly limited.
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Destiny: Only one area per planet
- Thread starter murgo
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People are so disappointed at recent stuff about Destiny they gonna believe anything even if it's bullshit.
Will wait till Bungie's official confirmation.
The question is if what if it's true. That would be a bit disappointing.
Can't you already go to all these places? I flew through a bunch of "restricted" areas on the sparrow, not much to be seen. Probably opens up when you reach a higher level.
Psychoward
Banned
I'm really unsure about buying day 1 now. We'll see.
Also if this is true, the thing that I don't understand is, the levels that are there aren't even that interesting. Sure the Moon is fine I'm sure that'll turn out alright, but Old Russia is boring and lifeless, there's no friendly NPC interaction, lots of bland corridors and buildings, it's basically the epitome of an RPG/MMO starting zone and if that's the only Earth level we get at launch I'm going to be pretty ticked off.
Also if this is true, the thing that I don't understand is, the levels that are there aren't even that interesting. Sure the Moon is fine I'm sure that'll turn out alright, but Old Russia is boring and lifeless, there's no friendly NPC interaction, lots of bland corridors and buildings, it's basically the epitome of an RPG/MMO starting zone and if that's the only Earth level we get at launch I'm going to be pretty ticked off.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Destiny is Destiny
Destiny is not Borderlands or WoW or Diablo or PSO or any other game that you think or feel it's trying to shoehorn itself into
Yes it borrows elements that feel like the game plays exactly like the games I mentioned before but some really try to force the opinion that it's a carbon copy/knock-off version of said game
The game tries to incorporate different features and molds them to make them stand out on their own merits and if you see these features in other games down the line, it will trigger the opinion of "Hey Destiny did that".
First the weapons
We in the BETA have only got to play with roughly 5% of the armory
Common (White) and Uncommon (Green) versions
Uncommons lets us try to level up our guns and pick and choose the upgrades that fit your play-style
Borderlands trademark of "Bajillion of Guns" is just 8-10 versions of guns of certain types with color swaps and the stats which make it multiply thousand fold
Destiny on the other hand squeezes out all the trash that BL gun generator would create, by offering you guns at tier levels, with a few abilities that you would chase after
Getting a Cydonia Common from a Uncommon has different stats (DUH!), but when you get upgraded into the Uncommon tier, it's not over. Do you want the ability the gun offers or do you chase down another one and hope it fits your play-style
You could have 3 Cydonia Uncommons, the base stats and upgrade stats might all be the same, it's the ability of what the bonus that gun offers might have a long lasting affect
Do you want Cydonia that gives you faster reload after getting a precision kill or the bottom half of the gun clip does more damage or 1 bullet in the chamber does excessive damage or a head-shot reduces your cool-down for your grenade.
Enemies from the Alpha to the Beta have been overhauled
In the Alpha a lot of the enemies felt brain-dead, just waiting to be killed with the occasional one going "Oh Shit a Guardian I should find cover and not die".
In the Beta, if you get near them they all try to scatter and find cover and try to out maneuver you by flanking or lobbing grenades to push you out of cover
If you try to be a pick off the enemies from afar, sooner or later your ammo will deplete and venturing out will be a necessity
If you try to kill a few, move towards their cover and force them to adjust, you can keep killing them and earn ammo to keep the firefight going
The constant respawning is needed, cause when you are in area, it's not only you
There maybe other Guardians who might need them for their bounties/missions (objective)/grinding (getting drops)
The game does feel a little more alive with the constant respawns, if you killed a group and they spawned on 5-7 minutes intervals, the game would be barren as fuck
Rocket Yard where a lot of Guardians dwell due to the Strike mission starting point and Glimmer farming players, if given the 5-7 respawn rate, the game would be a wait-a-thon of enemies to reappear to be killed
Old Russia we as players have experienced in the Beta is just a little morsel we got to play around in
There are areas locked off by high level enemies that wreck you with a few hits to let you know you aren't suppose to be here
Some Guardians go #YOLO and bypass this and see what is on the other side
Some areas are locked off (some Guardian used their magic to venture to these areas already) to keep them secret until retail so you don't feel Old Russia has been played to death by the the time retail hits
The Moon alone revitalized a lot of players hope and turned down the fears of it being a copy/paste job through the different planets (Zones)
You could go do the story and quickly get it over with, but Destiny players who will be playing this for awhile, love the Exploring aspect more than anything
This is what I did, before even triggering the first aspect of the story mission
We don't know how the other planets will shape out to be, if the Earth and Moon so far has shown us that, we really have only seen 15% of the game
Content speaking the BETA to some feel played out
If you played since Alpha of course it would be
This is not a final product, this is not all there is to this game, I do get some of the complaints and understand some of your frustrations, but some of you really are hanging onto a single comment or stuff from years back and holding a grudge for that reason
This game what it tried to set itself up for some has paid it off in spades for others not
The game would be more open if it was only X1 and PS4, but with the large playerbase that the 360/PS3, plans changed and they system requirements the old gen has attached to it has changed the scope of the game
PC players also get the game and they will have access hopefully to mods and other tricks and will really make the game sing on their platform
For me Destiny is a great new way to play a FPS. It offers me PvE (grinding, loot, most likely pattern learning with Strike missions, and Raid bosses), PvP (Changing up the basic format of certain types and shifting them around to make them feel fresh), Co-Op (you and 2 of your buddies can go have fun in many ways) and Exploration (which not a lot of FPS's do).
Before I had roughly 20+ GAFfers on my PSN friends list, now I have over 100+
The social aspect really has made me appreciate how everyday I get invites to join up and go play
That is what Destiny really is, Explore the frontier, absorb the environment your in and be a Legenadry badass while doing it
Destiny is not Borderlands or WoW or Diablo or PSO or any other game that you think or feel it's trying to shoehorn itself into
Yes it borrows elements that feel like the game plays exactly like the games I mentioned before but some really try to force the opinion that it's a carbon copy/knock-off version of said game
The game tries to incorporate different features and molds them to make them stand out on their own merits and if you see these features in other games down the line, it will trigger the opinion of "Hey Destiny did that".
First the weapons
We in the BETA have only got to play with roughly 5% of the armory
Common (White) and Uncommon (Green) versions
Uncommons lets us try to level up our guns and pick and choose the upgrades that fit your play-style
Borderlands trademark of "Bajillion of Guns" is just 8-10 versions of guns of certain types with color swaps and the stats which make it multiply thousand fold
Destiny on the other hand squeezes out all the trash that BL gun generator would create, by offering you guns at tier levels, with a few abilities that you would chase after
Getting a Cydonia Common from a Uncommon has different stats (DUH!), but when you get upgraded into the Uncommon tier, it's not over. Do you want the ability the gun offers or do you chase down another one and hope it fits your play-style
You could have 3 Cydonia Uncommons, the base stats and upgrade stats might all be the same, it's the ability of what the bonus that gun offers might have a long lasting affect
Do you want Cydonia that gives you faster reload after getting a precision kill or the bottom half of the gun clip does more damage or 1 bullet in the chamber does excessive damage or a head-shot reduces your cool-down for your grenade.
Enemies from the Alpha to the Beta have been overhauled
In the Alpha a lot of the enemies felt brain-dead, just waiting to be killed with the occasional one going "Oh Shit a Guardian I should find cover and not die".
In the Beta, if you get near them they all try to scatter and find cover and try to out maneuver you by flanking or lobbing grenades to push you out of cover
If you try to be a pick off the enemies from afar, sooner or later your ammo will deplete and venturing out will be a necessity
If you try to kill a few, move towards their cover and force them to adjust, you can keep killing them and earn ammo to keep the firefight going
The constant respawning is needed, cause when you are in area, it's not only you
There maybe other Guardians who might need them for their bounties/missions (objective)/grinding (getting drops)
The game does feel a little more alive with the constant respawns, if you killed a group and they spawned on 5-7 minutes intervals, the game would be barren as fuck
Rocket Yard where a lot of Guardians dwell due to the Strike mission starting point and Glimmer farming players, if given the 5-7 respawn rate, the game would be a wait-a-thon of enemies to reappear to be killed
Old Russia we as players have experienced in the Beta is just a little morsel we got to play around in
There are areas locked off by high level enemies that wreck you with a few hits to let you know you aren't suppose to be here
Some Guardians go #YOLO and bypass this and see what is on the other side
Some areas are locked off (some Guardian used their magic to venture to these areas already) to keep them secret until retail so you don't feel Old Russia has been played to death by the the time retail hits
The Moon alone revitalized a lot of players hope and turned down the fears of it being a copy/paste job through the different planets (Zones)
You could go do the story and quickly get it over with, but Destiny players who will be playing this for awhile, love the Exploring aspect more than anything
This is what I did, before even triggering the first aspect of the story mission
So for all of you that finished that mission in 5 minutes (which is such a bullshit exaggeration), it took me 90 minutes, 75 minutes was me just exploring the new area, then getting lost on how to get back, going back to orbit, starting the mission again and finishing it in 15 minutesGraveRobberX said:Oh hey look a Wizard on the moon!:
Hellmouth:
Dead Moon Captain: (Palette Swap!)
New Item to Salvage:
New Version:
What is this Chain attached too? or is keeping from unbinding:
Lower level of Chain:
New Area of the Moon Zone: (Damn Straight World's Grave, now I can properly rob here!)
Ogre!: (Got my Revenge, killed like 5 of them to feel at peace from all those ?? Hallowed Ogres)
Shrieker: (Killed this fucker, than the purple orbs start chasing you and explode trying to kill you, Auto Chase/Lock-on Martyrdom =/)
What's behind this Door?:
We don't know how the other planets will shape out to be, if the Earth and Moon so far has shown us that, we really have only seen 15% of the game
Content speaking the BETA to some feel played out
If you played since Alpha of course it would be
This is not a final product, this is not all there is to this game, I do get some of the complaints and understand some of your frustrations, but some of you really are hanging onto a single comment or stuff from years back and holding a grudge for that reason
This game what it tried to set itself up for some has paid it off in spades for others not
The game would be more open if it was only X1 and PS4, but with the large playerbase that the 360/PS3, plans changed and they system requirements the old gen has attached to it has changed the scope of the game
PC players also get the game and they will have access hopefully to mods and other tricks and will really make the game sing on their platform
For me Destiny is a great new way to play a FPS. It offers me PvE (grinding, loot, most likely pattern learning with Strike missions, and Raid bosses), PvP (Changing up the basic format of certain types and shifting them around to make them feel fresh), Co-Op (you and 2 of your buddies can go have fun in many ways) and Exploration (which not a lot of FPS's do).
Before I had roughly 20+ GAFfers on my PSN friends list, now I have over 100+
The social aspect really has made me appreciate how everyday I get invites to join up and go play
That is what Destiny really is, Explore the frontier, absorb the environment your in and be a Legenadry badass while doing it
They are on the bungie.net Destiny Grimoire as places you get cards for visiting.
Seems like confirmation to me.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm waiting for official confirmation from Bungie.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
TBF last time this happened in this sort of game ala Titanfall the majority was real as in the vast majority, just a few things were missing. Don't know if it's definately a data mine as the Titanfall one actually brought out unreleased game assests. But if it is It's likely largely correct with odd bits and pieces missing.
Shit. I have the Limited Pre Ordered. To be honest if there werent so many flaws with the Beta this wouldnt be an issue. However, the static mob spawns, holding down buttons, lack of drops, lack of currency drops, similar enemies, and weird difficulty curves combined with this new information make me want to cancel. I think unless a lot of changes are made to the main game that this will be a bust.
I love Diablo III because it is actually randomly generated and feels new each time. It also has great item dropping systems in place. You dont spend an hour to pick up 3 useless items.
Man why do promising games like this, Disney Infinity, and Titanfall end up so gimped?
If the mechanics were there it wouldnt be a deal breaker, but they aren't even close. I'm so disappointed.
I love Diablo III because it is actually randomly generated and feels new each time. It also has great item dropping systems in place. You dont spend an hour to pick up 3 useless items.
Man why do promising games like this, Disney Infinity, and Titanfall end up so gimped?
If the mechanics were there it wouldnt be a deal breaker, but they aren't even close. I'm so disappointed.
No, there are places that are completely blocked off and can only be gotten into by glitching. This list does not account for why that stuff is there. It doesn't really make any sense.
Vire
Member
No, the only way to get into those areas are by glitching through.
I highly doubt Bungie would create an area like Seraphim's Vault just for shits and giggles with no purpose for the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q60BTY0E25o
Exploratory
Banned
I'm canceling my preorder too. I only pre order if I'm absolutely sure its going to be an amazing game. Now I think it'll be good but not worth a pre order. Pre ordering is completely unnecessary for pretty much all games.
neogaffer1
Banned
I spent 13 hours, can see what people spent so much time on--grinding to unlock the best gear/ships/items you could get. There were people in the Destiny Beta thread who spent hours playing Iron Banner just to get those items that you couldn't even use.
spongebob340
Neo Member
seems pretty legit, the data fits the mined beta data...
considering Bungie added space flight to Halo Reach, I'd say there is a good chance down the line they will add space combat.
Black Republican
Member
i wonder if the game's a huge success Activision will buy Bungie somewhere down the line, even though im sure Bungie would prefer to stay independant at the moment
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
This still sounds awkward. Why would a game like this have so little content? Is there an actual confirmation from Bungie or what?
There appears to be a multiplayer map set on Phobos, but I wouldn't bet on seeing it in any other mode.
IIRC, the contract stated that Bungie own the IP while Activision holds distribution and publishing.
No confirmation from Bungie yet. Why some people are already jumping to conclusions is beyond me.
mercenar1e
Member
if its true Bungie might not say anything about it until after its released.
Murder. She Wrote
Member
I'm not surprised, they have to save content for the dlc and expansions!
Do we know much about Bungie's ownership structure? I remember MS said they were going to retain a minority stake. Are the employees the majority shareholders?
you can ask why didnt MS buy Bungie, talent can leave.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Eh the silence is disquieting. This isn't the sort of thing you allow to stew and misinformation to spread if false. I can't imagine why they'd want to wait Outside of their being some truth. This isn't a rumour they supposedly said it themselves.
Got it. Maybe it has to do with that Playstation exclusive strike mission? Will be interesting to hear if Bungie has anything to say about this.
IXIKelsonIXI
Member
Well I played a hunter and titan, leveled them both to 8, did multiple strike runs to gear them up, played PvP, played missions multiple times with different friend groups.
Probably boils down to a matter of gaming habit. I'm the guy who lost months of his life to WoW, creating new characters, leveling and running the same missions over and over for the fun of getting new gear and experiencing things with friends.
Not everybody has fun replaying content I guess. For me, though, this game is going to be a huge time sink. I'm hooked.
Only complaint was the mission structures were redundant. But I'm excited to see where Bungie takes this trilogy. This is just the first glimpse at where Bungie is taking us.
Trickster
Member
It's not. Not unless the strike will have you go to several different locations across Old Russia, as well as the locked off sections on The Moon
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Well, they haven't denied it. :/
I hope not.
Exactly. This is something you shouldn't allow to spread (if it's false).
EL CUCO
Member
Looks legit to me.
LookAtMeGo
Member
We saw the Mars moon Phobos too. At least in PVP. I wonder if it is in PVE as well.
Edit: I feel like the moon Titan HAS to be in this game as well. It just has to.
Edit: I feel like the moon Titan HAS to be in this game as well. It just has to.
Silence on what? This thread? It's weekend...
Here's the Reddit discussion which the blog was quoting btw.
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2bv20d/spoilers_this_is_what_we_can_reasonably_expect_at/
http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2bv20d/spoilers_this_is_what_we_can_reasonably_expect_at/
Vire
Member
It's Sunday, believe it or not the world doesn't revolve around NeoGAF.
This site, actually: http://destinydb.info/activities
But frankly, I don't expect them to say anything about it until later this week.
Rolodzeo
Member
With all my respect, when you have a new 500M$ IP launching in one month, with the beta period ending and this... "reveal", now... I really hope you have some employees working as hard as they can on PR every day of the week. Seriously, so much money at stake for a big company like Activision to begin upsetting potential consumers and start canceling pre-orders as we're seeing in this very thread.
But that is just my opinion
With all my respect, when you have a new 500M$ IP launching in one month, with the beta period ending and this... "reveal", now... I really hope you have some employees working as hard as they can on PR every day of the week. Seriously, so much money at stake for a big company like Activision to begin upsetting potential consumers and start canceling pre-orders as we're seeing in this very thread.
But that is just my opinion
Didn't Bungie already said that the actual game doesn't cost 500M$?
Maintenance
Member
Still stings, huh?
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
They really haven't been confirming much pf anything though. We pretty much have to figure it out for ourselves.
Its a little scary they are selling expansions without revealing exactly whats in the core game. Maybe that is intentional...
Vire
Member
With all my respect, when you have a new 500M$ IP launching in one month, with the beta period ending and this... "reveal", now... I really hope you have some employees working as hard as they can on PR every day of the week. Seriously, so much money at stake for a big company like Activision to begin upsetting potential consumers and start canceling pre-orders as we're seeing in this very thread.
But that is just my opinion
In the grand scheme of things, this one stupid thread on a message board isn't going to determine if Destiny is a success or not.
At all.
Like not even close. GAF probably makes up less than one percent of all sales on games.
Delusions of grandeur.
These types of questions are so annoying. Like how the hell does someone even answer this?